• Flakey Video Output

    From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 19:20:49 2023
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    When I turn one of my computers on, the video output is sometimes not
    there, and sometimes is. Computer always boots up normally, making the introductory sound of windows coming up, etc. But it is exactly like
    there's no monitor attached. It's not the cable or monitor. That much
    I've tested.

    And on some other occasions the screen appears normally when I turn the computer on, and if I keep turning the computer off and then on screen
    always appears. On occasions that it won't come up, no matter how many
    times I turn the computer off and on, screen won't come up.

    What could it be? Bios? Graphics card? The round 3 volt button battery?
    The electronics on MB itself? Anything like that anybody here
    experienced? This is the first for me. It can't be virus cause that
    computer is hermetically isolated from internet.

    I tested the battery, it is still at least 3 volts. Should it be 5 volts?

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  • From Relf@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 28 17:34:00 2023
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    Likely, your motherboard is shot.

    You can connect your monitor to your motherboard and/or your graphics card.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Relf on Thu Sep 28 23:58:20 2023
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    On 9/28/2023 7:34 PM, Relf wrote:
    Likely, your motherboard is shot.

    You can connect your monitor to your motherboard and/or your graphics card.


    The monitor only has DVI and another kind of port that looks like HDMI
    but one side is square, not clipped. Only the graphics card has those
    ports. The computer itself doesn't.

    I could buy a DVI to usb, or DVI to VGA cable and see if that resolves
    the issue, if it is the graphics card that's going bad.

    What is a "shot" motherboard?

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Sep 29 00:29:31 2023
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    On 9/28/23 23:58, Physfitfreak wrote:
    What is a "shot" motherboard?

    A dead motherboard.
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  • From chrisv@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Fri Sep 29 06:45:00 2023
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    Physfitfreak wrote:

    The monitor only has DVI and another kind of port that looks like HDMI
    but one side is square, not clipped.

    That would be DisplayPort.

    Only the graphics card has those
    ports. The computer itself doesn't.

    I could buy a DVI to usb, or DVI to VGA cable and see if that resolves
    the issue, if it is the graphics card that's going bad.

    What is a "shot" motherboard?

    You really don't have much of a clue, do you?

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  • From Relf@21:1/5 to FitFreak on Fri Sep 29 06:26:49 2023
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    FitFreak asked me:
    What is a "shot" motherboard ?

    If your motherboard proper doesn't have an HTML port . . .
    Pull out your AK-47, aim for the center of the board & fire.

    I could buy a DVI to usb, or DVI to VGA cable and see
    if that resolves the issue, if it is the graphics card that's going bad.

    No, you need a new motherboard,
    one that accepts M.2 NVMe memory cards.

    If you can't afford it, there are places that recycle/refurbish old PCs.
    مع السلامة

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Relf on Fri Sep 29 20:36:50 2023
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    On 9/29/2023 8:26 AM, Relf wrote:
    No, you need a new motherboard,
    one that accepts M.2 NVMe memory cards.


    That sounds like one of your juvenile dreams. Don't project.

    If it had anything to do with MB first time that it happend, 2 years
    back, it would steadily get worse. But it only happened once back then
    and it continued working without any such issues.

    Till about two weeks back. Now it is about once every other day.

    I need an explanation from you for the reason behind doxing me. Come up
    with one so I don't take further actions. Nothing important, but I may
    do something about it.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to chrisv on Fri Sep 29 20:31:41 2023
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    On 9/29/2023 6:45 AM, chrisv wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    The monitor only has DVI and another kind of port that looks like HDMI
    but one side is square, not clipped.

    That would be DisplayPort.

    Only the graphics card has those
    ports. The computer itself doesn't.

    I could buy a DVI to usb, or DVI to VGA cable and see if that resolves
    the issue, if it is the graphics card that's going bad.

    What is a "shot" motherboard?

    You really don't have much of a clue, do you?



    Hence fielding my questions to gather data. Do you have an input?

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  • From Rockinghorse Winner@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Sep 30 03:45:30 2023
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2023-09-29, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:

    When I turn one of my computers on, the video output is sometimes not
    there, and sometimes is. Computer always boots up normally, making the introductory sound of windows coming up, etc. But it is exactly like
    there's no monitor attached. It's not the cable or monitor. That much
    I've tested.

    And on some other occasions the screen appears normally when I turn the computer on, and if I keep turning the computer off and then on screen
    always appears. On occasions that it won't come up, no matter how many
    times I turn the computer off and on, screen won't come up.

    What could it be? Bios? Graphics card? The round 3 volt button battery?
    The electronics on MB itself? Anything like that anybody here
    experienced? This is the first for me. It can't be virus cause that
    computer is hermetically isolated from internet.

    I tested the battery, it is still at least 3 volts. Should it be 5 volts?




    Def sounds hardware related. But maybe not.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Rockinghorse Winner on Fri Sep 29 23:29:51 2023
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 9/29/2023 10:45 PM, Rockinghorse Winner wrote:
    On 2023-09-29, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:

    When I turn one of my computers on, the video output is sometimes not
    there, and sometimes is. Computer always boots up normally, making the
    introductory sound of windows coming up, etc. But it is exactly like
    there's no monitor attached. It's not the cable or monitor. That much
    I've tested.

    And on some other occasions the screen appears normally when I turn the
    computer on, and if I keep turning the computer off and then on screen
    always appears. On occasions that it won't come up, no matter how many
    times I turn the computer off and on, screen won't come up.

    What could it be? Bios? Graphics card? The round 3 volt button battery?
    The electronics on MB itself? Anything like that anybody here
    experienced? This is the first for me. It can't be virus cause that
    computer is hermetically isolated from internet.

    I tested the battery, it is still at least 3 volts. Should it be 5 volts?




    Def sounds hardware related. But maybe not.



    Strange about it is that when it happens, farther turning it off and on
    does not work. I have to come to the computer next day, then it would
    sometime work no matter how many time I turn it off and on. A heating
    problem perhaps, requiring hours to cool? Or a charge accumulation
    somewhere requiring several hours to dissipate? I've never had this
    problem before.

    Two years back it once acted like this but just for one occasion. Then
    never happened till some 10 days back and this time it has kind of
    stayed like that.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Sep 30 13:06:57 2023
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 9/29/2023 11:29 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/29/2023 10:45 PM, Rockinghorse Winner wrote:
    On 2023-09-29, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:

    When I turn one of my computers on, the video output is sometimes not
    there, and sometimes is. Computer always boots up normally, making the
    introductory sound of windows coming up, etc. But it is exactly like
    there's no monitor attached. It's not the cable or monitor. That much
    I've tested.

    And on some other occasions the screen appears normally when I turn the
    computer on, and if I keep turning the computer off and then on screen
    always appears. On occasions that it won't come up, no matter how many
    times I turn the computer off and on, screen won't come up.

    What could it be? Bios? Graphics card? The round 3 volt button battery?
    The electronics on MB itself? Anything like that anybody here
    experienced? This is the first for me. It can't be virus cause that
    computer is hermetically isolated from internet.

    I tested the battery, it is still at least 3 volts. Should it be 5
    volts?




    Def sounds hardware related. But maybe not.



    Strange about it is that when it happens, farther turning it off and on
    does not work. I have to come to the computer next day, then it would sometime work no matter how many time I turn it off and on. A heating
    problem perhaps, requiring hours to cool? Or a charge accumulation
    somewhere requiring several hours to dissipate? I've never had this
    problem before.

    Two years back it once acted like this but just for one occasion. Then
    never happened till some 10 days back and this time it has kind of
    stayed like that.


    Ok, I think I have found a pattern. Every time when I'm done and turn
    the computer off _and_ turn the electricity off to the entire set
    (computer, monitor, speakers, surge protector), 24 hours later the
    system will turn on normally after I connect the electricity to the
    system. But, now I'm pretty sure, when I leave the electricity to the
    system on after turning the computer off, then 24 hours later the video
    signals to the monitor is absent after turning the computer on.

    By now, I have conducted multiple tests on both scenarios mentioned
    above, carefully observing the behavior.

    So definitely something accumulates either heat or charge when
    electricity stays connected to the turned off system. What could that be?

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  • From RabidPedagog@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Sep 30 14:10:41 2023
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2023-09-30 2:06 p.m., Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/29/2023 11:29 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/29/2023 10:45 PM, Rockinghorse Winner wrote:
    On 2023-09-29, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:

    When I turn one of my computers on, the video output is sometimes not
    there, and sometimes is. Computer always boots up normally, making the >>>> introductory sound of windows coming up, etc. But it is exactly like
    there's no monitor attached. It's not the cable or monitor. That much
    I've tested.

    And on some other occasions the screen appears normally when I turn the >>>> computer on, and if I keep turning the computer off and then on screen >>>> always appears. On occasions that it won't come up, no matter how many >>>> times I turn the computer off and on, screen won't come up.

    What could it be? Bios? Graphics card? The round 3 volt button battery? >>>> The electronics on MB itself? Anything like that anybody here
    experienced? This is the first for me. It can't be virus cause that
    computer is hermetically isolated from internet.

    I tested the battery, it is still at least 3 volts. Should it be 5
    volts?




    Def sounds hardware related. But maybe not.



    Strange about it is that when it happens, farther turning it off and
    on does not work. I have to come to the computer next day, then it
    would sometime work no matter how many time I turn it off and on. A
    heating problem perhaps, requiring hours to cool? Or a charge
    accumulation somewhere requiring several hours to dissipate? I've
    never had this problem before.

    Two years back it once acted like this but just for one occasion. Then
    never happened till some 10 days back and this time it has kind of
    stayed like that.


    Ok, I think I have found a pattern. Every time when I'm done and turn
    the computer off _and_ turn the electricity off to the entire set
    (computer, monitor, speakers, surge protector), 24 hours later the
    system will turn on normally after I connect the electricity to the
    system. But, now I'm pretty sure, when I leave the electricity to the
    system on after turning the computer off, then 24 hours later the video signals to the monitor is absent after turning the computer on.

    By now, I have conducted multiple tests on both scenarios mentioned
    above, carefully observing the behavior.

    So definitely something accumulates either heat or charge when
    electricity stays connected to the turned off system. What could that be?

    I actually have a similar problem with my Zephyrus G14 laptop. There's a fingerprint sensor on it and the hardware will fail in certain
    circumstances. If the connector is already attached to the laptop and I
    plug the unit to the power plug, it will short the sensor. No fiddling
    around in the Device Manager will do anything to restore functionality,
    and I have to disable the sensor in the BIOS, then re-enable it and
    restart. However, if I plug the power adapter first and plug the
    connector to the unit after, everything works as expected.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to RabidPedagog on Sat Sep 30 14:26:16 2023
    XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 9/30/2023 1:10 PM, RabidPedagog wrote:
    On 2023-09-30 2:06 p.m., Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/29/2023 11:29 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
    On 9/29/2023 10:45 PM, Rockinghorse Winner wrote:
    On 2023-09-29, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:

    When I turn one of my computers on, the video output is sometimes not >>>>> there, and sometimes is. Computer always boots up normally, making the >>>>> introductory sound of windows coming up, etc. But it is exactly like >>>>> there's no monitor attached. It's not the cable or monitor. That much >>>>> I've tested.

    And on some other occasions the screen appears normally when I turn
    the
    computer on, and if I keep turning the computer off and then on screen >>>>> always appears. On occasions that it won't come up, no matter how many >>>>> times I turn the computer off and on, screen won't come up.

    What could it be? Bios? Graphics card? The round 3 volt button
    battery?
    The electronics on MB itself? Anything like that anybody here
    experienced? This is the first for me. It can't be virus cause that
    computer is hermetically isolated from internet.

    I tested the battery, it is still at least 3 volts. Should it be 5
    volts?




    Def sounds hardware related. But maybe not.



    Strange about it is that when it happens, farther turning it off and
    on does not work. I have to come to the computer next day, then it
    would sometime work no matter how many time I turn it off and on. A
    heating problem perhaps, requiring hours to cool? Or a charge
    accumulation somewhere requiring several hours to dissipate? I've
    never had this problem before.

    Two years back it once acted like this but just for one occasion.
    Then never happened till some 10 days back and this time it has kind
    of stayed like that.


    Ok, I think I have found a pattern. Every time when I'm done and turn
    the computer off _and_ turn the electricity off to the entire set
    (computer, monitor, speakers, surge protector), 24 hours later the
    system will turn on normally after I connect the electricity to the
    system. But, now I'm pretty sure, when I leave the electricity to the
    system on after turning the computer off, then 24 hours later the
    video signals to the monitor is absent after turning the computer on.

    By now, I have conducted multiple tests on both scenarios mentioned
    above, carefully observing the behavior.

    So definitely something accumulates either heat or charge when
    electricity stays connected to the turned off system. What could that be?

    I actually have a similar problem with my Zephyrus G14 laptop. There's a fingerprint sensor on it and the hardware will fail in certain
    circumstances. If the connector is already attached to the laptop and I
    plug the unit to the power plug, it will short the sensor. No fiddling
    around in the Device Manager will do anything to restore functionality,
    and I have to disable the sensor in the BIOS, then re-enable it and
    restart. However, if I plug the power adapter first and plug the
    connector to the unit after, everything works as expected.


    Weird. Some residual current between computer and power adapter might be continuing after unplugging from wall, causing this. But at least time
    is not a factor in your case. In my case, I have to wait 24 hours each
    time to see any change of behavior.

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