Most of this followup is a personal message from me to jacob navia.
Most other readers of this newsgroup probably won't find it useful
-- except for one thing. I have found some (mostly minor) bugs in
lcc-win. If any users of lcc-win other than jacob are interested in
knowing about them, I'm willing to spend some time putting together
a report and posting a link here. jacob himself obviously isn't
interested (for whatever reasons), but lcc-win users might be.
If I don't get a response, I'll just drop it.
jacob navia <
jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> writes:
Le 19/03/2018 à 17:46, Keith Thompson a écrit :
I have a collection of rather odd C programs that have revealed a
handful of bugs on lcc-win. At least some of them could plausibly
affect real-world code.
The name of this guy is Thompson.
Correct, as anyone could have figured out from the message headers,
but feel free to call me Keith, just as I've always tried to address
you in the way you seem to prefer.
He, and his friend Heathfield started
a campaign against lcc-win some years ago.
Not true.
I was a spammer, and even I supported C99, what is not portable, they said.
I don't believe I've ever called you a spammer.
I have at times pointed out that code that depended on C99-specific
features was less portable than code that didn't. That's far
less true now than it was at the time I said it. My point was
simply to encourage awareness of the issue, not to denigrate C99
(or, later, C11). You somehow interpreted my factual statements
and honest opinions as a personal attack on you and/or lcc-win.
They were never intended that way. And after all these years,
you still haven't gotten over it.
[...]
Don't know why now he sends me messages and wants to talk with me, or
that I should answer the stuff he says.
I recently acquired a new laptop running Windows 10, after not
using Windows at all for a number of years. I decided to install
lcc-win on it, just to play with it. I ran into some minor issues
and thought you might want to know about them.
I occasionally find bugs in some of the software I use, and when I
do I try to report them. I consider this a favor to the maintainers
of those software packages.
Somehow a bug report seems to you like a personal attack. I am
honestly mystified by that.
He says that I have killfiled him. But he is in good health, I suppose,
since he sends me regularly messages and messages of stuff that is
boring to get drowned on it.
You do know what "killfiled" means, don't you? It has nothing to do
with my health. I speculated, given your lack of response to my
messages, that you might have configured your newsreader and/or e-mail
system to discard messages from me. You would have been perfectly
entitled to do so, of course, but if you had I would have liked to know
about it so I could avoid wasting my time.
Last bug report of Mr Thompson about lcc-win:
<quote>
I think the problem is that the compiler is defining __STDC_LIB_EXT1__
as an empty token sequence. My reading of 6.10.8.3 is that it must
either be defined as 201112L or left undefined. (The value is given incorrectly in N1570 and in the C11 standard, but is corrected in C11
TC1.)
<end quote>
Yes. Is there a problem with that bug report? It's not a major
problem, and it's easy enough to work around it, so I certainly
don't expect you to drop everything to fix it, but you could at
least have acknowledged it.
I am doing other things now, really can't handle that bug in the
foresseable future because is legal stuff that doesn't interest any one,
at least not me.
It interests legalist people that have memorized the standard that they
were qualifying of "non-portable" for years.
Like Mr Thompson.
One of the bugs I've found more recently is in the handling of
certain printf formats for integer output. It is, as I said,
something that could plausibly show up in real-world code. Since
you're obviously not interested in hearing from me, neither you
nor your users will receive the benefit of the (admittedly minor)
work I've done to find it and a few other bugs and narrow down the
test cases.
You've decided for some reason that I'm your enemy. I'm not.
I do find you supremely annoying at times, but only because of the
attitude you display towards me.
I was honestly trying to be helpful. I won't waste my time doing
so in the future.
Bye.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith)
kst-u@mib.org <
http://www.ghoti.net/~kst> Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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