• A positive surprise that Gopher is still working

    From Szczezuja.space@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 8 09:53:44 2022
    Interesting link from one blog that I have in my reader. The author
    notes that one company is posting a link to Gopher in its Twitter post.
    The co-founder of the retro hand-held company uses Gopher to communicate information about his new product. So '90s Gopher can be used for modern marketing. ;-)

    https://daverupert.com/2022/05/notes-from-a-gopher-site/

    gopher://stevenf.com:70/0/journal/2022/04/18/first-playdates-shipping.txt

    gopher://stevenf.com:70/0/journal/2022/04/22/panic-is-25.txt

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  • From lunchboxhero@21:1/5 to Szczezuja.space on Sun May 8 13:24:04 2022
    Szczezuja.space <szczezuja@sdf.org> wrote:
    Interesting link from one blog that I have in my reader. The author
    notes that one company is posting a link to Gopher in its Twitter post.
    The co-founder of the retro hand-held company uses Gopher to communicate information about his new product. So '90s Gopher can be used for modern marketing. ;-)

    https://daverupert.com/2022/05/notes-from-a-gopher-site/

    gopher://stevenf.com:70/0/journal/2022/04/18/first-playdates-shipping.txt

    gopher://stevenf.com:70/0/journal/2022/04/22/panic-is-25.txt


    Thanks for sharing, I thought this was very cool to see. I am a relatively
    new user to all things “smol” being born shortly after gopher was released.
    Your links brought a few questions to mind regarding the use of gopher
    (and Usenet, Gemini for that matter) for commercial interests. I liked
    seeing Steven Frank promote what is obviously a labor of love on his
    journal, but would it also be acceptable for his company to have a presence
    on gopher? Say a stripped down version of their http site? From what I’ve read it seems that gopher is anti-commercial, but I’m trying to better understand where the community lands on this.


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  • From Szczezuja.space@21:1/5 to lunchboxhero on Sun May 8 19:45:35 2022
    On 2022-05-08, lunchboxhero <lunchboxhero@sdf.org> wrote:
    From what I’ve
    read it seems that gopher is anti-commercial, but I’m trying to better understand where the community lands on this.

    Yes, I was thinking the same. Small-net is usually considered not to be business-friendly; because there is not much of what you can earn
    (advertising, tracking, etc.). And this is such an interesting novelty.
    To reach a group playing retro with a retro product. And yet today such
    a retro industry is so profitable branch.

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  • From John Goerzen@21:1/5 to lunchboxhero on Wed Jun 15 03:34:27 2022
    On 2022-05-08, lunchboxhero <lunchboxhero@sdf.org> wrote:
    Thanks for sharing, I thought this was very cool to see. I am a relatively new user to all things “smol” being born shortly after gopher was released.
    Your links brought a few questions to mind regarding the use of gopher
    (and Usenet, Gemini for that matter) for commercial interests. I liked seeing Steven Frank promote what is obviously a labor of love on his
    journal, but would it also be acceptable for his company to have a presence on gopher? Say a stripped down version of their http site? From what I’ve read it seems that gopher is anti-commercial, but I’m trying to better understand where the community lands on this.

    Gopher wasn't anti-commercial, and in fact UMN tried to monetize (sell) it, if I
    remember correctly.

    You might read up a bit on the history of NSFNet. The details are a bit foggy to me, but basically the Internet itself was anti-commercial until, I think, the
    early 90s.

    There were Gopher sites for corporations. I remember one or two that were relating to news (TV news particularly).

    I salvaged what I could in 2007. By then, many sites were offline, but you can find some commercial sites in my archive:

    https://archive.org/details/2007-gopher-mirror

    It was effectively possible to download the entirety of Gopherspace in 2007.

    However, I think it would probably be accurate to say that commercial sites were
    much less common on Gopherspace than they would shortly be on the web.

    Others may have better memories of this era.

    - John

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  • From Szczezuja.space@21:1/5 to John Goerzen on Thu Jun 16 08:52:18 2022
    On 2022-06-15, John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote:
    On 2022-05-08, lunchboxhero <lunchboxhero@sdf.org> wrote:

    I salvaged what I could in 2007. By then, many sites were offline,
    but you can find some commercial sites in my archive: https://archive.org/details/2007-gopher-mirror
    It was effectively possible to download the entirety of Gopherspace in
    2007.

    It's also on Gopher, at:
    gopher://mozz.us:70/1/wayback

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