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  • Is anyone still using ABF 4GL?

    From nikosv@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 13:45:24 2023
    Really,is anyone still using it? I'm still stuck with maintaining and developing new features for a legacy app made in the 90s and still goes on , especially adding interoperability with third party APIs or web services.
    I'm talking ABF not openroad.
    Just wondering.I think in the UK there's some usage still.

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  • From Roy Hann@21:1/5 to nikosv on Wed Aug 23 23:18:33 2023
    nikosv wrote:

    Really,is anyone still using it? I'm still stuck with maintaining and developing new features for a legacy
    app made in the 90s and still goes on , especially adding interoperability with third party APIs or
    web services.

    I'm talking ABF not openroad.
    Just wondering.I think in the UK there's some usage still.

    Yes! I am helping a customer go live on Saturday with a new release of
    Inrgres 11.2 and an ABF application that literally runs their business.
    It's nationally important food wholesaler.

    We have other customers running ABF in important areas of their
    business. ABF just works.

    That said, if you want something a bit more mobile-friendly or
    graphical, that conserves the value of your Ingres database, we have
    solutions.

    Roy

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  • From nikosv@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 24 02:13:29 2023
    wow!
    Have they ever thought of migrating to a new app/technology/platform or are they fans of the
    "If it works do not touch" mentality?
    The truth is, as I have found out throughout the years, is that really ABF apps are resilient despite outdated.
    We really do abuse "call system" to access external tools/apis.

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  • From G Jones@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 25 00:28:17 2023
    "Legacy app" made me smile. At my previous workplace the dev team leader would bristle at the ABF apps being called that, saying that they were current, under active development and relied on by the business.
    Every place I've worked used ABF (at the time, I can't say whether they still do). It's still in use where I am now, though only for 1 fairly small application.
    ABF projects developed over many years can be large and difficult to break down into more manageable chunks, should it be necessary to move functionality into something with a more modern look+feel. Back when I used ABF regularly I remember wishing that "
    call application" had options to pass globals around.

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  • From Colin Hay@21:1/5 to nikosv on Wed Aug 30 04:02:42 2023
    On Thursday, 24 August 2023 at 06:45:26 UTC+10, nikosv wrote:
    Really,is anyone still using it? I'm still stuck with maintaining and developing new features for a legacy app made in the 90s and still goes on , especially adding interoperability with third party APIs or web services.
    I'm talking ABF not openroad.
    Just wondering.I think in the UK there's some usage still.

    Yep still have one client who use it for batch only in Ingres 11.0 - even though they lost the source code a few years back ;-)

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