• Trendnet 200 Mbps Powerline AV Issues

    From cameo@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 1 16:42:54 2017
    I've been using the TPL-303E2K Powerline adapters for several years to
    connect my IP surveillance cameras through them to Internet via my
    home's 120V power lines. The setup worked for me better than WiFi but a
    few weeks ago it stopped working. After some experimentation I found out
    that the cams would still work from electric outlets closer to my router
    but that's not where I needed to have them. The best guess I could come
    up is that perhaps my power lines got much "noisier" recently but I
    can't figure what could have caused that because I have not introduced
    any new electric appliances that could account for it.
    I wonder if any of you experienced similar unexplained problems and had
    come up with an explanation, and hopefully a fix for it.

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to Bob F on Fri Jun 2 08:51:40 2017
    On 6/2/2017 8:49 AM, Bob F wrote:
    On 6/1/2017 4:42 PM, cameo wrote:
    I've been using the TPL-303E2K Powerline adapters for several years to
    connect my IP surveillance cameras through them to Internet via my
    home's 120V power lines. The setup worked for me better than WiFi but
    a few weeks ago it stopped working. After some experimentation I found
    out that the cams would still work from electric outlets closer to my
    router but that's not where I needed to have them. The best guess I
    could come up is that perhaps my power lines got much "noisier"
    recently but I can't figure what could have caused that because I have
    not introduced any new electric appliances that could account for it.
    I wonder if any of you experienced similar unexplained problems and
    had come up with an explanation, and hopefully a fix for it.

    It could be like X10 signals. Plug something new into a socket, and
    suddenly the signal on that phase of the power gets sucked down to where
    it rarely works. The something new could be in any house connected to
    the transformer that feeds your house. Check whether the places the
    signal doesn't work are all on one phase of the power.

    I could add - my old Dewalt 18V battery charger kills my X10 signal.

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to cameo on Fri Jun 2 08:49:42 2017
    On 6/1/2017 4:42 PM, cameo wrote:
    I've been using the TPL-303E2K Powerline adapters for several years to connect my IP surveillance cameras through them to Internet via my
    home's 120V power lines. The setup worked for me better than WiFi but a
    few weeks ago it stopped working. After some experimentation I found out
    that the cams would still work from electric outlets closer to my router
    but that's not where I needed to have them. The best guess I could come
    up is that perhaps my power lines got much "noisier" recently but I
    can't figure what could have caused that because I have not introduced
    any new electric appliances that could account for it.
    I wonder if any of you experienced similar unexplained problems and had
    come up with an explanation, and hopefully a fix for it.

    It could be like X10 signals. Plug something new into a socket, and
    suddenly the signal on that phase of the power gets sucked down to where
    it rarely works. The something new could be in any house connected to
    the transformer that feeds your house. Check whether the places the
    signal doesn't work are all on one phase of the power.

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  • From cameo@21:1/5 to Bob F on Fri Jun 2 11:17:08 2017
    On 6/2/2017 8:49 AM, Bob F wrote:
    On 6/1/2017 4:42 PM, cameo wrote:
    I've been using the TPL-303E2K Powerline adapters for several years to
    connect my IP surveillance cameras through them to Internet via my
    home's 120V power lines. The setup worked for me better than WiFi but
    a few weeks ago it stopped working. After some experimentation I found
    out that the cams would still work from electric outlets closer to my
    router but that's not where I needed to have them. The best guess I
    could come up is that perhaps my power lines got much "noisier"
    recently but I can't figure what could have caused that because I have
    not introduced any new electric appliances that could account for it.
    I wonder if any of you experienced similar unexplained problems and
    had come up with an explanation, and hopefully a fix for it.

    It could be like X10 signals. Plug something new into a socket, and
    suddenly the signal on that phase of the power gets sucked down to where
    it rarely works. The something new could be in any house connected to
    the transformer that feeds your house. Check whether the places the
    signal doesn't work are all on one phase of the power.

    Hm. Thanks. Of course I could not do much if the power noise comes from
    a neighbor. I was also wondering if the power company itself puts some
    carrier frequency on its lines as a means to remotely read the meters.

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to cameo on Fri Jun 2 14:17:27 2017
    On 6/2/2017 11:17 AM, cameo wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 8:49 AM, Bob F wrote:
    On 6/1/2017 4:42 PM, cameo wrote:
    I've been using the TPL-303E2K Powerline adapters for several years
    to connect my IP surveillance cameras through them to Internet via my
    home's 120V power lines. The setup worked for me better than WiFi but
    a few weeks ago it stopped working. After some experimentation I
    found out that the cams would still work from electric outlets closer
    to my router but that's not where I needed to have them. The best
    guess I could come up is that perhaps my power lines got much
    "noisier" recently but I can't figure what could have caused that
    because I have not introduced any new electric appliances that could
    account for it.
    I wonder if any of you experienced similar unexplained problems and
    had come up with an explanation, and hopefully a fix for it.

    It could be like X10 signals. Plug something new into a socket, and
    suddenly the signal on that phase of the power gets sucked down to
    where it rarely works. The something new could be in any house
    connected to the transformer that feeds your house. Check whether the
    places the signal doesn't work are all on one phase of the power.

    Hm. Thanks. Of course I could not do much if the power noise comes from
    a neighbor. I was also wondering if the power company itself puts some carrier frequency on its lines as a means to remotely read the meters.



    It isn't necessarily "noise". It could be that something has a filter"
    in it that shorts the frequency of your cameras to ground at that
    device. You could be right about the power company equipment though.
    That one you can ask them about. They might be able to add a filter to
    your meter to keep their signal out of your house.

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  • From cameo@21:1/5 to Bob F on Fri Jun 2 20:16:04 2017
    On 6/2/2017 2:17 PM, Bob F wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 11:17 AM, cameo wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 8:49 AM, Bob F wrote:
    On 6/1/2017 4:42 PM, cameo wrote:
    I've been using the TPL-303E2K Powerline adapters for several years
    to connect my IP surveillance cameras through them to Internet via
    my home's 120V power lines. The setup worked for me better than WiFi
    but a few weeks ago it stopped working. After some experimentation I
    found out that the cams would still work from electric outlets
    closer to my router but that's not where I needed to have them. The
    best guess I could come up is that perhaps my power lines got much
    "noisier" recently but I can't figure what could have caused that
    because I have not introduced any new electric appliances that could
    account for it.
    I wonder if any of you experienced similar unexplained problems and
    had come up with an explanation, and hopefully a fix for it.

    It could be like X10 signals. Plug something new into a socket, and
    suddenly the signal on that phase of the power gets sucked down to
    where it rarely works. The something new could be in any house
    connected to the transformer that feeds your house. Check whether the
    places the signal doesn't work are all on one phase of the power.

    Hm. Thanks. Of course I could not do much if the power noise comes
    from a neighbor. I was also wondering if the power company itself puts
    some carrier frequency on its lines as a means to remotely read the
    meters.



    It isn't necessarily "noise". It could be that something has a filter"
    in it that shorts the frequency of your cameras to ground at that
    device. You could be right about the power company equipment though.
    That one you can ask them about. They might be able to add a filter to
    your meter to keep their signal out of your house.

    Good ideas. Thanks.

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  • From Art Todesco@21:1/5 to cameo on Sat Jun 3 08:13:19 2017
    On 6/2/2017 11:16 PM, cameo wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 2:17 PM, Bob F wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 11:17 AM, cameo wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 8:49 AM, Bob F wrote:
    On 6/1/2017 4:42 PM, cameo wrote:
    I've been using the TPL-303E2K Powerline adapters for several years
    to connect my IP surveillance cameras through them to Internet via
    my home's 120V power lines. The setup worked for me better than
    WiFi but a few weeks ago it stopped working. After some
    experimentation I found out that the cams would still work from
    electric outlets closer to my router but that's not where I needed
    to have them. The best guess I could come up is that perhaps my
    power lines got much "noisier" recently but I can't figure what
    could have caused that because I have not introduced any new
    electric appliances that could account for it.
    I wonder if any of you experienced similar unexplained problems and
    had come up with an explanation, and hopefully a fix for it.

    It could be like X10 signals. Plug something new into a socket, and
    suddenly the signal on that phase of the power gets sucked down to
    where it rarely works. The something new could be in any house
    connected to the transformer that feeds your house. Check whether
    the places the signal doesn't work are all on one phase of the power.

    Hm. Thanks. Of course I could not do much if the power noise comes
    from a neighbor. I was also wondering if the power company itself
    puts some carrier frequency on its lines as a means to remotely read
    the meters.



    It isn't necessarily "noise". It could be that something has a filter"
    in it that shorts the frequency of your cameras to ground at that
    device. You could be right about the power company equipment though.
    That one you can ask them about. They might be able to add a filter to
    your meter to keep their signal out of your house.

    Good ideas. Thanks.
    Here's what happened to me, with x10 signals. I put in 2 new LED mini
    flood bulbs in my range hood. When they were on, all x10 stuff didn't
    work. I returned them and bought different ones ... same results.
    Later, I purchased 2 similar ones (still different mfg) at Lowe's and
    they didn't affect x10 at all. So, the problem could be something as
    simple as changing a light bulb.

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  • From cameo@21:1/5 to Art Todesco on Sat Jun 3 16:48:43 2017
    On 6/3/2017 5:13 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 11:16 PM, cameo wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 2:17 PM, Bob F wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 11:17 AM, cameo wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 8:49 AM, Bob F wrote:
    On 6/1/2017 4:42 PM, cameo wrote:
    I've been using the TPL-303E2K Powerline adapters for several years >>>>>> to connect my IP surveillance cameras through them to Internet via >>>>>> my home's 120V power lines. The setup worked for me better than
    WiFi but a few weeks ago it stopped working. After some
    experimentation I found out that the cams would still work from
    electric outlets closer to my router but that's not where I needed >>>>>> to have them. The best guess I could come up is that perhaps my
    power lines got much "noisier" recently but I can't figure what
    could have caused that because I have not introduced any new
    electric appliances that could account for it.
    I wonder if any of you experienced similar unexplained problems and >>>>>> had come up with an explanation, and hopefully a fix for it.

    It could be like X10 signals. Plug something new into a socket, and
    suddenly the signal on that phase of the power gets sucked down to
    where it rarely works. The something new could be in any house
    connected to the transformer that feeds your house. Check whether
    the places the signal doesn't work are all on one phase of the power. >>>>
    Hm. Thanks. Of course I could not do much if the power noise comes
    from a neighbor. I was also wondering if the power company itself
    puts some carrier frequency on its lines as a means to remotely read
    the meters.



    It isn't necessarily "noise". It could be that something has a filter"
    in it that shorts the frequency of your cameras to ground at that
    device. You could be right about the power company equipment though.
    That one you can ask them about. They might be able to add a filter to
    your meter to keep their signal out of your house.

    Good ideas. Thanks.
    Here's what happened to me, with x10 signals. I put in 2 new LED mini
    flood bulbs in my range hood. When they were on, all x10 stuff didn't
    work. I returned them and bought different ones ... same results.
    Later, I purchased 2 similar ones (still different mfg) at Lowe's and
    they didn't affect x10 at all. So, the problem could be something as
    simple as changing a light bulb.

    Art, you were right about the LED bulb! I forgot that I replaced my
    closet bulb recently with a GE LED bulb that was subsidized by my power company. So after reading your post I removed that LED light and my
    powerline ethernet connection works again! I think I also bought it at
    Lowe's, but I am not 100% sure of it.
    Thanks for the excellent tip, Art!

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  • From Brian W. Antoine@21:1/5 to cameo on Mon Jun 5 11:36:29 2017
    On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 16:48:43 -0700, cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/3/2017 5:13 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 11:16 PM, cameo wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 2:17 PM, Bob F wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 11:17 AM, cameo wrote:
    On 6/2/2017 8:49 AM, Bob F wrote:
    On 6/1/2017 4:42 PM, cameo wrote:
    I've been using the TPL-303E2K Powerline adapters for several years >>>>>>> to connect my IP surveillance cameras through them to Internet via >>>>>>> my home's 120V power lines. The setup worked for me better than
    WiFi but a few weeks ago it stopped working. After some
    experimentation I found out that the cams would still work from
    electric outlets closer to my router but that's not where I needed >>>>>>> to have them. The best guess I could come up is that perhaps my
    power lines got much "noisier" recently but I can't figure what
    could have caused that because I have not introduced any new
    electric appliances that could account for it.
    I wonder if any of you experienced similar unexplained problems and >>>>>>> had come up with an explanation, and hopefully a fix for it.

    It could be like X10 signals. Plug something new into a socket, and >>>>>> suddenly the signal on that phase of the power gets sucked down to >>>>>> where it rarely works. The something new could be in any house
    connected to the transformer that feeds your house. Check whether
    the places the signal doesn't work are all on one phase of the power. >>>>>
    Hm. Thanks. Of course I could not do much if the power noise comes
    from a neighbor. I was also wondering if the power company itself
    puts some carrier frequency on its lines as a means to remotely read >>>>> the meters.



    It isn't necessarily "noise". It could be that something has a filter" >>>> in it that shorts the frequency of your cameras to ground at that
    device. You could be right about the power company equipment though.
    That one you can ask them about. They might be able to add a filter to >>>> your meter to keep their signal out of your house.

    Good ideas. Thanks.
    Here's what happened to me, with x10 signals. I put in 2 new LED mini
    flood bulbs in my range hood. When they were on, all x10 stuff didn't
    work. I returned them and bought different ones ... same results.
    Later, I purchased 2 similar ones (still different mfg) at Lowe's and
    they didn't affect x10 at all. So, the problem could be something as
    simple as changing a light bulb.

    Art, you were right about the LED bulb! I forgot that I replaced my
    closet bulb recently with a GE LED bulb that was subsidized by my power >company. So after reading your post I removed that LED light and my
    powerline ethernet connection works again! I think I also bought it at >Lowe's, but I am not 100% sure of it.
    Thanks for the excellent tip, Art!


    Glad you found it, I was going to suggest checking your grounding rod on
    your power meter. I've noticed a change in the noise level depending on
    the time of year and how much rain I've had, finally sprang for one of
    those XTBM monitors that showed me the changing noise levels.

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