• RfD: Cross-posting to comp.ai

    From Tristan Miller@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 31 03:12:53 2023
    Dear all,

    Apropos of a recent comment from someone here whose article had been automatically rejected for cross-posting, I thought I'd initiate an
    informal Request for Discussion (RfD) on the topic of cross-posting to
    comp.ai.

    While cross-posting isn't explicitly forbidden by the comp.ai. charter
    [1], "inappropriate cross-posting" is specifically mentioned in the
    rationale for it. Since I took over as moderator from David Kinny in
    November 2020, I've had the moderation software configured to
    automatically reject all cross-posted articles. (I'm not sure how David
    had his software configured. My memory is hazy but I don't recall
    seeing any cross-posted articles during his tenure.)

    Given the relatively low traffic of the group, and the relatively high signal-to-noise ratio of submissions, I'm willing to entertain
    reconfiguring how the software deals with cross-posts. There are
    basically two options:

    Option #1: Have the system continue to automatically reject all
    cross-posted articles.

    Option #2: Have the system automatically reject only those articles that
    are cross-posted to more than a certain number of groups. Messages that
    are not cross-posted, or that are cross-posted to a number of groups
    below this limit, would enter the moderation queue to be manually
    approved or rejected by the moderator.

    Do posters here have any preference as to which of these two options
    should be used in the future? If Option #2 is preferred, is there any preference as to the limit on the number of cross-posted groups?

    Regards,
    Tristan
    comp.ai moderator

    [1] https://ftp.isc.org/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/comp/comp.ai

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    Dr.-Ing. Tristan Miller, Research Scientist
    Austrian Research Institute for Artificial Intelligence (OFAI)
    Freyung 6/6, 1010 Vienna, Austria | Tel: +43 1 5336112 12 https://logological.org/ | https://punderstanding.ofai.at/

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to Tristan Miller on Thu Apr 20 14:26:15 2023
    On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 03:12:53 EDT
    Tristan Miller <tristan.miller@ofai.at> wrote:
    Given the relatively low traffic of the group, and the relatively high signal-to-noise ratio of submissions, I'm willing to entertain
    reconfiguring how the software deals with cross-posts. There are
    basically two options:

    Option #1: Have the system continue to automatically reject all
    cross-posted articles.

    Option #2: Have the system automatically reject only those articles that
    are cross-posted to more than a certain number of groups. Messages that
    are not cross-posted, or that are cross-posted to a number of groups
    below this limit, would enter the moderation queue to be manually
    approved or rejected by the moderator.

    Do posters here have any preference as to which of these two options
    should be used in the future? If Option #2 is preferred, is there any preference as to the limit on the number of cross-posted groups?

    First time I post on this group so perhaps my preference doesn't count for
    much but I would say option 2 with no limit unless it puts too much work on you.

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  • From Tristan Miller@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Mon May 15 16:43:55 2023
    Greetings.

    On 2023-05-15 22:33, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 03:12:53 EDT
    Tristan Miller <tristan.miller@ofai.at> wrote:
    There are basically two options:

    Option #1: Have the system continue to automatically reject all
    cross-posted articles.

    Option #2: Have the system automatically reject only those articles that
    are cross-posted to more than a certain number of groups.

    Have you reached a decision ?


    The response to this informal RFD has been both underwhelming and
    inconclusive. I got one vote here (namely, yours) for Option 2 and one
    vote by e-mail for Option 1. And in the thread that led to this RFD, a
    third poster wrote that "allowing cross-posts, or many cross-posts, is
    likely to result in chaos, flame-wars and worse", which could be
    interpreted as supporting either option.

    Given the lack of a clear consensus to change the moderation rules, I
    think the best course of action is to preserve the status quo for the
    time being.

    Regards,
    Tristan

    --
    Dr.-Ing. Tristan Miller, Research Scientist
    Austrian Research Institute for Artificial Intelligence (OFAI)
    Freyung 6/6, 1010 Vienna, Austria | Tel: +43 1 5336112 12 https://logological.org/ | https://punderstanding.ofai.at/

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to Tristan Miller on Mon May 15 16:33:19 2023
    On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 03:12:53 EDT
    Tristan Miller <tristan.miller@ofai.at> wrote:
    There are basically two options:

    Option #1: Have the system continue to automatically reject all
    cross-posted articles.

    Option #2: Have the system automatically reject only those articles that
    are cross-posted to more than a certain number of groups.

    Have you reached a decision ?

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