• [Telecom] PIN Code to Reach

    From Fred Atkinson@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 14 13:38:31 2021
    Folks,

    Some years ago, I had a friend [who is now departed] living in Bishopville, South Carolina. He had a feature added to his phone service that required the caller to enter a four digit PIN in order to get through to his phone after you dialed his phone number. I knew the PIN so I could call him when I needed to. But it shut down the telemarketers pretty quickly.

    This was a great way to keep scammers from reaching you. Only people you gave the PIN to could actually reach you.

    I now have an aunt who is getting pretty senile. Her son (a first cousin of mine) heard her almost give her Social Security number over the phone. Thankfully, he stopped her in mid-sentence.

    He is looking for a way to keep her from receiving bad calls like
    this so she can keep her telephone service. He needs to be able to reach her as do others who have a legitimate need to call her. This might be a solution if it is available to her.

    I do not what the name of this service would be. So, I can't tell
    my cousin what to ask for if he calls her phone company to se if it could be added to her service.

    She lives near Atlanta, Georgia. She is on a POTS line.

    Can any of you help me by providing me with the name of this
    service?

    Regards,




    Fred

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Fred Atkinson on Wed Aug 18 14:17:49 2021
    On 8/14/2021 4:38 PM, Fred Atkinson wrote:
    Folks,

    Some years ago, I had a friend [who is now departed] living in Bishopville, South Carolina. He had a feature added to his phone service that
    required the caller to enter a four digit PIN in order to get through to his phone after you dialed his phone number. I knew the PIN so I could call him when I needed to. But it shut down the telemarketers pretty quickly.

    (Moderator snip)

    I do not what the name of this service would be. So, I can't tell my cousin what to ask for if he calls her phone company to see if it could be added to her service.

    She lives near Atlanta, Georgia. She is on a POTS line.

    Can any of you help me by providing me with the name of this service?

    Is AT&T the incumbent telco for Atlanta, GA? Have you tried calling
    AT&T customer service? If they can't help you, call the "retention
    team"; they are more experience in handling these matters.

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  • From Fred Atkinson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 18 16:03:04 2021
    On Aug 18, 2021, at 1:29 PM, Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    Is AT&T the incumbent telco for Atlanta, GA? Have you tried calling
    AT&T customer service? If they can't help you, call the "retention
    team"; they are more experience in handling these matters.


    I believe it is.

    My experience with telco business offices is that if you
    don't know the specific name of the service, the more likely that they
    won't know what you want.

    I once had a Centurylink business office tell me they did
    not sell ISDN service. Both the CSR and the supervisor told me the
    same thing. This was despite the fact that we already had Centurylink
    ISDN lines.

    It would help if I knew the name of that service (the name
    that AT&T calls it).

    Regards,



    Fred

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  • From phreak@phreaknet.org@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Wed Aug 18 15:46:11 2021
    On 8/18/2021 1:17 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 8/14/2021 4:38 PM, Fred Atkinson wrote:
    Folks,

    Some years ago, I had a friend [who is now departed] living in
    Bishopville, South Carolina. He had a feature added to his phone
    service that required the caller to enter a four digit PIN in order
    to get through to his phone after you dialed his phone number. I
    knew the PIN so I could call him when I needed to. But it shut
    down the telemarketers pretty quickly.

    (Moderator snip)

    I do not what the name of this service would be. So, I
    can't tell my cousin what to ask for if he calls her phone company
    to see if it could be added to her service.

    She lives near Atlanta, Georgia. She is on a POTS line.

    Can any of you help me by providing me with the name of
    this service?

    Is AT&T the incumbent telco for Atlanta, GA? Have you tried calling
    AT&T customer service? If they can't help you, call the "retention
    team"; they are more experience in handling these matters.

    The name of this service is "Security Screen" and it is a proprietary CenturyLink "exclusive" feature as far as I know. I mapped out all of
    their custom features some time ago and the description matches the
    code and prompts that I have. If CenturyLink is not the RBOC/ILEC
    (depending on where you live), it may not be an option. I have the
    feature on my personal switch.


    ***** Moderator's Note *****

    I have a friend who uses Google Voice to screen his calls: whenever I
    call him, GV asks me to state my name and then promises to try and
    find him. I don't know what's involved or what it costs.

    I assume that if I knew his actual cell phone number, I could bypass
    Google Voice, but it's better than nothing.

    Of course, most AutoSleazers dial random numbers, so that might not be
    a viable solution.

    Bill Horne
    Moderator

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  • From Bill Horne@21:1/5 to David on Fri Aug 20 17:44:58 2021
    On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:05:33AM -0400, David wrote:
    True. But GV can ring up to 6 numbers simultaneously plus VOIP apps.

    Sorry, I didn't write very clearly.

    The point I was trying to make is that Google Voice can't stop
    robocalls which are randomly dialed: it only works to screen calls
    made to numbers that Sleezeoids have purchased from database vendors.

    Bill

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  • From David@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 20 10:05:33 2021
    ***** Moderator's Note *****

    I have a friend who uses Google Voice to screen his calls: whenever I
    call him, GV asks me to state my name and then promises to try and
    find him. I don't know what's involved or what it costs.

    It's free, as is all GV domestic use.

    You get prompted if you are not in his Contacts list.
    If you are, he gets a robovoice with your name.

    I assume that if I knew his actual cell phone number, I could bypass
    Google Voice, but it's better than nothing.

    True. But GV can ring up to 6 numbers simultaneously plus VOIP apps.

    Also note Callcentric offers Telemarketer Block. The caller gets
    prompted to "Dial 'n' to connect" when n is a random 0-9; 99.999% of the telesleeze do not. Again, a phonebook entry bypasses it. Users seem to
    love it.

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to malQassRimiMlation@gmail.com on Fri Aug 20 22:55:50 2021
    It appears that Bill Horne <malQassRimiMlation@gmail.com> said:
    On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:05:33AM -0400, David wrote:
    True. But GV can ring up to 6 numbers simultaneously plus VOIP apps.

    Sorry, I didn't write very clearly.

    The point I was trying to make is that Google Voice can't stop
    robocalls which are randomly dialed: it only works to screen calls
    made to numbers that Sleezeoids have purchased from database vendors.

    The Callcentric "press N to complete your call" works really well. I
    have it on all of my VoIP lines.

    Callcentric is quite cheap and flexible. It can terminate calls on a
    hardware or software VoIP phone or forward them to POTS numbers.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Fred Atkinson on Fri Aug 20 18:16:12 2021
    On 8/18/2021 7:03 PM, Fred Atkinson wrote:
    On Aug 18, 2021, at 1:29 PM, Michael Trew<michael.trew@att.net> wrote:

    Is AT&T the incumbent telco for Atlanta, GA? Have you tried calling
    AT&T customer service? If they can't help you, call the "retention
    team"; they are more experience in handling these matters.


    I believe it is.

    (snip)

    It would help if I knew the name of that service (the name
    that AT&T calls it).

    Regards,


    Fred

    Check the AT&T CPR website. All features should be listed there.

    https://cpr.att.com/guidebook/index.html

    I've never looked at the Georgia guidebook before, but I can't say that
    I've seen it in the Ohio guide book. It might not be available through
    AT&T. It might also be an option for digital phone customers only.
    These guidebooks are for regular POTS service only.

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