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    From olcott@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 15 16:16:59 2022
    XPost: comp.theory, comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++

    André Isaak, Ben Bacarisse, Mike Terry, Dennis Bush, Richard Damon all
    take the position against this tautology:

    They all take the position that the fact that the input to H(P,P) is non-halting is not an entirely sufficient reason for H to report that
    its input is non-halting.






    Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested simulation (V5)

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/359984584_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation_V5




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    Copyright 2022 Pete Olcott

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    Genius hits a target no one else can see."
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  • From olcott@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 16 10:26:27 2022
    XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math

    André Isaak, Ben Bacarisse, Mike Terry, Dennis Bush, Richard Damon all
    take the position against this tautology:

    They all take the position that the fact that the input to H(P,P) is non-halting is not an entirely sufficient reason for H to report that
    its input is non-halting.

    The simulated input to H(P,P) cannot possibly reach its own final state
    of [00000970] it keeps repeating [00000956] to [00000961] until aborted.

    _P()
    [00000956](01) 55 push ebp
    [00000957](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
    [00000959](03) 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
    [0000095c](01) 50 push eax // push P
    [0000095d](03) 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
    [00000960](01) 51 push ecx // push P
    [00000961](05) e8c0feffff call 00000826 // call H(P,P)
    The above keeps repeating until aborted

    [00000966](03) 83c408 add esp,+08
    [00000969](02) 85c0 test eax,eax
    [0000096b](02) 7402 jz 0000096f
    [0000096d](02) ebfe jmp 0000096d
    [0000096f](01) 5d pop ebp
    [00000970](01) c3 ret // final state.
    Size in bytes:(0027) [00000970]

    computation that halts … the Turing machine will halt whenever it enters
    a final state. (Linz:1990:234)



    Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested simulation (V5)

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/359984584_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation_V5

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    Copyright 2022 Pete Olcott

    "Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
    Genius hits a target no one else can see."
    Arthur Schopenhauer

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