• "War upon end-to-end encryption:" EU want Big Tech to scan private mess

    From Monty Solomon@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 12 00:38:01 2022
    A European Commission proposal could force tech companies to scan
    private messages for child sexual abuse material (CSAM) and evidence
    of grooming, even when those messages are supposed to be protected by end-to-end encryption.

    Online services that receive "detection orders" under the pending
    European Union legislation would have "obligations concerning the
    detection, reporting, removal and blocking of known and new child
    sexual abuse material, as well as solicitation of children, regardless
    of the technology used in the online exchanges," the proposal
    says. The plan calls end-to-end encryption an important security tool
    but essentially orders companies to break that end-to-end encryption
    by whatever technological means necessary.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/05/war-upon-end-to-end-encryption-eu-wants-big-tech-to-scan-private-messages/

    ***** Moderator's Note *****

    This kind of fluff pops up whenever some EU country is having an
    election: it's free ink for the incumbents, and free ad revenue for
    the "news" outlets that push it upon an untrained and ignorant public.

    Whatever technical means the EU might /think/ are necessary, they
    would be, even if implemented, bypassed by the porn freaks with little
    trouble. I know this because I had a job doing remote-access virus
    removal back in the early 2000's, and I found out that most of my
    customers were trying to recover porm that had been deleted or
    encrypted by others whom were taking advantage of the porn freaks'
    passion (pun intended) for anonymity.

    I was astonished at the number and variety of tips, techniques, and
    software packages available to those whom chose to trade questionable
    images or text: not as astonished as I was at some of the images, but
    I solved that problem by finding another job.

    Long story short, neither the EU nor any ISP can block traffic in
    pornography, no matter how hard they pretend to try.

    Bill Horne
    Moderator

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Monty Solomon on Fri May 20 23:44:21 2022
    On 5/12/2022 0:38, Monty Solomon wrote:
    A European Commission proposal could force tech companies to scan
    private messages for child sexual abuse material (CSAM) and evidence
    of grooming, even when those messages are supposed to be protected by end-to-end encryption.

    ***** Moderator's Note *****

    Whatever technical means the EU might /think/ are necessary, they
    would be, even if implemented, bypassed by the porn freaks with little trouble.

    Long story short, neither the EU nor any ISP can block traffic in pornography, no matter how hard they pretend to try.

    All they managed to do by attempting to block pornography via Usenet
    years ago was dismantling and drastically reducing the relevance of
    Usenet in whole, saving many ISP's a buck in the mean time.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 23 16:29:32 2022
    Am Donnerstag, 12. Mai 2022, um 00:38:01 Uhr schrieb Monty Solomon:

    Online services that receive "detection orders" under the pending
    European Union legislation would have "obligations concerning the
    detection, reporting, removal and blocking of known and new child
    sexual abuse material, as well as solicitation of children, regardless
    of the technology used in the online exchanges," the proposal
    says. The plan calls end-to-end encryption an important security tool
    but essentially orders companies to break that end-to-end encryption
    by whatever technological means necessary.

    That is just the next step in more surveillance. We already have
    internet censorship by DNS in the EU, now the government also wants to
    look at what people are transferring.

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