Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 (£12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers
has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
This makes perfect sense !
But this is the same class of statistics that tells you that milk is
causing accidents since the number of children in injured in car
accidents in an area is direct proportional to the consumption of milk
in the same area.
In article <_9B1B.213777$gM7.90022@fx44.am4>, per.s.sandberg@bahnhof.se says...
This makes perfect sense !
But this is the same class of statistics that tells you that milk is
causing accidents since the number of children in injured in car
accidents in an area is direct proportional to the consumption of milk
in the same area.
OK, so tell us what is the third factor that results in programmers who
use spaces being paid more than programmers who use tabs.
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 (£12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers
has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
On 6/18/2017 6:45 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers
has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
In article <_9B1B.213777$gM7.90022@fx44.am4>, per.s.sandberg@bahnhof.se says...
This makes perfect sense !
But this is the same class of statistics that tells you that milk is
causing accidents since the number of children in injured in car
accidents in an area is direct proportional to the consumption of milk
in the same area.
OK, so tell us what is the third factor that results in programmers who use spaces being paid more than programmers who use tabs.
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
This makes perfect sense !
But this is the same class of statistics that tells you that milk is
causing accidents since the number of children in injured in car
accidents in an area is direct proportional to the consumption of milk
in the same area.
On 19/6/2017 9:19 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
It's called a keyboard macro, well-known in the world computer gaming >keyboards and mouses. :)
It's called a keyboard macro, well-known in the world computer gaming
keyboards and mouses. :)
I seem to recall it being a standard option in the editor our
programmers used, something like "Fill tabs with spaces y/N"
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers
has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
.... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
OK, so tell us what is the third factor that results in programmers who use >> spaces being paid more than programmers who use tabs.
IQ
Tab characters are annoying. They messes the cursor's column position when it's being moved up/down and through the middle of the non existing space which was generated by the tab character.
In article <oi78k3$hb4$1@dont-email.me>, invalid@invalid.invalid says...
On 6/18/2017 6:45 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 >>> (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers
has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when
hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of >>> these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor
expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
That's what he said.
However generally speaking an editor that is set up to insert tabs has no problem _displaying_ code that was indented with spaces.
In article <_9B1B.213777$gM7.90022@fx44.am4>, per.s.sandberg@bahnhof.se says...
This makes perfect sense !
But this is the same class of statistics that tells you that milk is
causing accidents since the number of children in injured in car
accidents in an area is direct proportional to the consumption of milk
in the same area.
OK, so tell us what is the third factor that results in programmers who use spaces being paid more than programmers who use tabs.
On 6/18/2017 7:23 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article <oi78k3$hb4$1@dont-email.me>, invalid@invalid.invalid says...
On 6/18/2017 6:45 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 >>> (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers >>> has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when
hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of >>> these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor
expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
That's what he said.
However generally speaking an editor that is set up to insert tabs has no problem _displaying_ code that was indented with spaces.
For some reason I was thinking of the following video clip from the
Silicon Valley series on HBO:
https://youtu.be/SsoOG6ZeyUI
This person actually presses the damn space key n times, where n is the number of spaces. WOW!
;^)
In article <oi997u$efv$2@dont-email.me>, invalid@invalid.invalid says...
On 6/18/2017 7:23 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article <oi78k3$hb4$1@dont-email.me>, invalid@invalid.invalid says... >>>>
On 6/18/2017 6:45 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 >>>>> (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers >>>>> has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent >>>>> code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work. >>>>>
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when >>>>> hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of >>>>> these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they >>>>> were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor >>>>> expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
That's what he said.
However generally speaking an editor that is set up to insert tabs has no >>> problem _displaying_ code that was indented with spaces.
For some reason I was thinking of the following video clip from the
Silicon Valley series on HBO:
https://youtu.be/SsoOG6ZeyUI
This person actually presses the damn space key n times, where n is the
number of spaces. WOW!
;^)
If the series is all like that I'm glad I never watched it. There's something _wrong_ with that boy.
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn
$15,370 (£12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
Which leads me to the conclusion that the origin of a lot of problems is
the fact that we save "source" files that are used as-is both for
human presentation/edition and for machine processing (compiling). I
would propose the alternative to save the programs eg. in the form of an abstract syntactic tree (let's say lisp S-expressions), and each time it
is loaded in an IDE/editor, it would be unparsed into the specific
syntactic and layout/indenting preferences of the programmer; and when
saved, the programmer specific syntax would be parsed, and the
S-expression syntactic tree would be saved to the file. Machine
processing can use directly these S-expression forms.
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers
has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
This makes perfect sense !
But this is the same class of statistics that tells you that milk is
causing accidents since the number of children in injured in car
accidents in an area is direct proportional to the consumption of milk
in the same area.
In article <_9B1B.213777$gM7.90022@fx44.am4>, per.s.sandberg@bahnhof.se says...
This makes perfect sense !
But this is the same class of statistics that tells you that milk is
causing accidents since the number of children in injured in car
accidents in an area is direct proportional to the consumption of milk
in the same area.
OK, so tell us what is the third factor that results in programmers who
use spaces being paid more than programmers who use tabs.
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers
has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
On 6/18/2017 6:45 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers
has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
In article <_9B1B.213777$gM7.90022@fx44.am4>, per.s.sandberg@bahnhof.se says...
This makes perfect sense !
But this is the same class of statistics that tells you that milk is
causing accidents since the number of children in injured in car
accidents in an area is direct proportional to the consumption of milk
in the same area.
OK, so tell us what is the third factor that results in programmers who use spaces being paid more than programmers who use tabs.
This makes perfect sense !
But this is the same class of statistics that tells you that milk is
causing accidents since the number of children in injured in car
accidents in an area is direct proportional to the consumption of milk
in the same area.
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
On 19/6/2017 9:19 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
It's called a keyboard macro, well-known in the world computer gaming >keyboards and mouses. :)
It's called a keyboard macro, well-known in the world computer gaming
keyboards and mouses. :)
I seem to recall it being a standard option in the editor our
programmers used, something like "Fill tabs with spaces y/N"
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers
has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
.... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
Tab characters are annoying. They messes the cursor's column position when it's being moved up/down and through the middle of the non existing space which was generated by the tab character.
OK, so tell us what is the third factor that results in programmers who use >> spaces being paid more than programmers who use tabs.
IQ
In article <oi78k3$hb4$1@dont-email.me>, invalid@invalid.invalid says...
On 6/18/2017 6:45 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 >>> (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers
has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when
hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of >>> these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor
expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
That's what he said.
However generally speaking an editor that is set up to insert tabs has no problem _displaying_ code that was indented with spaces.
On 6/18/2017 7:23 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article <oi78k3$hb4$1@dont-email.me>, invalid@invalid.invalid says...
On 6/18/2017 6:45 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 >>> (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers >>> has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent
code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work.
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when
hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of >>> these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they
were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor
expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
That's what he said.
However generally speaking an editor that is set up to insert tabs has no problem _displaying_ code that was indented with spaces.
For some reason I was thinking of the following video clip from the
Silicon Valley series on HBO:
https://youtu.be/SsoOG6ZeyUI
This person actually presses the damn space key n times, where n is the number of spaces. WOW!
;^)
In article <_9B1B.213777$gM7.90022@fx44.am4>, per.s.sandberg@bahnhof.se says...
This makes perfect sense !
But this is the same class of statistics that tells you that milk is
causing accidents since the number of children in injured in car
accidents in an area is direct proportional to the consumption of milk
in the same area.
OK, so tell us what is the third factor that results in programmers who use spaces being paid more than programmers who use tabs.
In article <oi997u$efv$2@dont-email.me>, invalid@invalid.invalid says...
On 6/18/2017 7:23 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article <oi78k3$hb4$1@dont-email.me>, invalid@invalid.invalid says... >>>>
On 6/18/2017 6:45 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn $15,370 >>>>> (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers >>>>> has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
The survey found the salary difference stretched across different
languages, countries and experience levels.
The debate over whether it is better to use spaces or tabs to indent >>>>> code has raged among programmers for years.
Indents act like paragraph markers and help define how programs work. >>>>>
The result was "surprising," said David Robinson, data scientist at
Stack Overflow which carried out the survey of 12,400 developers.
'Pepsi or Coke question'
... more ....
Whether tabs or spaces were used could have an impact, he said, when >>>>> hand-written code was turned into working software. This process is
handled by a separate program called an interpreter or compiler. Some of >>>>> these can crash if they encounter something, such as a tab, when they >>>>> were only expecting spaces.
Professional developers typically set up their coding editor to use
either tabs or spaces to show the relationships between functional
elements, he said. Code can get harder to read if viewed in an editor >>>>> expecting tabs and getting spaces or vice versa.
What about setting up the single press of the tab key to insert n
spaces? ;^)
That's what he said.
However generally speaking an editor that is set up to insert tabs has no >>> problem _displaying_ code that was indented with spaces.
For some reason I was thinking of the following video clip from the
Silicon Valley series on HBO:
https://youtu.be/SsoOG6ZeyUI
This person actually presses the damn space key n times, where n is the
number of spaces. WOW!
;^)
If the series is all like that I'm glad I never watched it. There's something _wrong_ with that boy.
Computer programmers who use spaces as part of their coding earn
$15,370 (12,000) more per year than those who use tabs, a survey of developers has revealed.
Full story: <http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40302410>
Which leads me to the conclusion that the origin of a lot of problems is
the fact that we save "source" files that are used as-is both for
human presentation/edition and for machine processing (compiling). I
would propose the alternative to save the programs eg. in the form of an abstract syntactic tree (let's say lisp S-expressions), and each time it
is loaded in an IDE/editor, it would be unparsed into the specific
syntactic and layout/indenting preferences of the programmer; and when
saved, the programmer specific syntax would be parsed, and the
S-expression syntactic tree would be saved to the file. Machine
processing can use directly these S-expression forms.
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