On 07/08/2018 06:26 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Nomen Nescio submitted this idea :
Which, by the way, have you tried Opera yet?
I thought Opera was dead.
Or the new, faster Firefox?
NO! As a result of the new Firefox browser no longer running the
old
Addons, I switched to WaterFox.
Still running FF58, and a lot of my favorite extensions don't work on
it, and Facebook videos don't work either. Can I install WaterFox
and copy in my FF profile and have it work? Can I install the older extensions (like tab mix plus, which I miss most of all)?
I ask mainly because I'm tired of spending hours trying to get back
to where I was 5 years ago and failing.
I'm sure there's a reason I can't go back to FF52, which was pretty
much OK...
The Real Bev laid this down on his screen :
On 07/08/2018 06:26 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Nomen Nescio submitted this idea :
Which, by the way, have you tried Opera yet?
I thought Opera was dead.
Or the new, faster Firefox?
NO! As a result of the new Firefox browser no longer running the
old
Addons, I switched to WaterFox.
Still running FF58, and a lot of my favorite extensions don't work on
it, and Facebook videos don't work either. Can I install WaterFox
and copy in my FF profile and have it work? Can I install the older
extensions (like tab mix plus, which I miss most of all)?
I ask mainly because I'm tired of spending hours trying to get back
to where I was 5 years ago and failing.
I'm sure there's a reason I can't go back to FF52, which was pretty
much OK...
Waterfox is a branch of FF, so I think you can.
http://digg.com/2018/garbage-day
Welcome to What We Learned This Week, a digest of the most
curiously important facts from the past few days. This week: The
deadly profession of garbage collection, Google Chrome is
definitely bad now and the rich love to drink expensive raw
sewage.
Chrome Has Finally Become What It Hated Most
It's a familiar trend amongst any form of popular technology:
You either enjoy an early fade into obscurity, or endure mass
popularity for so long you eventually are outed as being
actually bad.
This week, The Verge's Tom Warren details how this regular twist
of fate happened to Google Chrome. You see, at one point,
Internet Explorer 6 was the most popular browser ? if only
because it came with Windows XP. Microsoft's sheer market
dominance, something stupid like 90 percent share of all
browsers, afforded them the ability to ignore building in web
standards. Eventually Firefox, and then quickly Google Chrome,
came onto the scene touting browsers built with common standards
in mind. Devs quickly shifted to no longer catering to Internet
Explorer, and Chrome won out.
Now, Chrome is so ubiquitous that ? intentionally or not ? devs
just optimize their web-based services to work best on Chrome.
Once again, we are faced with a web landscape that works great
on a single browser and less so on others. Which sucks because
Chrome is a massive resource hog.
Which, by the way, have you tried Opera yet? Or the new, faster
Firefox?
Nomen Nescio submitted this idea :
http://digg.com/2018/garbage-day
Welcome to What We Learned This Week, a digest of the most
curiously important facts from the past few days. This week: The
deadly profession of garbage collection, Google Chrome is
definitely bad now and the rich love to drink expensive raw
sewage.
Chrome Has Finally Become What It Hated Most
It's a familiar trend amongst any form of popular technology:
You either enjoy an early fade into obscurity, or endure mass
popularity for so long you eventually are outed as being
actually bad.
This week, The Verge's Tom Warren details how this regular twist
of fate happened to Google Chrome. You see, at one point,
Internet Explorer 6 was the most popular browser — if only
because it came with Windows XP. Microsoft's sheer market
dominance, something stupid like 90 percent share of all
browsers, afforded them the ability to ignore building in web
standards. Eventually Firefox, and then quickly Google Chrome,
came onto the scene touting browsers built with common standards
in mind. Devs quickly shifted to no longer catering to Internet
Explorer, and Chrome won out.
Now, Chrome is so ubiquitous that — intentionally or not — devs
just optimize their web-based services to work best on Chrome.
Once again, we are faced with a web landscape that works great
on a single browser and less so on others. Which sucks because
Chrome is a massive resource hog.
and a massive personal data collector also. I refuse to use it.
Which, by the way, have you tried Opera yet?
I thought Opera was dead.
Or the new, faster Firefox?
NO! As a result of the new Firefox browser no longer running the old
Addons, I switched to WaterFox.
On 07/08/2018 11:47 AM, Anonymous wrote:
The Real Bev laid this down on his screen :
On 07/08/2018 06:26 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Nomen Nescio submitted this idea :
Which, by the way, have you tried Opera yet?
I thought Opera was dead.
Or the new, faster Firefox?
NO! As a result of the new Firefox browser no longer running the
old
Addons, I switched to WaterFox.
Still running FF58, and a lot of my favorite extensions don't work on
it, and Facebook videos don't work either. Can I install WaterFox
and copy in my FF profile and have it work? Can I install the older
extensions (like tab mix plus, which I miss most of all)?
I ask mainly because I'm tired of spending hours trying to get back
to where I was 5 years ago and failing.
I'm sure there's a reason I can't go back to FF52, which was pretty
much OK...
Waterfox is a branch of FF, so I think you can.
Seems to (I got tab mix plus back!), but there are some javascript
issues involving various things. Looks promising, though.
On 07/08/2018 06:26 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Nomen Nescio submitted this idea :
Which, by the way, have you tried Opera yet?
I thought Opera was dead.
Or the new, faster Firefox?
NO! As a result of the new Firefox browser no longer running the old Addons, I switched to WaterFox.
Still running FF58, and a lot of my favorite extensions don't work on
it, and Facebook videos don't work either. Can I install WaterFox and
copy in my FF profile and have it work? Can I install the older
extensions (like tab mix plus, which I miss most of all)?
I ask mainly because I'm tired of spending hours trying to get back to
where I was 5 years ago and failing.
I'm sure there's a reason I can't go back to FF52, which was pretty much OK...
Nomen Nescio submitted this idea :
http://digg.com/2018/garbage-day
Welcome to What We Learned This Week, a digest of the most
curiously important facts from the past few days. This week: The
deadly profession of garbage collection, Google Chrome is
definitely bad now and the rich love to drink expensive raw
sewage.
Chrome Has Finally Become What It Hated Most
It's a familiar trend amongst any form of popular technology:
You either enjoy an early fade into obscurity, or endure mass
popularity for so long you eventually are outed as being
actually bad.
This week, The Verge's Tom Warren details how this regular twist
of fate happened to Google Chrome. You see, at one point,
Internet Explorer 6 was the most popular browser — if only
because it came with Windows XP. Microsoft's sheer market
dominance, something stupid like 90 percent share of all
browsers, afforded them the ability to ignore building in web
standards. Eventually Firefox, and then quickly Google Chrome,
came onto the scene touting browsers built with common standards
in mind. Devs quickly shifted to no longer catering to Internet
Explorer, and Chrome won out.
Now, Chrome is so ubiquitous that — intentionally or not — devs
just optimize their web-based services to work best on Chrome.
Once again, we are faced with a web landscape that works great
on a single browser and less so on others. Which sucks because
Chrome is a massive resource hog.
and a massive personal data collector also. I refuse to use it.
Which, by the way, have you tried Opera yet?
I thought Opera was dead.
Or the new, faster Firefox?
NO! As a result of the new Firefox browser no longer running the old
Addons, I switched to WaterFox.
Anonymous <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote:
Nomen Nescio submitted this idea :
http://digg.com/2018/garbage-day
Welcome to What We Learned This Week, a digest of the most
curiously important facts from the past few days. This week: The
deadly profession of garbage collection, Google Chrome is
definitely bad now and the rich love to drink expensive raw
sewage.
Chrome Has Finally Become What It Hated Most
It's a familiar trend amongst any form of popular technology:
You either enjoy an early fade into obscurity, or endure mass
popularity for so long you eventually are outed as being
actually bad.
This week, The Verge's Tom Warren details how this regular twist
of fate happened to Google Chrome. You see, at one point,
Internet Explorer 6 was the most popular browser — if only
because it came with Windows XP. Microsoft's sheer market
dominance, something stupid like 90 percent share of all
browsers, afforded them the ability to ignore building in web
standards. Eventually Firefox, and then quickly Google Chrome,
came onto the scene touting browsers built with common standards
in mind. Devs quickly shifted to no longer catering to Internet
Explorer, and Chrome won out.
Now, Chrome is so ubiquitous that — intentionally or not — devs
just optimize their web-based services to work best on Chrome.
Once again, we are faced with a web landscape that works great
on a single browser and less so on others. Which sucks because
Chrome is a massive resource hog.
and a massive personal data collector also. I refuse to use it.
Which, by the way, have you tried Opera yet?
I thought Opera was dead.
Opera Mobile is very alive. Their desktop version switched from
Presto engine to Blink a while ago though. There is also Vivaldi
project, founders of which are people who used to work on Opera from
the very beginning.
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)>
Or the new, faster Firefox?
NO! As a result of the new Firefox browser no longer running the
old Addons, I switched to WaterFox.
Opera may be ok, but there are too many excellent old firefox addons
that are indispensable to me. I have a very secure (I hope) system
that uses Waterfox with uMatrix, CookieAutoDelete, HTTPS Everywhere,
Privacy Badger, Ghostery (no longer reliable after its buy out),
AdBlocker Ultimate, uBlock Origin, Block Site, Randon User-Agent. I as
well am running an external pfSense firewall with pfBlockerNG and Snort
on a controller. I run my browser through Privoxy with a big list of rejected sites and all this is tunneled through an SSH Cotse proxy.
The only thing bad about Waterfox is that it is a ram hog like the old Firefox. I have to keep an eye on a ram meter when I have to open
multiple tabs, especially when looking at videos. The worst that
happens is that Waterfox shuts down, but the OS gives a warning ahead
of time.
In alt.comp.google Anonymous <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote:
...
Opera may be ok, but there are too many excellent old firefox addons
that are indispensable to me. I have a very secure (I hope) system
that uses Waterfox with uMatrix, CookieAutoDelete, HTTPS Everywhere,
Privacy Badger, Ghostery (no longer reliable after its buy out),
AdBlocker Ultimate, uBlock Origin, Block Site, Randon User-Agent. I
as well am running an external pfSense firewall with pfBlockerNG
and Snort on a controller. I run my browser through Privoxy with a
big list of rejected sites and all this is tunneled through an SSH
Cotse proxy. The only thing bad about Waterfox is that it is a ram
hog like the old Firefox. I have to keep an eye on a ram meter
when I have to open multiple tabs, especially when looking at
videos. The worst that happens is that Waterfox shuts down, but
the OS gives a warning ahead of time.
Ditto. I still use old SeaMonkey (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3).
However, I noticed many of the installed old addons aren't getting
updates lately. :(
In alt.comp.google Anonymous <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote:
...
Opera may be ok, but there are too many excellent old firefox addons
that are indispensable to me. I have a very secure (I hope) system
that uses Waterfox with uMatrix, CookieAutoDelete, HTTPS Everywhere, Privacy Badger, Ghostery (no longer reliable after its buy out),
AdBlocker Ultimate, uBlock Origin, Block Site, Randon User-Agent. I as well am running an external pfSense firewall with pfBlockerNG and Snort
on a controller. I run my browser through Privoxy with a big list of rejected sites and all this is tunneled through an SSH Cotse proxy.
The only thing bad about Waterfox is that it is a ram hog like the old Firefox. I have to keep an eye on a ram meter when I have to open
multiple tabs, especially when looking at videos. The worst that
happens is that Waterfox shuts down, but the OS gives a warning ahead
of time.
Ditto. I still use old SeaMonkey (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3).
However, I noticed many of the installed old addons aren't getting
updates lately. :(
Neodome Admin wrote on 7/11/2018 :
Anonymous <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote:
Nomen Nescio submitted this idea :
http://digg.com/2018/garbage-day
Welcome to What We Learned This Week, a digest of the most
curiously important facts from the past few days. This week: The
deadly profession of garbage collection, Google Chrome is
definitely bad now and the rich love to drink expensive raw
sewage.
Chrome Has Finally Become What It Hated Most
It's a familiar trend amongst any form of popular technology:
You either enjoy an early fade into obscurity, or endure mass
popularity for so long you eventually are outed as being
actually bad.
This week, The Verge's Tom Warren details how this regular twist
of fate happened to Google Chrome. You see, at one point,
Internet Explorer 6 was the most popular browser — if only
because it came with Windows XP. Microsoft's sheer market
dominance, something stupid like 90 percent share of all
browsers, afforded them the ability to ignore building in web
standards. Eventually Firefox, and then quickly Google Chrome,
came onto the scene touting browsers built with common standards
in mind. Devs quickly shifted to no longer catering to Internet
Explorer, and Chrome won out.
Now, Chrome is so ubiquitous that — intentionally or not — devs
just optimize their web-based services to work best on Chrome.
Once again, we are faced with a web landscape that works great
on a single browser and less so on others. Which sucks because
Chrome is a massive resource hog.
and a massive personal data collector also. I refuse to use it.
Which, by the way, have you tried Opera yet?
I thought Opera was dead.
Opera Mobile is very alive. Their desktop version switched from
Presto engine to Blink a while ago though. There is also Vivaldi
project, founders of which are people who used to work on Opera from
the very beginning.
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)>
Or the new, faster Firefox?
NO! As a result of the new Firefox browser no longer running the
old Addons, I switched to WaterFox.
Opera may be ok, but there are too many excellent old firefox addons
that are indispensable to me. I have a very secure (I hope) system
that uses Waterfox with uMatrix, CookieAutoDelete, HTTPS Everywhere,
Privacy Badger, Ghostery (no longer reliable after its buy out),
AdBlocker Ultimate, uBlock Origin, Block Site, Randon User-Agent. I as
well am running an external pfSense firewall with pfBlockerNG and Snort
on a controller. I run my browser through Privoxy with a big list of rejected sites and all this is tunneled through an SSH Cotse proxy.
The only thing bad about Waterfox is that it is a ram hog like the old Firefox. I have to keep an eye on a ram meter when I have to open
multiple tabs, especially when looking at videos. The worst that
happens is that Waterfox shuts down, but the OS gives a warning ahead
of time.
Anonymous <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote:
Nomen Nescio submitted this idea :
http://digg.com/2018/garbage-day
Welcome to What We Learned This Week, a digest of the most
curiously important facts from the past few days. This week: The
deadly profession of garbage collection, Google Chrome is
definitely bad now and the rich love to drink expensive raw
sewage.
Chrome Has Finally Become What It Hated Most
It's a familiar trend amongst any form of popular technology:
You either enjoy an early fade into obscurity, or endure mass
popularity for so long you eventually are outed as being
actually bad.
This week, The Verge's Tom Warren details how this regular twist
of fate happened to Google Chrome. You see, at one point,
Internet Explorer 6 was the most popular browser — if only
because it came with Windows XP. Microsoft's sheer market
dominance, something stupid like 90 percent share of all
browsers, afforded them the ability to ignore building in web
standards. Eventually Firefox, and then quickly Google Chrome,
came onto the scene touting browsers built with common standards
in mind. Devs quickly shifted to no longer catering to Internet
Explorer, and Chrome won out.
Now, Chrome is so ubiquitous that — intentionally or not — devs
just optimize their web-based services to work best on Chrome.
Once again, we are faced with a web landscape that works great
on a single browser and less so on others. Which sucks because
Chrome is a massive resource hog.
and a massive personal data collector also. I refuse to use it.
Which, by the way, have you tried Opera yet?
I thought Opera was dead.
Opera Mobile is very alive. Their desktop version switched from Presto
engine to Blink a while ago though. There is also Vivaldi project, founders of which are people who used to work on Opera from the very beginning.
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)>
Or the new, faster Firefox?
NO! As a result of the new Firefox browser no longer running the old Addons, I switched to WaterFox.
In article <g8SdnXhU9-ZuzdvGnZ2dnUU7-a2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote:
In alt.comp.google Anonymous <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote:
...
Opera may be ok, but there are too many excellent old firefox addons
that are indispensable to me. I have a very secure (I hope) system
that uses Waterfox with uMatrix, CookieAutoDelete, HTTPS Everywhere, Privacy Badger, Ghostery (no longer reliable after its buy out), AdBlocker Ultimate, uBlock Origin, Block Site, Randon User-Agent. I as well am running an external pfSense firewall with pfBlockerNG and Snort on a controller. I run my browser through Privoxy with a big list of rejected sites and all this is tunneled through an SSH Cotse proxy.
The only thing bad about Waterfox is that it is a ram hog like the old Firefox. I have to keep an eye on a ram meter when I have to open multiple tabs, especially when looking at videos. The worst that
happens is that Waterfox shuts down, but the OS gives a warning ahead
of time.
Ditto. I still use old SeaMonkey (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3). However, I noticed many of the installed old addons aren't getting
updates lately. :(
no point in coding for deprecated products. nobody will pay for
them.
In alt.comp.google Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
In article <g8SdnXhU9-ZuzdvGnZ2dnUU7-a2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote:
In alt.comp.google Anonymous <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote:
...
Opera may be ok, but there are too many excellent old firefox addons that are indispensable to me. I have a very secure (I hope) system that uses Waterfox with uMatrix, CookieAutoDelete, HTTPS Everywhere, Privacy Badger, Ghostery (no longer reliable after its buy out), AdBlocker Ultimate, uBlock Origin, Block Site, Randon User-Agent. I as well am running an external pfSense firewall with pfBlockerNG and Snort on a controller. I run my browser through Privoxy with a big list of rejected sites and all this is tunneled through an SSH Cotse proxy.
The only thing bad about Waterfox is that it is a ram hog like the old Firefox. I have to keep an eye on a ram meter when I have to open multiple tabs, especially when looking at videos. The worst that happens is that Waterfox shuts down, but the OS gives a warning ahead of time.
Ditto. I still use old SeaMonkey (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3). However, I noticed many of the installed old addons aren't getting updates lately. :(
no point in coding for deprecated products. nobody will pay for
them.
People paid for free softwares like web browsers' extensions?
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