• Can I sent a FAX over a voip line?

    From Bill Horne@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 3 10:17:59 2021
    Here's a question that I hope T-D readers can help me with.

    I have a vague memory of some requirement that VoIP phone lines support
    FAX transmission. I'd like that to be true, but before I go to the
    effort of getting my VoIP->POTS adapter to work with Callcentric, I'd appreciate your help.

    Is VoIP capable or carrying FAX calls? Is there any requirement that
    VoIP providers such as Callcentric support such a capability?

    Bill
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    Bill Horne

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to telecomdigestsubmissions@remove-thi on Sun Oct 3 14:40:53 2021
    It appears that Bill Horne <telecomdigestsubmissions@remove-this.remove-this.telecom-digest.org> said:
    Is VoIP capable or carrying FAX calls? Is there any requirement that
    VoIP providers such as Callcentric support such a capability?

    Why are you asking us? They have a detailed FAQ on this very question:

    https://www.callcentric.com/faq/30#205

    (Short answer, yes, but read the whole thing.)

    R's,
    John

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  • From Dave Platt@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 3 17:34:02 2021
    In theory, VOIP can carry fax transmissions, but in practice
    it does not work very well. You need to be using a simple
    codec (alaw or ulaw) and have very little timing jitter
    in your network path... otherwise there will probably be
    enough waveform distortion to corrupt the fax transmission
    badly. Other types of modem-over-VoIP have similar
    problems.

    Some VoIP providers have the ability to detect a fax handshake
    in an incoming call, terminate the call to a faxmodem, and
    forward the fax to you via email... and may provide an
    email-to-outbound-fax origination service as well.

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  • From Marc SCHAEFER@21:1/5 to Bill Horne on Mon Oct 4 05:55:31 2021
    Bill Horne <telecomdigestsubmissions@remove-this.remove-this.telecom-digest.org> wrote:
    I have a vague memory of some requirement that VoIP phone lines support
    FAX transmission. I'd like that to be true, but before I go to the
    effort of getting my VoIP->POTS adapter to work with Callcentric, I'd appreciate your help.

    It will be slow and unreliable to transmit fax audio through
    Voice-over-IP. However, most VoIP adapters have a T.38 settings, and if
    this supported by your Voice-over-IP provider, it will work [1]: the fax
    will not be sent through audio but numerically:

    without T.38, slow, unreliable:

    fax machine --- VoIP adapter --- Internet --- VoIP provider
    analog numeric audio
    audio numeric audio

    with T.38, fast, reliable:


    fax machine --- VoIP adapter --- Internet --- VoIP provider
    analog T.38 data
    audio T.38 data

    After the VoIP provider, you get a standard phone network capable of
    handling fax audio, where T.38 is converted back. But more problems
    might happen if the other end is also VoIP without T.38.

    Another alternative would be to sign up with an e-mail to/from fax service provider, there the fax is sent or received as a compressed image.

    [1] https://www.callcentric.com/faq/30#205
    seems to support receiving fax to e-mail, and has information about
    T.38 and no T.38.

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