• Re: Refuting the Peter Linz Halting Problem Proof V5 [ criteria ]

    From olcott@21:1/5 to Richard Damon on Tue Mar 22 18:29:33 2022
    XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math

    On 3/22/2022 6:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
    On 3/22/22 10:53 AM, olcott wrote:
    On 3/22/2022 9:39 AM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
    olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> writes:

    Yet you cannot point out a single error in my halting problem
    refutation.

    The mistakes have been pointed out so many times that it's reasonable to >>> assume you can't see them or are simply ignoring them.  The latest
    monster error is that if (as you claim) this is true of your Ĥ:

       "Ĥ.qx maps ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ to Ĥ.qn"

    but

       "H maps ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ to H.qy"

    then Ĥ is not even a Truing machine, let alone the specific Ĥ in Linz's >>> proof.


    If the halt deciding criteria compares the finite strings of Turing
    machine descriptions as its halt deciding basis then it will find that
    H and the copy of H embedded at Ĥ.qx are not the identical (embedded_H
    is a longer finite string) thus providing the basis for H to see that
    embedded_H will transition to Ĥ.qn and halt.



    Except that inside embedded_H IS an exact copy of H, which should match
    the 'string compare' if you could possible built it.


    Yes this is correct.

    Ben's point was based on a lack of understanding the x86 machine
    architecture where otherwise identical copies of machine code will have different machines addresses that can be used as halt deciding criteria.

    Since H doesn't have a unique, or even a finite number of
    representations, it makes it hard to try to 'string compare' to find
    copies.

    The Linz proof has identical copies, alternative proofs don't even
    specify any copies.

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