• Need 13 postscript base fonts

    From crossjudas@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 8 13:36:50 2016
    Hello,

    I often come in contact with documents that reference the 13 postscript base fonts. The problem is that the authors of the documents fail to embed the fonts. Can anyone be so kind as to share them?

    Thank you,

    Chris


    In original PostScript, there are 13 base fonts:

    Courier (Regular, Oblique, Bold, Bold Oblique)
    Helvetica (Regular, Oblique, Bold, Bold Oblique)
    Times (Roman, Italic, Bold, Bold Italic)
    Symbol


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  • From Peter Flynn@21:1/5 to crossjudas on Wed Dec 14 00:00:49 2016
    On 12/08/2016 07:36 PM, crossjudas wrote:
    Hello,

    I often come in contact with documents that reference the 13
    postscript base fonts.

    These are the "Adobe 35" fonts of PS Level 2, which includes the
    original 13 from PS Level 1 (no-one uses Level 1 nowadays AFAIK):

    Avant Garde
    Bookman
    Courier
    Helvetica
    Helvetica Narrow
    New Century Schoolbook
    Palatino
    Times
    Symbol
    Zapf Chancery
    Zapf Dingbats

    All in four variants (Roman, Bold, Italic, Bold Italic) except for the
    last three, which are singletons; that's (8×4)+3=35 fonts.

    The problem is that the authors of the documents fail to embed the
    fonts.

    That's because practically all printers, drivers, and applications
    already have the fonts embedded in the firmware.

    It's not that authors "fail" to embed the fonts: they don't need to and
    should NOT embed them — because the software and hardware already have a copy.

    It's technically possible to embed them, but usually difficult because
    it's unnecessary duplication, and discouraged by the software. Not
    really fair to blame the authors for something they didn't do and
    wouldn't know how to, in most cases.

    If you can explain what you want to do, perhaps we can help.

    Can anyone be so kind as to share them?

    They can be found in many places, but they are Type 1 fonts, so
    you need *both* the AFM and PFB files for each one. They are not single
    files like .ttf or .otf fonts: you need .pfb *and* .afm files.

    There are thousands of clones, ripoffs, and genuine redrawings of these
    fonts going under various names. A lot depends on how accurate you need
    them to be (ie the same metrics), how well you want them hinted, and
    whether you want them with all modern additions — that is, all Unicode Latin-alphabet diacriticals, plus things like the Euro sign €, which are omitted in lower-quality copies (and, of course, in the originals, which
    were first done this way for PS printers in the mid-1980s).

    They are a part of the Ghostscript package, https://ghostscript.com/download/gsdnld.html (pick the AGPL license for personal use, but read it first).

    They are also contained in the standard TeX Live distribution from http://tug.org/texlive/ in TDS directories /texmf-dist/fonts/afm and /texmf-dist/fonts/type1 (in the urw and adobe subdirectories — copies
    were supplied by URW except for Courier, which was supplied by Adobe, no
    idea why).

    But if you don't have a copy of TeX Live installed, email me privately
    and I'll zip them up (fractional distribution is usually unwise but an exception is made for personal use).

    If you need them for commercial purposes, you may be better off buying
    them from Adobe's suppliers at http://www.adobe.com/products/type/fonts-by-adobe.html if you have
    customers who don't understand licensing.

    ///Peter

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  • From crossjudas@21:1/5 to crossjudas on Thu Feb 9 18:25:40 2017
    Hello,

    I am willing to pay someone a fee from Paypal for the following type 1 fonts (pfm and pfb files):

    Courier (Regular, Oblique, Bold, Bold Oblique)
    Helvetica (Oblique, Bold Oblique)
    Symbol

    How about $4/font? The company Adobe sent me a real nasty letter in reply to my complaint that I would have to pay top dollar for any fonts regardless of my noble purpose. They won't help me. All I want is to have a book printed from a file that I paid
    for. The company that I bought the book files from are in no situation to help. They don't know what fonts are. If you've ever just wanted to stick-it-to-the-man of big businesses like Adobe, here is your chance. You can help someone in need with no
    commercial motives exercise his "fair use" rights to make a backup copy of legally purchased information. Thank you.

    Chris


    On 04 Feb 2017 10:05 PM ,"crossjudas" <housetrained@ameritech.net> wrote:
    Hello,

    I often come in contact with old documents that reference the 13 type 1 postscript base fonts. The problem is that many authors of the documents fail to embed the fonts. If I want to print a book for my personal use, I need the fonts embeded. Can
    anyone be so kind as to share? If you're not willing to share, please don't pretend to help me by responding with useless advice. Also, I need the actual fonts. Fonts that look the same are completely useless. The computer does not care that such and
    such looks about the same. I need the following:

    Courier (Regular, Oblique, Bold, Bold Oblique)
    Helvetica (Oblique, Bold Oblique)
    Symbol

    I'm not sure if I need the pfm or pfb so if you could be so kind as to include both.

    Thank you so much,

    Chris


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    On 08 Dec 2016 02:36 PM ,"crossjudas" <housetrained@ameritech.net> wrote:
    Hello,

    I often come in contact with documents that reference the 13 postscript base fonts. The problem is that the authors of the documents fail to embed the fonts. Can anyone be so kind as to share them?

    Thank you,

    Chris


    In original PostScript, there are 13 base fonts:

    Courier (Regular, Oblique, Bold, Bold Oblique)
    Helvetica (Regular, Oblique, Bold, Bold Oblique)
    Times (Roman, Italic, Bold, Bold Italic)
    Symbol


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  • From David E. Ross@21:1/5 to crossjudas on Thu Feb 9 19:25:35 2017
    On 2/9/2017 4:25 PM, crossjudas wrote:
    Hello,

    I am willing to pay someone a fee from Paypal for the following type 1 fonts (pfm and pfb files):

    Courier (Regular, Oblique, Bold, Bold Oblique)
    Helvetica (Oblique, Bold Oblique)
    Symbol

    How about $4/font? The company Adobe sent me a real nasty letter in reply to my complaint that I would have to pay top dollar for any fonts regardless of my noble purpose. They won't help me. All I want is to have a book printed from a file that I paid
    for. The company that I bought the book files from are in no situation to help. They don't know what fonts are. If you've ever just wanted to stick-it-to-the-man of big businesses like Adobe, here is your chance. You can help someone in need with no
    commercial motives exercise his "fair use" rights to make a backup copy of legally purchased information. Thank you.

    Chris



    My copies of Courier New (not merely Courier), Helvetica, and Symbol all
    have restricted licenses, so I cannot help you with those

    I have Symbola, Map Symbols, and Martin Vogel's Symbols, which are all freeware. I do not know how they differ from Symbol. Would you be
    interested?

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    There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and
    alternative truths.

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  • From ken@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 10 08:01:14 2017
    In article <OJadnYXOAvMZlQDFnZ2dnUU7-THNnZ2d@giganews.com>, housetrained@ameritech.net says...
    I am willing to pay someone a fee from Paypal for the following
    type 1 fonts (pfm and pfb files):

    Courier (Regular, Oblique, Bold, Bold Oblique)
    Helvetica (Oblique, Bold Oblique)
    Symbol

    How about $4/font? The company Adobe sent me a real nasty letter in reply to my complaint that I would have to pay top dollar for any fonts regardless of my noble purpose. They won't help me. All I want is to have a book printed from a file that I paid
    for. The company that I bought the book files from are in no situation to help. They don't know what fonts are. If you've ever just wanted to stick-it-to-the-man of big businesses like Adobe, here is your chance. You can
    help someone in need with no commercial motives exercise his "fair use" rights to make a backup copy of legally purchased information. Thank you.

    If you have a PostScript program then you don't need the fonts, just
    send it to a PostScript printer and it will already have the fonts
    resident. That's why old PostScript programs don't include the fonts, in
    the days when PostScript was sent to the printer over a 9600 bps serial
    line an extra 30KB of data was a big overhead.

    So if you're printing the program yourself to a PostScript printer, you
    don;t need the fonts. If you're having someone print it for you then
    their printers should contain the fonts, so you still don't need them.
    I'm at a loss to understand why you need these fonts.....

    However:

    URW released a set of the base 35 PostScript fonts under the AGPL, and
    Artifex uses them for Ghostscript. You can find the fonts (I beleive
    also the AFM files, but I'm not certain) at:

    git.ghostscript.com/urw-core35-fonts.git

    If you have a PostScript program then you don;t need the AFM (Adobe Font Metric) files, as the metrics are already taken into account when
    creating the program.

    Finally you could use Adobe Acrobat Distiller, or Ghostscript, to create
    a PDF file from the PostScript program. Of course, the PDF file won't
    contain these fonts either, for exactly the same reason as the
    PostScript program, these fonts are specified as present in any PDF
    consumer. However if you set EmbedAllFonts to true, then both the
    distillers will embed the fonts for you as well.


    Regards,

    Ken Sharp

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  • From Peter Flynn@21:1/5 to ken on Thu Mar 2 21:05:25 2017
    On 02/10/2017 08:01 AM, ken wrote:
    In article <OJadnYXOAvMZlQDFnZ2dnUU7-THNnZ2d@giganews.com>, housetrained@ameritech.net says...
    I am willing to pay someone a fee from Paypal for the following
    type 1 fonts (pfm and pfb files):

    Courier (Regular, Oblique, Bold, Bold Oblique)
    Helvetica (Oblique, Bold Oblique)
    Symbol

    How about $4/font? The company Adobe sent me a real nasty letter in reply to my complaint that I would have to pay top dollar for any fonts regardless of my noble purpose. They won't help me. All I want is to have a book printed from a file that I
    paid for. The company that I bought the book files from are in no situation to help. They don't know what fonts are. If you've ever just wanted to stick-it-to-the-man of big businesses like Adobe, here is your chance. You can
    help someone in need with no commercial motives exercise his "fair use" rights to make a backup copy of legally purchased information. Thank you.

    Why did you post this a second time when I already told you where to get
    the fonts?

    [ken]
    If you have a PostScript program then you don't need the fonts, just
    send it to a PostScript printer

    Or install Ghostscript (free) and print it on any printer.

    [ken]
    Finally you could use Adobe Acrobat Distiller, or Ghostscript, to create
    a PDF file from the PostScript program.

    That too.

    ///Peter

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