• [Info-ingres] Listagg.....

    From Adrian Williamson@21:1/5 to Ingres and related product discussi on Thu Feb 11 15:32:00 2021
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    String Aggregate Functions

    Note: Valid for X100 tables only. – FECKERS.

    String aggregate functions concatenate a set of string values.

    LISTAGG



    If I paid a licence fee I’d be upset…




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    </o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>String aggregate functions concatenate a set of string values.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>LISTAGG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If I paid a licence fee I’d be upset…
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  • From Adrian Williamson@21:1/5 to Martin Bowes on Fri Feb 12 08:40:09 2021
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    Hey Marty,



    Thanks for pointing that out.



    Yes well, this customer is restrained to 11.0 by the prohibitive capital costs of testing one version of Ingres to the next.



    It also appears that the licence fees are not being spent on maintaining the online documentation repository, as there is no sperate 11.1 section, or should I be looking at Actian X.11.1?



    Much to my disgust I found myself looking at the database procedure syntax again and shortly after, wondering why ‘line 3’ was such a problem for the parsing of the procedure during the create process.



    No matter how I edited the body.



    I think it is 20 years since I had to write a DB procedure from scratch, it reminded me that:



    1. There is no chapter called ‘Working with DB Procedures’
    2. Emma still has not delivered on making OpenROAD the database language (she said this about 20 years ago at a conference)



    All working now.



    How is Oxford anyway?



    Must be a quiet without all that foreign money being launder around the streets.



    Cheers



    Adrian





    From: Martin Bowes <martin.bowes@ndph.ox.ac.uk>
    Sent: 12 February 2021 08:10
    To: Adrian Williamson <adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com>; 'Ingres and related product discussion forum' <info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org>
    Subject: RE: [Info-ingres] Listagg.....



    Feck ye not Adrian,



    LISTAGG is available to ordinary Ingres tables from 11.1.



    Here is an example, largely stolen from the 11.1 SQL Reference guide…



    declare global temporary table employee(

    dept varchar(20),

    empno integer4,

    firstname varchar(20),

    lastname varchar(20)

    );



    insert into employee values

    ('Marketing', 101, 'Douglas', 'Cray'),

    ('Marketing', 103, 'Dong', 'Luang'),

    ('Marketing', 105, 'Dennis', 'Indolay'),

    ('Admin', 107, 'Sherry', 'Keller'),

    ('Admin', 109, 'Carl', 'Nader'),

    ('Admin', 111, 'Ruth', 'Turret'),

    ('Sales', 113, 'Andrew', 'Bonnet'),

    ('Sales', 115, 'Oscar', 'Hender'),

    ('Sales', 117, 'Justin', 'Braushere'),

    ('Sales', 119, '', 'Smith');



    /* Concatenate the names of all employees, ordered by last name (LISTAGG used

    ** as a simple aggregate):

    */

    SELECT LISTAGG(lastname)

    WITHIN GROUP (ORDER BY lastname) AS PERSONNEL

    FROM employee;



    Will return: BonnetBraushereCrayHenderIndolayKellerLuangNaderSmithTurret



    So my Licence fee angst is not perturbed by this at least.



    Marty



    From: Adrian Williamson <adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com <mailto:adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com> >
    Sent: 11 February 2021 15:32
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    Subject: [Info-ingres] Listagg.....



    String Aggregate Functions

    Note: Valid for X100 tables only. – FECKERS.

    String aggregate functions concatenate a set of string values.

    LISTAGG



    If I paid a licence fee I’d be upset…




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    <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hey Marty,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-
    <o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks for pointing that out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><
    span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yes well, this customer is restrained to 11.0 by the prohibitive capital costs of testing one version of Ingres to the next.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&
    nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It also appears that the licence fees are not being spent on maintaining the online documentation repository, as there is no sperate 11.1 section, or should I be looking at
    Actian X.11.1?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Much to my disgust I found myself looking at  the database procedure
    syntax again and shortly after, wondering why ‘line 3’ was such a problem for the parsing of the procedure during the create process.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
    class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>No matter how  I edited the body.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:
    EN-US'>I think it is 20 years since I had to write a DB procedure from scratch, it reminded me that:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><
    li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>There is no chapter called ‘Working with DB Procedures’<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-
    list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Emma still has not delivered on making OpenROAD the database language (she said this about 20 years ago at a conference)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-
    language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>All working now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
    style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>How is Oxford anyway?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Must be a quiet without all
    that foreign money being launder around the streets.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
    class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></
    span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-
    Martin Bowes &lt;martin.bowes@ndph.ox.ac.uk&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 12 February 2021 08:10<br><b>To:</b> Adrian Williamson &lt;adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com&gt;; 'Ingres and related product discussion forum' &lt;info-ingres@lists.planetingres.
    org&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Info-ingres] Listagg.....<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Feck ye not Adrian,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
    MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>LISTAGG is available to ordinary Ingres tables from 11.1.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
    MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Here is an example, largely stolen from the 11.1 SQL Reference guide…<o:p></o:p></
    span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>declare global temporary table
    employee(<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; dept varchar(20),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-
    autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; empno integer4,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
    Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; firstname varchar(20),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
    lastname&nbsp; varchar(20)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>);<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.
    0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>insert into employee values<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-
    autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ('Marketing', 101, 'Douglas', 'Cray'),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida
    Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ('Marketing', 103, 'Dong', 'Luang'),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ('Marketing', 105, 'Dennis', 'Indolay'),<
    </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ('Admin', 107, 'Sherry', 'Keller'),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><
    span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ('Admin', 109, 'Carl', 'Nader'),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&
    nbsp; ('Admin', 111, 'Ruth', 'Turret'),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ('Sales', 113, 'Andrew', 'Bonnet'),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
    MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ('Sales', 115, 'Oscar', 'Hender'),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-
    family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ('Sales', 117, 'Justin', 'Braushere'),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ('Sales', 119, '', '
    Smith');<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"
    Lucida Console"'>/* Concatenate the names of all employees, ordered by last name (LISTAGG used<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>** as a simple aggregate):<o:p><
    /o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>*/<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>
    SELECT LISTAGG(lastname)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; WITHIN GROUP (ORDER BY lastname) AS PERSONNEL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
    MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>FROM employee;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>
    <span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Will return: </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>BonnetBraushereCrayHenderIndolayKellerLuangNaderSmithTurret</span><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'
    <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So my Licence fee angst is not perturbed by this at
    least.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Marty<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><
    span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Adrian
    Williamson &lt;<a href="mailto:adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com">adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 11 February 2021 15:32<br><b>To:</b> 'Ingres and related product discussion forum' &lt;<a href="mailto:info-ingres@
    lists.planetingres.org">info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Info-ingres] Listagg.....<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>String Aggregate Functions<o:p></o:p></
    <p class=MsoNormal><b>Note:&nbsp;&nbsp;Valid for X100 tables only. – FECKERS.<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>String aggregate functions concatenate a set of string values.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>LISTAGG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
    MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If I paid a licence fee I’d be upset…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>

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  • From Adrian Williamson@21:1/5 to Martin Bowes on Fri Feb 12 09:15:44 2021
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    Oh, must be snow blind two of us missed that chapter 7 yesterday.



    Thanks for semicolon tip.



    I know where to come to get wee DB Procs written in the future me thinks.



    You like to be paid in pints, pies or both?



    EOL Ingres 11.0 January 31, 2023 – something to worry about next year.



    Given that 11.1 stops April 2023 skipping to the latest seems prudent.



    Mmm the support windows do seem to be shrinking, I see OR is on a two year cycle now down from seven.



    Yes I’ve heard about Bournemouth, used to pass it when fleeing the country to the mainland.



    Cheers



    Adrian



    From: Martin Bowes <martin.bowes@ndph.ox.ac.uk>
    Sent: 12 February 2021 08:56
    To: Adrian Williamson <adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com>; 'Ingres and related product discussion forum' <info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org>
    Subject: RE: [Info-ingres] Listagg.....



    Hi Adrian,



    * Yes well, this customer is restrained to 11.0 by the prohibitive capital costs of testing one version of Ingres to the next.

    Hate to point out to them that 11.2 is just around the corner, end of May I believe. After that 11.0 will face end of support.



    * It also appears that the licence fees are not being spent on maintaining the online documentation repository, as there is no sperate 11.1 section, or should I be looking at Actian X.11.1?

    Correct.



    * Much to my disgust I found myself looking at the database procedure syntax again and shortly after, wondering why ‘line 3’ was such a problem for the parsing of the procedure during the create process.

    Count the semicolons, or do a copydb –with_proc to extract the procedures. The latter will put comments indicating the line number into the code.



    * I think it is 20 years since I had to write a DB procedure from scratch, it reminded me that:

    1. There is no chapter called ‘Working with DB Procedures’

    The SQL reference guide has chapter 7: Understanding Database Procedures…



    2. Emma still has not delivered on making OpenROAD the database language (she said this about 20 years ago at a conference)

    I’ll let you take that up with Aunty Em. Frankly she scares me too much.



    * How is Oxford anyway? Must be a quiet without all that foreign money being launder around the streets.

    I’m sheltering in Sunny Bournemouth. And we have plenty of people loitering with ill intent around here, even in Winter.



    Marty




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    <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Oh, must be snow blind two of us missed that chapter 7 yesterday.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
    class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks for semicolon tip.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:
    &nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I know where to come to get wee DB Procs written in the future me thinks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:
    </span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>You like to be paid in pints, pies or both?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
    style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>EOL Ingres 11.0 </span>January 31, 2023 – something to worry about next year.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Given that 11.1 stops April 2023 skipping to the latest seems
    prudent.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Mmm the support windows do seem to be shrinking, I see OR is on a two year cycle now down from seven.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
    MsoNormal>Yes I’ve heard about <span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Bournemouth, used to pass it when fleeing the country to the mainland.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='
    mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><
    span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Martin Bowes &lt;martin.
    bowes@ndph.ox.ac.uk&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 12 February 2021 08:56<br><b>To:</b> Adrian Williamson &lt;adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com&gt;; 'Ingres and related product discussion forum' &lt;info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE:
    [Info-ingres] Listagg.....<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Adrian,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;
    mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yes well, this customer is restrained to 11.0
    by the prohibitive capital costs of testing one version of Ingres to the next.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hate to point out to them that 11.2 is just
    around the corner, end of May I believe. After that 11.0 will face end of support.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=
    MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It also appears that the licence fees are not being spent on maintaining the online documentation repository, as there is no sperate 11.1 section,
    or should I be looking at Actian X.11.1?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Correct.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span
    style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Much to my disgust I
    found myself looking at&nbsp; the database procedure syntax again and shortly after, wondering why ‘line 3’ was such a problem for the parsing of the procedure during the create process.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-
    left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Count the semicolons, or do a copydb –with_proc to extract the procedures. The latter will put comments indicating the line number into the code.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
    MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think
    it is 20 years since I had to write a DB procedure from scratch, it reminded me that:<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><span style='mso-fareast-
    language:EN-US'>There is no chapter called ‘Working with DB Procedures’<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The SQL reference guide has chapter 7:&nbsp;
    Understanding Database Procedures…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=2 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style=
    'margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Emma still has not delivered on making OpenROAD the database language (she said this about 20 years ago at a conference)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal
    style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’ll let you take that up with Aunty Em. Frankly she scares me too much.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:
    &nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#1F497D;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>How is Oxford anyway?</span><span style='mso-
    fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><span style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Must be a quiet without all that foreign money being launder around the streets.</span><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=
    MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’m sheltering in Sunny Bournemouth. And we have plenty of people loitering with ill intent around here, even in Winter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>
    <span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Marty</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>

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  • From Karl Schendel@21:1/5 to Adrian Williamson on Fri Feb 12 12:08:54 2021
    To: info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org (Ingres and related product discussion forum)

    On Feb 12, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Adrian Williamson <adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com> wrote:

    I think that was the afternoon session of the IUG-UK - were you all on the sauce* at lunch?

    Tut Tut.

    I'm thinking of one of the big engineering conferences. I guess the enthusiasm carried forward
    a bit. We may have talked ourselves into thinking it was a thing. (It's still not a terrible idea, in
    theory at least.)

    As for "sauce at lunch", we're a global company. "What is lunch?", asked Pilate.


    I was still in my early thirties back then, don’t recall a lot of detail, I may have headed home on the bike after the conference.

    Sauce = Liquor = Sauce

    -----Original Message-----
    From: info-ingres-bounces@lists.planetingres.org <info-ingres-bounces@lists.planetingres.org> On Behalf Of Karl Schendel
    Sent: 12 February 2021 16:36
    To: Adrian Williamson <adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com>; Ingres and related product discussion forum <info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org>
    Subject: Re: [Info-ingres] Listagg.....


    Adrian Williamson <adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com> wrote:

    • Emma still has not delivered on making OpenROAD the database
    language (she said this about 20 years ago at a conference)

    Tell you what, you supply Engineering wth the amount of liquor that was being consumed when that statement was made, we'll see what we can do!

    I remember that discussion, which is remarkable because even the next day, I didn't remember much else from that evening...

    Karl


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  • From Karl Schendel@21:1/5 to Adrian Williamson on Fri Feb 12 11:36:27 2021
    To: info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org (Ingres and related product discussion forum)

    Adrian Williamson <adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com> wrote:

    • Emma still has not delivered on making OpenROAD the database language (she said this about 20 years ago at a conference)

    Tell you what, you supply Engineering wth the amount of liquor that was being consumed when that
    statement was made, we'll see what we can do!

    I remember that discussion, which is remarkable because even the next day, I didn't remember
    much else from that evening...

    Karl

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  • From Adrian Williamson@21:1/5 to Karl Schendel on Fri Feb 12 17:03:33 2021
    To: info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org (Ingres and related product discussion forum)

    I think that was the afternoon session of the IUG-UK - were you all on the sauce* at lunch?

    Tut Tut.

    I was still in my early thirties back then, don’t recall a lot of detail, I may have headed home on the bike after the conference.

    Sauce = Liquor = Sauce

    -----Original Message-----
    From: info-ingres-bounces@lists.planetingres.org <info-ingres-bounces@lists.planetingres.org> On Behalf Of Karl Schendel
    Sent: 12 February 2021 16:36
    To: Adrian Williamson <adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com>; Ingres and related product discussion forum <info-ingres@lists.planetingres.org>
    Subject: Re: [Info-ingres] Listagg.....


    Adrian Williamson <adrian.williamson@rationalcommerce.com> wrote:

    • Emma still has not delivered on making OpenROAD the database language (she said this about 20 years ago at a conference)

    Tell you what, you supply Engineering wth the amount of liquor that was being consumed when that statement was made, we'll see what we can do!

    I remember that discussion, which is remarkable because even the next day, I didn't remember much else from that evening...

    Karl


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