• Verizon Fios begins offering multi-gig home internet speeds in NYC [tel

    From Bill Horne@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 12 17:28:53 2022
    The provider's fastest plan is available in select areas of the city
    and will be rolled out to additional markets later this year.

    After Ziply Fiber and AT&T nabbed headlines in January with
    announcements about their new multi-gig home internet plans, Verizon
    has stepped forward with news of its own. Beginning Tuesday, select
    areas of the New York City market will be able to sign up for the Fios
    2 Gigabit Connection plan, which offers upload and download speeds as
    high as 2.3 gigabits per second.

    Verizon Fios, the company's 100% fiber-optic home internet service, is available in eight Northeastern states and the District of
    Columbia. In most markets, it offers three plans: Fios 300 (300 megabits-per-second download and upload speeds), Fios 500 (500Mbps
    download, upload) and Fios Gigabit (940Mbps download, 880Mbps upload).


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    I'm curious where the "select areas of the New York City market" are
    located, and even more curious as to what makes them "select."

    I'm also curious about how a line that tops out at 940 Mbps can be
    labelled "Gigabit" when it obviously isn't: let's see, I'll grab a
    virtual pencil ...

    940 divided by 1,000 is 0.94.
    880 divided by 1,000 is 0.88.

    So, Verizon's "Gigabit" service, according to Cnet, is only 94% of a
    Gigabit on download, and only 88% of a Gigabit on uploads.

    Bill Horne

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  • From Fred Goldstein@21:1/5 to Bill Horne on Sun Feb 13 11:22:21 2022
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    On 2/12/2022 12:28 PM, Bill Horne wrote:
    The provider's fastest plan is available in select areas of the city
    and will be rolled out to additional markets later this year.
    ...

    I'm also curious about how a line that tops out at 940 Mbps can be
    labelled "Gigabit" when it obviously isn't: let's see, I'll grab a
    virtual pencil ...

    940 divided by 1,000 is 0.94.
    880 divided by 1,000 is 0.88.

    So, Verizon's "Gigabit" service, according to Cnet, is only 94% of a
    Gigabit on download, and only 88% of a Gigabit on uploads.

    Bill Horne

    Speeds are measured using the burst rate of the physical layer. GigE essentially transmits a bit in a billionth of a second. But usable
    capacity is always lower than the burst rate. There is protocol
    overhead, like the packet headers, and sometimes some mandatory wait
    time, like for upstream arbitration. So depending on how it's measured,
    it's always somewhat below the burst rate. The FCC rule for compliance
    with CAF/RDOF obligation is to net 80%.

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    <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">The provider's fastest plan is available in select areas of the city
    and will be rolled out to additional markets later this year.
    ...

    I'm also curious about how a line that tops out at 940 Mbps can be
    labelled "Gigabit" when it obviously isn't: let's see, I'll grab a
    virtual pencil ...

    940 divided by 1,000 is 0.94.
    880 divided by 1,000 is 0.88.

    So, Verizon's "Gigabit" service, according to Cnet, is only 94% of a
    Gigabit on download, and only 88% of a Gigabit on uploads.

    Bill Horne
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    Speeds are measured using the burst rate of the physical layer. GigE
    essentially transmits a bit in a billionth of a second. But usable
    capacity is always lower than the burst rate. There is protocol
    overhead, like the packet headers, and sometimes some mandatory wait
    time, like for upstream arbitration. So depending on how it's
    measured, it's always somewhat below the burst rate. The FCC rule
    for compliance with CAF/RDOF obligation is to net 80%.<br>
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  • From Curt@21:1/5 to Bill Horne on Sun Feb 13 11:36:03 2022
    On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 17:28:53 +0000 (UTC), Bill Horne <malQRMassimilation@gmail.com> wrote:
    I'm also curious about how a line that tops out at 940 Mbps can be
    labelled "Gigabit" when it obviously isn't: let's see, I'll grab a
    virtual pencil ...

    940 divided by 1,000 is 0.94.
    880 divided by 1,000 is 0.88.

    So, Verizon's "Gigabit" service, according to Cnet, is only 94% of a
    Gigabit on download, and only 88% of a Gigabit on uploads.

    Shouldn't the divisor be 1024? Then down is 0.918 and up only 0.859.

    Just my 1.7 cents worth.

    interim moderator's note: No. Ethernet speeds are in decimal multiples of
    10, kilo not kibi etc.

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