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This is a bit like Colonel Mustard in the Drawing room with the ice pick
Need some clues Marty.
help table?Β Β create time?Β what is in errlog.log, iidbms...log around
the time?
Is the database and table journaled?Β Maybe run auditdb
-aborted_transactions near the create time.
What is the state of the the extended table?
select r1.relid as base_table, c.attname as column_name, r2.relid as extend_table
from iirelation r1,iirelation r2,iiattribute c,iiextended_relation e
where r1.reltid=e.etab_base and r2.reltid=e.etab_extension
Β and r1.reltid=c.attrelid
Β and c.attid=e.etab_attid
Β and r1.reltidx=0
Β and c.attrelidx=0
where column_name = 'responses'
order by base_table,column_name
help table (r2.relid from above)
select * from iirelation where table_name = (r2.relid from above)
Paul
On 18/06/2021 9:18 pm, Martin Bowes wrote:
Hi All,
Knowing the perverted nature of the user in question I wondered if he
had created the table from a distributed database via a statement like:
direct execute immediate βcreate table ztrans_symdig as select * from symdigβ
with node = ββ¦β, database =ββ¦β
So I set up a test case and β¦ nope, worked perfectly.
The userβs log file had better be phenomenally good.
Marty
*From:*Martin Bowes <martin.bowes@ndph.ox.ac.uk>
*Sent:* 18 June 2021 11:25
*To:* info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org
*Subject:* [Info-ingres] The column with no datatype
Hi All,
So one day I didβ¦
copydb -c -uoqs oqs_result_live ztrans_symdig
INGRES COPYDB Copyright 2016 Actian Corporation
Unload directory is '/user/ingres'.
Reload directory is '/user/ingres'.
There are 0 sequences owned by user 'oqs'.
There is one table owned by user 'oqs'.
E_AD2003 ADF routine was passed an unknown datatype name.
βWTF!β I thought to myself and after some investigationβ¦.
select column_sequence, column_datatype
from iicolumns
where table_name='ztrans_symdig' and column_name = 'responses';
βββββββββββββββββ¬βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ
βcolumn_sequenceβcolumn_datatype β
βββββββββββββββββΌβββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ€
β 18βΒ Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β β
βββββββββββββββββ΄βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ
(1 row)
How is that possible?
Now iicolumns is a view and so I went back to the iirelation and
iiattribute tables:
select varchar(r.relid, 13), attid, varchar(attname, 13),
a.attfrmt, a.attfrml,
varchar(uppercase(iitypename(ii_ext_type(a.attfrmt, a.attfrml))), 12)
as datatype
from iiattribute a
Β Β Β join iirelation r on a.attrelid = r.reltid and a.attrelidx = r.reltidx
where a.attname = 'responses'
βββββββββββββββ¬βββββββ¬ββββββββββββββ¬ββββββββ¬ββββββββββββββ¬βββββββββββββ
βcol1Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β βattid βcol3 βattfrmtβattfrmlΒ Β Β Β Β βdatatypeΒ Β Β β
βββββββββββββββΌβββββββΌββββββββββββββΌββββββββΌββββββββββββββΌβββββββββββββ€
βsymdigΒ Β Β Β Β Β βΒ Β Β 18βresponses βΒ Β Β Β 22βΒ Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β 32βLONG VARCHARβ
βztrans_symdigβΒ Β Β 18βresponses βΒ Β Β Β 36βΒ Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β 16βΒ Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β β
βββββββββββββββ΄βββββββ΄ββββββββββββββ΄ββββββββ΄ββββββββββββββ΄βββββββββββββ
(2 rows)
Iβm trying to track down how the user has created this table and if
they have a log of the activity.
I think the user is doing a create table ztrans_symdig as select *
from symdig where 1 = 0;
However, Β when I try this the responses column correctly becomes a
long varchar without any problem.
Any suggestions?
Marty
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<p>This is a bit like Colonel Mustard in the Drawing room with the
ice pick</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Need some clues Marty.Β <br>
</p>
<p>help table?Β Β create time?Β what is in errlog.log, iidbms...logΒ
around the time?<br>
</p>
<p>Is the database and table journaled?Β Maybe run auditdb
-aborted_transactions near the create time.<br>
</p>
<p>What is the state of the the extended table?</p>
<font face="monospace">select r1.relid as base_table, c.attname as
column_name, r2.relid as extend_table<br>
from iirelation r1,iirelation r2,iiattribute c,iiextended_relation
e<br>
where r1.reltid=e.etab_base and r2.reltid=e.etab_extension<br>
Β and r1.reltid=c.attrelid<br>
Β and c.attid=e.etab_attid<br>
Β and r1.reltidx=0<br>
Β and c.attrelidx=0</font><br>
<font face="monospace">where column_name = 'responses'</font><br>
<font face="monospace">order by base_table,column_name</font>
<p><font face="monospace">help table </font><font face="monospace"><font
face="monospace">(r2.relid from above)</font></font></p>
<p><font face="monospace"><font face="monospace"></font>select *
from iirelation where table_name = (r2.relid from above)<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="monospace">Paul</font></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>On 18/06/2021 9:18 pm, Martin Bowes wrote:<br>
</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>Β </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Knowing the
perverted nature of the user in question I wondered if he
had created the table from a distributed database via a
statement like:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>Β </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">direct execute
immediate βcreate table ztrans_symdig as select * from
symdigβ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">with node =
ββ¦β, database =ββ¦β<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>Β </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So I set up a
test case and β¦ nope, worked perfectly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>Β </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The userβs log
file had better be phenomenally good.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>Β </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Marty<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>Β </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="mso-fareast-language:JA" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="mso-fareast-language:JA" lang="EN-US"> Martin
Bowes <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:
martin.bowes@ndph.ox.ac.uk"><
martin.bowes@ndph.ox.ac.uk></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> 18 June 2021 11:25<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:
info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org">
info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Info-ingres] The column with no
datatype<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Β </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Β </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So one day I didβ¦<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">copydb -c -uoqs oqs_result_live
ztrans_symdig<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">INGRES COPYDB Copyright 2016 Actian
Corporation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">Unload directory is '/user/ingres'.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">Reload directory is '/user/ingres'.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">There are 0 sequences owned by user
'oqs'.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">There is one table owned by user 'oqs'.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">E_AD2003
ADF routine was passed an unknown datatype name.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif"><o:p>Β </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">βWTF!β I thought to myself and after some
investigationβ¦.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Β </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">select column_sequence, column_datatype<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">from iicolumns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">where table_name='ztrans_symdig' and
column_name = 'responses';<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif"><o:p>Β </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">βββββββββββββββββ¬βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">βcolumn_sequenceβcolumn_datatypeΒ Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β
β<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">βββββββββββββββββΌβββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ€<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">βΒ Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β
18βΒ Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β β<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">βββββββββββββββββ΄βββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββββ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">(1 row)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">How is that possible?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Β </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now iicolumns is a view and so I went back
to the iirelation and iiattribute tables:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Β </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">select varchar(r.relid, 13), attid,
varchar(attname, 13),<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">a.attfrmt, a.attfrml,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">varchar(uppercase(iitypename(ii_ext_type(a.attfrmt,
a.attfrml))), 12) as datatype<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">from iiattribute a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">Β Β Β join iirelation r on a.attrelid =
r.reltid and a.attrelidx = r.reltidx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">where a.attname = 'responses'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif"><o:p>Β </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">βββββββββββββββ¬βββββββ¬ββββββββββββββ¬ββββββββ¬ββββββββββββββ¬βββββββββββββ<o:p></o:
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">βcol1Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β βattid βcol3Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β
βattfrmtβattfrmlΒ Β Β Β Β βdatatypeΒ Β Β β<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">βββββββββββββββΌβββββββΌββββββββββββββΌββββββββΌββββββββββββββΌβββββββββββββ€<o:p></o:
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">βsymdigΒ Β Β Β Β Β βΒ Β Β 18βresponsesΒ Β Β
βΒ Β Β Β 22βΒ Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β 32βLONG VARCHARβ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">βztrans_symdigβΒ Β Β 18βresponsesΒ Β Β
βΒ Β Β Β 36βΒ Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β 16βΒ Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β β<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">βββββββββββββββ΄βββββββ΄ββββββββββββββ΄ββββββββ΄ββββββββββββββ΄βββββββββββββ<o:p></o:
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
Console",serif">(2 rows)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Β </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Iβm trying to track down how the user has
created this table and if they have a log of the activity.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think the user is doing a create table
ztrans_symdig as select * from symdig where 1 = 0;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">However, Β when I try this the responses
column correctly becomes a long varchar without any problem.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Β </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Any suggestions?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Β </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Marty<o:p></o:p></p>
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