• Dish says SpaceX 'manipulated' tests and lied to customers about 5G int

    From Monty Solomon@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 7 16:45:07 2022
    Dish says SpaceX has been lying to customers about how a plan to
    expand the use of certain airwaves for 5G could disrupt its Starlink internet-from-space service. SpaceX sent a "manipulated filing" to the
    Federal Communications Commission in an attempt to prove the expanded
    5G usage would lead to substantial interference, writes Dish and a
    group of other companies known as the 5G for 12 GHz Coalition. They
    write that SpaceX is conducting "a public misinformation campaign"
    against 5G.

    "This tactic, which is commonly used by Elon Musk, is not only
    disingenuous, but it promulgates an anti-5G narrative that is harmful
    to American consumers who deserve greater competition, connectivity
    options and innovation," the Coalition writes in a statement published
    today.

    https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/7/23198523/dish-spacex-starlink-5g-12ghz-argument-manipulated-tests

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  • From Fred Goldstein@21:1/5 to Monty Solomon on Sun Jul 10 13:19:53 2022
    On 7/7/2022 4:45 PM, Monty Solomon wrote:
    Dish says SpaceX has been lying to customers about how a plan to
    expand the use of certain airwaves for 5G could disrupt its Starlink internet-from-space service. SpaceX sent a "manipulated filing" to the Federal Communications Commission in an attempt to prove the expanded
    5G usage would lead to substantial interference, writes Dish and a
    group of other companies known as the 5G for 12 GHz Coalition. They
    write that SpaceX is conducting "a public misinformation campaign"
    against 5G.

    "This tactic, which is commonly used by Elon Musk, is not only
    disingenuous, but it promulgates an anti-5G narrative that is harmful
    to American consumers who deserve greater competition, connectivity
    options and innovation," the Coalition writes in a statement published
    today.

    https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/7/23198523/dish-spacex-starlink-5g-12ghz-argument-manipulated-tests

    I trust Elon Musk not as far as I can throw him, but still perhaps more
    than one can trust Charlie Ergen.

    The 12 GHz band is used for satellite downlinks. Thus the receivers
    have to pick up signals from thousands or hundreds of miles
    away. These include signals from GEOsats like, uh, Dish, and LEOsats
    like Starlink. The satellite TV business is apparently not as
    profitable as the mobile phone business, so Charlie is willing to
    sacrifice it in order to get free mobile spectrum, which nowadays is a financial instrument worth more in trade than in use. That is his
    usual business plan -- buy up licenses that are for limited, low-power
    use and beg the FCC to change them to higher-power, more valuable
    licenses. Nice work if you can get it. He's doing the same thing on
    the 3.5 GHz CBRS band, where they bought a bunch of Priority Access
    Licenses with a 47 dBm/10 MHz power limit and are asking to raise the
    power limit by a factor of more than 100, which of course would
    disrupt other users of the band.

    The idea that a satellite downlink won't be interfered with by a
    mobile phone passing in front of it is, well, ridiculous on its
    face. Charlie's main excuse seems to be that Starlink is also allowed
    to use higher-frequency bands, which are more subject to rain fade, so
    they shouldn't care if 12 GHz is interfered with. Yeah, right.

    --
    Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred "at" ionary.com
    +1 617 795 2701

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