• Simulating halt deciders

    From olcott@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 9 18:22:43 2023
    XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic

    A simulating halt decider (SHD) correctly predicts what the behavior of
    its input would be if it never aborted the simulation of this input. It
    does this by correctly recognizing several non-halting behavior patterns
    in a finite number of steps of correct simulation. Inputs that do
    terminate are simply simulated until they complete.

    *The meaning of these words prove that they are true*
    Whenever a simulating halt decider correctly predicts that it must abort
    the simulation of its input to prevent the infinite simulation of this
    input it is always necessarily correct to reject this input as non-
    halting.

    H(D,D)==0 indicates that H is asserting the verified fact that D(D)
    would never stop running unless H aborts its simulation of D.

    After a H modifies the behavior of D(D) by aborting its simulation of D
    the subsequent behavior of D(D) no longer an accurate measure of its
    actual behavior.


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  • From Richard Damon@21:1/5 to olcott on Thu Mar 9 20:31:32 2023
    XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic

    On 3/9/23 7:22 PM, olcott wrote:
    A simulating halt decider (SHD) correctly predicts what the behavior of
    its input would be if it never aborted the simulation of this input. It
    does this by correctly recognizing several non-halting behavior patterns
    in a finite number of steps of correct simulation. Inputs that do
    terminate are simply simulated until they complete.

    *The meaning of these words prove that they are true*
    Whenever a simulating halt decider correctly predicts that it must abort
    the simulation of its input to prevent the infinite simulation of this
    input it is always necessarily correct to reject this input as non-
    halting.

    A LIE.

    The meaning of Halting refers to the actual behavior of the ACTUAL
    machine directly executed

    You above statement refers to a simulation of that machine.

    Since Simulation is NOT "Actual Executed", it isn't "By the meaning of
    the words".

    You are thus also proved to be a Hypocrite, as this has been pointed out before, and since you insist that for a statment to be true, it must be provable by a link via semantic conections from the "Truth Makers" of
    the system, you refusal to do that, shows you are just a Hypocrite.


    H(D,D)==0 indicates that H is asserting the verified fact that D(D)
    would never stop running unless H aborts its simulation of D.

    So, you admit that your Simulating Halt Decider isn't an actual Halt
    Decider as those need to report on the ACTUAL BEHAVIOR of the ACTUAL
    MACHINE, which you admit is Halting.

    Or you are just a LIAR.


    After a H modifies the behavior of D(D) by aborting its simulation of D
    the subsequent behavior of D(D) no longer an accurate measure of its
    actual behavior.



    Programs can't "modify" the behavior of other programs.

    H aborting its simulation of the input D,D doesn't do ANYTHING to the
    actual behavor of the program D(D) which was ALWAYS just based on the
    direct execution of the code of D which calls the actual H that exists,
    which you just said returns 0, so D(D) Halts.

    You are just proving you don't understand how programs work, or what "Simulation" actually means.

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