Hi All,
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool.
Hi All,
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool. I am debugging the Cobol
Program (.cvx) and during the Debug process I want to know the value
of particular variable I am using the Data Inspector in tool. But
Value for that variable is not readable format. Do I need to setup any setting in the tool. Please help me if you have any inputs on this.
[posted and emailed]
In article <a8315111-8189-4bf4...@googlegroups.com>,
K B SHIREESH KUMAR <kandur...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool.Please do your own job.
DD
Em sexta-feira, 23 de julho de 2021 ??s 00:21:39 UTC-3,
docd...@panix.com escreveu:
[posted and emailed]
In article <a8315111-8189-4bf4...@googlegroups.com>,
K B SHIREESH KUMAR <kandur...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,Please do your own job.
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool.
Hi docdwarf@panix.com,
Why say that "Please do your own job."?
What do you do in this group anyway?
If you don't want to help people, be silent.
Close your mouth and don't talk nonsense.
What do you do in this world of good?
I don't think it does anything.
What a little person you are.
Have a nice day.
If you don't want to help people, be silent.
Close your mouth and don't talk nonsense.
What do you do in this world of good?
I don't think it does anything.
What a little person you are.
Gilberto Junior <gilbertoj...@gmail.com> writes:
If you don't want to help people, be silent.STFU>FO.
Close your mouth and don't talk nonsense.
What do you do in this world of good?
I don't think it does anything.
What a little person you are.
--
Rich Alderson ne...@alderson.users.panix.com
Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen
Em segunda-feira, 26 de julho de 2021 ??s 19:47:29 UTC-3, Rich Alderson >escreveu:
Gilberto Junior <gilbertoj...@gmail.com> writes:
If you don't want to help people, be silent.STFU>FO.
Close your mouth and don't talk nonsense.
What do you do in this world of good?
I don't think it does anything.
What a little person you are.
--
Rich Alderson ne...@alderson.users.panix.com
Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen
Hi Rich,
STFU>FO. Think that no.
Sorry to say: you have no culture or soul.
Hello K!
Thursday July 22 2021 22:43, K B SHIREESH KUMAR wrote to All:
Hi All,
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool. I am debugging the CobolHave you read the manual ?
Program (.cvx) and during the Debug process I want to know the value
of particular variable I am using the Data Inspector in tool. But
Value for that variable is not readable format. Do I need to setup any setting in the tool. Please help me if you have any inputs on this.
VincentHi Vincent, I read the Manual and tried all possible ways from my side. Thanks for your response.
On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 9:12:11 PM UTC+5:30, Vincent Coen wrote:
Hello K!Hi Vincent, I read the Manual and tried all possible ways from my
Thursday July 22 2021 22:43, K B SHIREESH KUMAR wrote to All:
Hi All,Cobol
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool. I am debugging the
Program (.cvx) and during the Debug process I want to know thevalue
of particular variable I am using the Data Inspector in tool. Butany
Value for that variable is not readable format. Do I need to setup
setting in the tool. Please help me if you have any inputs onthis. Have you read the manual ? Vincent
side. Thanks for your response.
Hi All,Do I need to setup any setting in the tool. Please help me if you have any inputs on this.
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool. I am debugging the Cobol Program (.cvx) and during the Debug process I want to know the value of particular variable I am using the Data Inspector in tool. But Value for that variable is not readable format.
[posted and emailed]
In article <a8315111-8189-4bf4-a6a4-519df353af02n@googlegroups.com>,
K B SHIREESH KUMAR <kandurubalaji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool.
Please do your own job.
DD
Hello K!
Thursday July 22 2021 22:43, K B SHIREESH KUMAR wrote to All:
> Hi All,
> I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool. I am debugging the Cobol
> Program (.cvx) and during the Debug process I want to know the value
> of particular variable I am using the Data Inspector in tool. But
> Value for that variable is not readable format. Do I need to setup any
> setting in the tool. Please help me if you have any inputs on this.
Have you read the manual ?
Vincent
Em sexta-feira, 23 de julho de 2021 às 00:21:39 UTC-3, docd...@panix.com escreveu:
[posted and emailed]
In article <a8315111-8189-4bf4...@googlegroups.com>,
K B SHIREESH KUMAR <kandur...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,Please do your own job.
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool.
DD
Hi docdwarf@panix.com,
Why say that "Please do your own job."?
What do you do in this group anyway?
If you don't want to help people, be silent.
Close your mouth and don't talk nonsense.
What do you do in this world of good?
I don't think it does anything.
What a little person you are.
Have a nice day.
Gilberto Junior.
On 24/07/2021 23:12, Gilberto Junior wrote:
Em sexta-feira, 23 de julho de 2021 às 00:21:39 UTC-3, docd...@panix.com escreveu:
[posted and emailed]
In article <a8315111-8189-4bf4...@googlegroups.com>,
K B SHIREESH KUMAR <kandur...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,Please do your own job.
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool.
DD
Hi docd...@panix.com,
Why say that "Please do your own job."?
What do you do in this group anyway?
If you don't want to help people, be silent.
Close your mouth and don't talk nonsense.
What do you do in this world of good?
I don't think it does anything.
What a little person you are.
Have a nice day.
Gilberto Junior.
Gilberto,
You do not know Doc Dwarf.
He is a kind, intelligent (and highly capable) man who has been a pillar
of support to this forum for decades.
Sadly, the decades of having people come here EXPECTING free help (and
in most cases never even saying "Thank you" when they get it...), and
the cheaters who think they can get their homework done for no effort on their part, all tends to have a negative effect, and the resulting
cynicism can sometimes be ascerbic.
Doc works in the real world at the cutting edge, and has to deal with
bad code produced by enthusiastic amateurs as well as professionals, compounded by managers who use airline magazines as their source of understanding and actually despise people who really know what they're talking about. In this environment, NOTHING is FREE. The Doc quite
rightly charges for his expertise and does not expect it to be given for nothing.
He can be forgiven for carrying some of his work ethic into a less appropriate place.
Don't judge him.
Pete.
Don't judge the Doc.
--
I used to write *COBOL*; now I can do *anything*...
On 23/07/2021 09:43, K B SHIREESH KUMAR wrote:Do I need to setup any setting in the tool. Please help me if you have any inputs on this.
Hi All,
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool. I am debugging the Cobol Program (.cvx) and during the Debug process I want to know the value of particular variable I am using the Data Inspector in tool. But Value for that variable is not readable format.
Please ignore the unhelpful posts here.
At the risk of adding another one, here are some observations:
1. CA Realia COBOL may not be a good choice for modern program
development. I have not used it for over 25 years but it had problems
then and there is nothing to suggest it has improved.
Have you considered using GNU COBOL which is a very good product and free...? (You can also get support for it freely and openly on the Web.)
Never mind, I am assuming you are not able to change the choice of
Language, or COBOL.
(Having tried most versions of PC and Mainframe COBOL, I would recommend either Micro Focus or Fujitsu for workstation use, with Fujitsu having a slight edge if you need to use the MS Component Object Model (COM). GNU COBOL would be a very good choice but it doesn't support OO COBOL or COM.)
2. The documentation for your current Workbench is not freely available
on the Internet and that does not speak well of the product. If a
Company charge to have their documents available, it does not show an
open or encouraging disposition. People who buy the product will get the documents anyway and people who are looking to possibly buy the product won't, if they are charged for information about it...
However, I did find some discussion here in CLC from a very long time
ago, which MIGHT give you some insights and certainly may tell you "who
to call". Try this link:
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.cobol/c/QR3Ho2rl0Bs/m/Mlwqo1qAfEIJ
It would appear that there have been problems debugging source code used with this compiler, ever since it was released.
BOTTOM LINE:
1. If You have any documentation, you should read it carefully. Follow
any examples and take it one step at a time. If you need clarification
of the English, (not your first language?) post here and I'll try to help.
2. If you have no documentation and are doing paid work in CA Realia
COBOL, then talk to the vendor who sold you the compiler, or get the
client to do so. There is nothing wrong in asking for help; I've been a programmer for over 50 years and had help on many occasions. It hasn't
made me any less capable. Just make sure you have done everything you
can, so you do not waste people's time and do not expect people to do
your homework for you if it is a homework assignment.
Good Luck!
Pete.
--
I used to write *COBOL*; now I can do *anything*...
On 24/07/2021 03:41, Vincent Coen wrote:
Hello K!It is a valid suggestion, Vince.
Thursday July 22 2021 22:43, K B SHIREESH KUMAR wrote to All:
> Hi All,
> I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool. I am debugging the
Cobol
> Program (.cvx) and during the Debug process I want to know the
value
> of particular variable I am using the Data Inspector in tool.
But
> Value for that variable is not readable format. Do I need to
setup any
> setting in the tool. Please help me if you have any inputs on
this.
Have you read the manual ?
Vincent
But is it likely that he hasn't?
Let me ask you one question:
Had you been an expert on CA Realia COBOL and had instantly known the solution to his problem, would you have posted the same response?
I reckon (based on past experience here and in personal contact) that
you would have been happy to take a few minutes and help him.
Think about it...
Pete.
Em quarta-feira, 11 de agosto de 2021 às 01:55:41 UTC-3, dash...@enternet.co.nz escreveu:Do I need to setup any setting in the tool. Please help me if you have any inputs on this.
On 23/07/2021 09:43, K B SHIREESH KUMAR wrote:
Hi All,
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool. I am debugging the Cobol Program (.cvx) and during the Debug process I want to know the value of particular variable I am using the Data Inspector in tool. But Value for that variable is not readable format.
Please ignore the unhelpful posts here.
At the risk of adding another one, here are some observations:
1. CA Realia COBOL may not be a good choice for modern program
development. I have not used it for over 25 years but it had problems
then and there is nothing to suggest it has improved.
Have you considered using GNU COBOL which is a very good product and
free...? (You can also get support for it freely and openly on the Web.)
Never mind, I am assuming you are not able to change the choice of
Language, or COBOL.
(Having tried most versions of PC and Mainframe COBOL, I would recommend
either Micro Focus or Fujitsu for workstation use, with Fujitsu having a
slight edge if you need to use the MS Component Object Model (COM). GNU
COBOL would be a very good choice but it doesn't support OO COBOL or COM.) >>
2. The documentation for your current Workbench is not freely available
on the Internet and that does not speak well of the product. If a
Company charge to have their documents available, it does not show an
open or encouraging disposition. People who buy the product will get the
documents anyway and people who are looking to possibly buy the product
won't, if they are charged for information about it...
However, I did find some discussion here in CLC from a very long time
ago, which MIGHT give you some insights and certainly may tell you "who
to call". Try this link:
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.cobol/c/QR3Ho2rl0Bs/m/Mlwqo1qAfEIJ
It would appear that there have been problems debugging source code used
with this compiler, ever since it was released.
BOTTOM LINE:
1. If You have any documentation, you should read it carefully. Follow
any examples and take it one step at a time. If you need clarification
of the English, (not your first language?) post here and I'll try to help. >>
2. If you have no documentation and are doing paid work in CA Realia
COBOL, then talk to the vendor who sold you the compiler, or get the
client to do so. There is nothing wrong in asking for help; I've been a
programmer for over 50 years and had help on many occasions. It hasn't
made me any less capable. Just make sure you have done everything you
can, so you do not waste people's time and do not expect people to do
your homework for you if it is a homework assignment.
Good Luck!
Pete.
--
I used to write *COBOL*; now I can do *anything*...
Hi Pete,
Congratulations!
Perfect explanation with wise words.
You are a gentleman who seeks to help.
Have a nice day.
Thank you.
Gilberto Junior
On 23/07/2021 15:21, docdwarf@panix.com wrote:
[posted and emailed]Has it really come to this, old friend?
In article <a8315111-8189-4bf4-a6a4-519df353af02n@googlegroups.com>,
K B SHIREESH KUMAR <kandurubalaji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
I need a help on CA Realia Workbench tool.
Please do your own job.
Somebody needs help.
Have you never been that person?
docdwarf@panix.com, I'm sorry.
I replied to your email with those words because I felt a lot of
resentment in them.
Forgive me. I hope that one day we can be friends.
You do not know Doc Dwarf.
He can be forgiven for carrying some of his work ethic into a less >appropriate place.
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