Viewing c.l.f. via https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.fortran I see lots of spam. There are probably better ways of accessing the forum, but Google Groups does not make you install anything and is convenient. I will make a point of notifying Googleof spam daily, and I hope others do too, so that the venerable comp.lang.fortran is not overrun, as https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.python and https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math.num-analysis have been.
On 2/12/2022 3:45 PM, Beliavsky wrote:
Viewing c.l.f. via https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.fortran I see
lots of spam. There are probably better ways of accessing the forum,
but Google Groups does not make you install anything and is
convenient. I will make a point of notifying Google of spam daily, and
I hope others do too, so that the venerable comp.lang.fortran is not
overrun, as https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.python and
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math.num-analysis have been.
I'm seeing very little spam in Thunderbird (eternal September).
Viewing c.l.f. via https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.fortran I see lots of spam. There are probably better ways of accessing the forum, but Google Groups does not make you install anything and is convenient. I will make a point of notifying Googleof spam daily, and I hope others do too, so that the venerable comp.lang.fortran is not overrun, as https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.python and https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math.num-analysis have been.
On 2/12/2022 1:45 PM, Beliavsky wrote:Google of spam daily, and I hope others do too, so that the venerable comp.lang.fortran is not overrun, as https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.python and https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math.num-analysis have been.
Viewing c.l.f. via https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.fortran I see lots of spam. There are probably better ways of accessing the forum, but Google Groups does not make you install anything and is convenient. I will make a point of notifying
No spam by accessing this newsgroup via the NNTP news server news.individual.net using any NNTP news reader (I use Thunderbird but
many other free alternatives). Accessing newsgroups via
news.individual.net cost about $12/year, but a small price to pay for
not having to deal with the spam. I have used this service for about 10 years and have probably seen 2 or 3 spam messages per year on average.
Viewing c.l.f. via https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.fortran I see lots of spam. There are probably better ways of accessing the forum, but Google Groups does not make you install anything and is convenient. I will make a point of notifying Googleof spam daily, and I hope others do too, so that the venerable comp.lang.fortran is not overrun, as https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.python and https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math.num-analysis have been.
But note that about half a year ago, the clf newgroup was banned by Google altogether, because of the spam that was reported!
On 2/13/22 4:05 AM, Arjen Markus wrote:
But note that about half a year ago, the clf newgroup was banned by Google altogether, because of the spam that was reported!What exactly does it mean that clf was banned by Google? Does that mean
that clf can no longer be read through google, or that it is no longer possible to post through google, or what?
I have noticed that clf discussions have mostly tapered off in the last
few months. Maybe that ban, whatever its consequences, was the reason?
Beliavsky <beli...@aol.com> schrieb:
Few young people use Usenet, and older people die. Also,"Better" is debatable.
Fortran Discourse is now a better forum with more activity and
code formatting.
Unless they have changed their requirement for "welcoming" language,
I am not joining.
Few young people use Usenet, and older people die. Also,
Fortran Discourse is now a better forum with more activity and
code formatting.
On 2/13/22 4:05 AM, Arjen Markus wrote:
But note that about half a year ago, the clf newgroup was banned by Google altogether, because of the spam that was reported!What exactly does it mean that clf was banned by Google? Does that mean
that clf can no longer be read through google, or that it is no longer possible to post through google, or what?
I have noticed that clf discussions have mostly tapered off in the last
few months. Maybe that ban, whatever its consequences, was the reason?
SPAM postings, particularly from new domains, are more an issue of the
NNTP news server than they are for the reader software on your computer.
I'm seeing about one SPAM post per day in clf through forteinc.com,
which is cheap but not free. That's one too many, but it is not so bad
that it overwhelms the actual fortran posts that I do see here, so I am tolerating it so far.
I do admit that I miss the old days in the 1990s, when clf and sci.math.num-analysis groups were both on topic and more active. There
were many cross-posts, as many of the participants were, like me,
typically interested in both areas. As others have mentioned, that
latter group was taken over a decade ago almost entirely by SPAM,
probably never to recover.
$.02 -Ron Shepard
I use Google Groups because I couldn't get other news servers to work; my 2 problems with it are (1) it lets you report an abusive group but I don't know how to report an abusive posting in an otherwise good group, such as spam in c.l.f;
On 2/13/22 4:05 AM, Arjen Markus wrote:
But note that about half a year ago, the clf newgroup was banned by Google altogether, because of the spam that was reported!What exactly does it mean that clf was banned by Google? Does that mean
that clf can no longer be read through google, or that it is no longer possible to post through google, or what?
I have noticed that clf discussions have mostly tapered off in the last
few months. Maybe that ban, whatever its consequences, was the reason?
SPAM postings, particularly from new domains, are more an issue of the
NNTP news server than they are for the reader software on your computer.
I'm seeing about one SPAM post per day in clf through forteinc.com,
which is cheap but not free. That's one too many, but it is not so bad
that it overwhelms the actual fortran posts that I do see here, so I am tolerating it so far.
I do admit that I miss the old days in the 1990s, when clf and sci.math.num-analysis groups were both on topic and more active. There
were many cross-posts, as many of the participants were, like me,
typically interested in both areas. As others have mentioned, that
latter group was taken over a decade ago almost entirely by SPAM,
probably never to recover.
$.02 -Ron Shepard
On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 3:40:38 PM UTC-5, Thomas Koenig wrote:
Beliavsky <beli...@aol.com> schrieb:
Few young people use Usenet, and older people die. Also,"Better" is debatable.
Fortran Discourse is now a better forum with more activity and
code formatting.
Unless they have changed their requirement for "welcoming" language,
I am not joining.
Could you explain your objection a bit?
In the past, when comp.lang.fortran was more active,
there was at least one poster who was often abusive,
On 2/13/22 4:05 AM, Arjen Markus wrote:
But note that about half a year ago, the clf newgroup was banned by Google altogether, because of the spam that was reported!What exactly does it mean that clf was banned by Google? Does that mean
that clf can no longer be read through google, or that it is no longer possible to post through google, or what?
I use Google Groups because I couldn't get other news servers to work;
On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 12:42:35 PM UTC-5, Ron Shepard wrote:that way.
On 2/13/22 4:05 AM, Arjen Markus wrote:
But note that about half a year ago, the clf newgroup was banned by Google altogether, because of the spam that was reported!What exactly does it mean that clf was banned by Google? Does that mean
that clf can no longer be read through google, or that it is no longer
possible to post through google, or what?
I have noticed that clf discussions have mostly tapered off in the last
few months. Maybe that ban, whatever its consequences, was the reason?
Few young people use Usenet, and older people die. Also, Fortran Discourse is now a better forum with more activity and code formatting. Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/fortran/ is pretty active. But there's good stuff here too, and we should keep it
Why on earth would anyone ban a J3 member?
Viewing c.l.f. via https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.fortran I see lots of spam. There are probably better ways of accessing the forum, but Google Groups does not make you install anything and is convenient. I will make a point of notifying Googleof spam daily, and I hope others do too, so that the venerable comp.lang.fortran is not overrun, as https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.python and https://groups.google.com/g/sci.math.num-analysis have been.
Why on earth would anyone ban a J3 member?
Ron Shepard <nospam@nowhere.org> schrieb:
Why on earth would anyone ban a J3 member?
Maybe a bit more explanation...
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Speaking of spam, I developed an iterative method to compute
eigenvectors back in the 1990s. I called it the subspace projected approximate matrix method, which has the acronym SPAM. I thought it was
cute at the time, but in hindsight it has caused me problems over the
years because legitimate emails with that in the title sometimes get
directed automatically into my junk email folder. Spam back then was
not the problem that it has become since.
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