• Queens squatters flee $1 million home after stand-off with homeowner, v

    From Leroy N. Soetoro@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 22 19:24:10 2024
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    https://www.foxnews.com/us/queens-squatters-flee-1-million-home-stand-off- homeowner-visit-vigilantes-report

    Two of the three squatters who allegedly took over a woman’s $1 million
    home in Queens fled the property after recently having a tense stand-off
    with the property’s owner and facing "vigilantes" who tried to evict the illegal tenants, a new report details.

    Adele Andaloro, 47, said her property in Flushing, Queens, had been taken
    over by a group of squatters while the woman tried to sell the property
    last month. The home had been owned by Andaloro’s parents, who had left
    her the house when they died.

    This week, the Daily Mail reported that a pair of "vigilantes" had visited
    the home to confront the squatters and try to get them off the property.

    "We are looking to get this guy out," one of the men, who was wearing a pro-Trump T-shirt during the ordeal, told the Daily Mail of why they were there. "I am here to talk to him. I want to see why he is here."

    The squatters did not leave immediately after the two men appeared on the doorstep demanding answers, but two of the allegedly illegal tenants fled
    the property the next day, the Daily Mail reported. Two of the alleged squatters were seen jumping into a car while shielding their faces from
    cameras and refusing to answer any questions, the outlet reported.

    READ ON THE FOX NEWS APP

    It is unclear whether they left for good. Fox News Digital tried to reach Andaloro Thursday morning for any updates on the case.

    Another squatter said he lives there legally and will leave after he gets
    a deposit back.

    "I have no idea what is going on here with this nonsense. I’m trying to
    get my money back and just get out of here. I have nothing to do with
    this," the man, identified as Kevin Balletsy, said.

    LA SQUATTERS TAKE LUXURY HOLLYWOOD HILLS MANSION, RENT ROOMS TO ONLYFANS MODELS: REPORT

    "I have receipts saying I paid landlord and the real estate other than
    that I am no part of it," he continued in comment to the outlet. "I wash
    my hands of this, and I’m gone."

    Late last month, the homeowner had a tense stand-off with the reported squatters after she had met with a news crew for an interview outside the
    home to discuss the crime. One of the reported squatters appeared outside during the interview, and left the home's front door open. Andaloro and
    the news crew entered the house, where they found one of the alleged
    squatters asleep and some of Andaloro’s personal belongings still in the
    house.

    "This is proving everything I said, this is my furniture, these are my curtains," Andaloro said on camera to ABC 7 as she entered the home.

    "Who are you, sir? Get out of my house," she was seen telling a sleeping
    man in one of the rooms in the house.

    AMERICANS FROM COAST TO COAST TERRORIZED BY BIZARRE SQUATTING INCIDENTS IN
    2023

    The men reportedly called 911 on Andaloro as she called a locksmith to
    come over and change the locks on the reported squatters.

    Under New York City law, people can claim "squatter’s rights" on a
    property if they have lived there at least 30 days.

    Police escorted the squatters off the property, while Andaloro had a
    locksmith come in and change the locks on the home. Before leaving, police warned Andaloro that she could face legal penalties if she were to change
    the locks, because it is illegal to turn off any utilities or change the
    locks of a home where someone says they are a tenant.

    Less than 10 minutes after the locks were changed, a man claiming to be on
    a lease for the home pushed through the home's door, and police soon
    arrived at the home again, ABC 7 reported.

    ALLEGED 'SERIAL SQUATTER' FLEES HOME BUT LEAVES BEHIND TRASH, PUTRID
    STENCH: OWNER

    Police told the homeowner that "he can't be kicked out, you have to go to court" and arrested Andaloro for unlawful eviction over her changing the
    locks on the home, ABC 7 reported.

    "It’s enraging," Andaloro told ABC 7 of the ordeal. "It’s not fair that I,
    as the homeowner, have to be going through this."

    Following the arrest, the homeowner told the Daily Mail that she and her
    family were getting out of town, while calling the experience "crazy."

    REPEAT SQUATTER WITH 'WITCH'S CAULDRON' CITES RELIGION IN PROPERTY
    STANDOFF, ATTACKS COP

    "We are leaving. We are getting out of town," she told the outlet.

    Neighbors of the house are reportedly up in arms over the controversy,
    with one local, only identified as Kosta, telling the Daily Mail he’s been
    "on edge" since they arrived last month.

    "We all know what they are up to, so we’re all kind of pissed about it,"
    Kosta told the outlet Tuesday.

    'ONLYFANS' SQUATTER ALLEGEDLY INSTALLS STRIPPER POLE, TRASHES $900K HOME

    The squatters also reportedly carried out construction work on the home, according to the neighbor, who said he saw boards covering the home and
    claimed they were "doing construction on the house all night long."

    "I heard a drill and saw through my window that they were drilling holes
    into the wall and putting up boards," Kosta said.

    The squatting case follows other high-profile squatting incidents in the
    Big Apple, including a separate case in Queens where a couple and their
    child, who has Down syndrome, say they have been unable to move into their
    $2 million home due to a squatter.


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  • From Frank <"frank@21:1/5 to Leroy N. Soetoro on Fri Mar 22 19:06:34 2024
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    On 3/22/2024 3:24 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/queens-squatters-flee-1-million-home-stand-off- homeowner-visit-vigilantes-report

    Two of the three squatters who allegedly took over a woman’s $1 million home in Queens fled the property after recently having a tense stand-off
    with the property’s owner and facing "vigilantes" who tried to evict the illegal tenants, a new report details.

    Adele Andaloro, 47, said her property in Flushing, Queens, had been taken over by a group of squatters while the woman tried to sell the property
    last month. The home had been owned by Andaloro’s parents, who had left
    her the house when they died.

    This week, the Daily Mail reported that a pair of "vigilantes" had visited the home to confront the squatters and try to get them off the property.

    "We are looking to get this guy out," one of the men, who was wearing a pro-Trump T-shirt during the ordeal, told the Daily Mail of why they were there. "I am here to talk to him. I want to see why he is here."

    The squatters did not leave immediately after the two men appeared on the doorstep demanding answers, but two of the allegedly illegal tenants fled
    the property the next day, the Daily Mail reported. Two of the alleged squatters were seen jumping into a car while shielding their faces from cameras and refusing to answer any questions, the outlet reported.

    READ ON THE FOX NEWS APP

    It is unclear whether they left for good. Fox News Digital tried to reach Andaloro Thursday morning for any updates on the case.

    Another squatter said he lives there legally and will leave after he gets
    a deposit back.

    "I have no idea what is going on here with this nonsense. I’m trying to
    get my money back and just get out of here. I have nothing to do with
    this," the man, identified as Kevin Balletsy, said.

    LA SQUATTERS TAKE LUXURY HOLLYWOOD HILLS MANSION, RENT ROOMS TO ONLYFANS MODELS: REPORT

    "I have receipts saying I paid landlord and the real estate other than
    that I am no part of it," he continued in comment to the outlet. "I wash
    my hands of this, and I’m gone."

    Late last month, the homeowner had a tense stand-off with the reported squatters after she had met with a news crew for an interview outside the home to discuss the crime. One of the reported squatters appeared outside during the interview, and left the home's front door open. Andaloro and
    the news crew entered the house, where they found one of the alleged squatters asleep and some of Andaloro’s personal belongings still in the house.

    "This is proving everything I said, this is my furniture, these are my curtains," Andaloro said on camera to ABC 7 as she entered the home.

    "Who are you, sir? Get out of my house," she was seen telling a sleeping
    man in one of the rooms in the house.

    AMERICANS FROM COAST TO COAST TERRORIZED BY BIZARRE SQUATTING INCIDENTS IN 2023

    The men reportedly called 911 on Andaloro as she called a locksmith to
    come over and change the locks on the reported squatters.

    Under New York City law, people can claim "squatter’s rights" on a
    property if they have lived there at least 30 days.

    Police escorted the squatters off the property, while Andaloro had a locksmith come in and change the locks on the home. Before leaving, police warned Andaloro that she could face legal penalties if she were to change
    the locks, because it is illegal to turn off any utilities or change the locks of a home where someone says they are a tenant.

    Less than 10 minutes after the locks were changed, a man claiming to be on
    a lease for the home pushed through the home's door, and police soon
    arrived at the home again, ABC 7 reported.

    ALLEGED 'SERIAL SQUATTER' FLEES HOME BUT LEAVES BEHIND TRASH, PUTRID
    STENCH: OWNER

    Police told the homeowner that "he can't be kicked out, you have to go to court" and arrested Andaloro for unlawful eviction over her changing the locks on the home, ABC 7 reported.

    "It’s enraging," Andaloro told ABC 7 of the ordeal. "It’s not fair that I,
    as the homeowner, have to be going through this."

    Following the arrest, the homeowner told the Daily Mail that she and her family were getting out of town, while calling the experience "crazy."

    REPEAT SQUATTER WITH 'WITCH'S CAULDRON' CITES RELIGION IN PROPERTY
    STANDOFF, ATTACKS COP

    "We are leaving. We are getting out of town," she told the outlet.

    Neighbors of the house are reportedly up in arms over the controversy,
    with one local, only identified as Kosta, telling the Daily Mail he’s been "on edge" since they arrived last month.

    "We all know what they are up to, so we’re all kind of pissed about it," Kosta told the outlet Tuesday.

    'ONLYFANS' SQUATTER ALLEGEDLY INSTALLS STRIPPER POLE, TRASHES $900K HOME

    The squatters also reportedly carried out construction work on the home, according to the neighbor, who said he saw boards covering the home and claimed they were "doing construction on the house all night long."

    "I heard a drill and saw through my window that they were drilling holes
    into the wall and putting up boards," Kosta said.

    The squatting case follows other high-profile squatting incidents in the
    Big Apple, including a separate case in Queens where a couple and their child, who has Down syndrome, say they have been unable to move into their
    $2 million home due to a squatter.



    I often look at housing costs in other locations. Could not find exact
    house but googled up a million dollar house in Queens. Squatters would
    abandon it if they had to pay the property tax of $38,000 a year. Oddly another costing twice as much was half the tax. Still enough to drive
    out any resident.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to "@frank.net on Fri Mar 22 23:44:02 2024
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    On 2024-03-22, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:

    I often look at housing costs in other locations. Could not find exact
    house but googled up a million dollar house in Queens. Squatters would abandon it if they had to pay the property tax of $38,000 a year. Oddly another costing twice as much was half the tax. Still enough to drive
    out any resident.

    Look up houses in Sunset Park Brooklyn, or literally any of the boroughs and you will find attached
    row houses going for 1 to 2 million dollars.
    I agree it's insane but that is what it is.

    <https://www.zillow.com/brooklyn-new-york-ny-11220/?searchQueryState=%7B%22pagination%22%3A%7B%7D%2C
    %22isMapVisible%22%3Atrue%2C%22mapBounds%22%3A%7B%22west%22%3A-74.08532907458495%2C%22east%22%3A-73.
    95040323229979%2C%22south%22%3A40.60984006730282%2C%22north%22%3A40.67197301468223%7D%2C%
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  • From lloyd@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 00:56:58 2024
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    On 22 Mar 2024, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some news:utl542$37c6q$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:

    I often look at housing costs in other locations. Could not find
    exact house but googled up a million dollar house in Queens.
    Squatters would abandon it if they had to pay the property tax of
    $38,000 a year. Oddly another costing twice as much was half the
    tax. Still enough to drive out any resident.

    Look up houses in Sunset Park Brooklyn, or literally any of the
    boroughs and you will find attached row houses going for 1 to 2
    million dollars. I agree it's insane but that is what it is.

    Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
    that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
    spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
    thousand fold added to it.

    <https://www.zillow.com/brooklyn-new-york-ny-11220/?searchQueryState=%7B >%22pagination%22%3A%7B%7D%2C
    %22isMapVisible%22%3Atrue%2C%22mapBounds%22%3A%7B%22west%22%3A-74.08532 907458495%2C%22east%22%3A-73. 95040323229979%2C%22south%22%3A40.60984006730282%2C%22north%22%3A40.671 97301468223%7D%2C% 22usersSearchTerm%22%3A%2211220%22%2C%22regionSelection%22%3A%5B%7B%22r egionId%22%3A62031%2C% 22regionType%22%3A7%7D%5D%2C%22filterState%22%3A%7B%22sort%22%3A%7B%22v alue%22%3A% 22globalrelevanceex%22%7D%2C%22ah%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3Atrue%7D%7D%2C%2 2isListVisible%22%3Atrue%2C% 22mapZoom%22%3A13%7D>



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  • From T@21:1/5 to pothead on Fri Mar 22 17:57:46 2024
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    On 3/22/24 16:44, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-03-22, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:

    I often look at housing costs in other locations. Could not find exact
    house but googled up a million dollar house in Queens. Squatters would
    abandon it if they had to pay the property tax of $38,000 a year. Oddly
    another costing twice as much was half the tax. Still enough to drive
    out any resident.

    Look up houses in Sunset Park Brooklyn, or literally any of the boroughs and you will find attached
    row houses going for 1 to 2 million dollars.
    I agree it's insane but that is what it is.

    <https://www.zillow.com/brooklyn-new-york-ny-11220/?searchQueryState=%7B%22pagination%22%3A%7B%7D%2C
    %22isMapVisible%22%3Atrue%2C%22mapBounds%22%3A%7B%22west%22%3A-74.08532907458495%2C%22east%22%3A-73.
    95040323229979%2C%22south%22%3A40.60984006730282%2C%22north%22%3A40.67197301468223%7D%2C%
    22usersSearchTerm%22%3A%2211220%22%2C%22regionSelection%22%3A%5B%7B%22regionId%22%3A62031%2C%
    22regionType%22%3A7%7D%5D%2C%22filterState%22%3A%7B%22sort%22%3A%7B%22value%22%3A%
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    22mapZoom%22%3A13%7D>

    Liberals have too much money.

    You'd think they could afford a security system.
    It would end their squatter problem. They
    have to be squatting for 30 days to not be
    trespassing.

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  • From T@21:1/5 to lloyd on Fri Mar 22 18:00:07 2024
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    On 3/22/24 17:56, lloyd wrote:
    Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
    that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
    spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
    thousand fold added to it.

    There is no greed in this world so insatiable
    as government greed.

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Mar 23 06:50:42 2024
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    On 3/23/24 02:31, Governor Swill wrote:
    Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do
    that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
    spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
    thousand fold added to it.

    If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

    Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.

    You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
    in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.

    But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house. https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
    RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Mar 24 10:23:59 2024
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    On 3/24/2024 9:32 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 06:50:42 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/23/24 02:31, Governor Swill wrote:
    Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do >>>> that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
    spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
    thousand fold added to it.

    If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

    Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.

    You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
    in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.

    But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
    RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

    Bullshit.

    No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
    supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
    Democrats have turned in six surpluses.

    Swill

    And Trump gave tax breaks to the wealthy and a $7trillion deficit.
    Great money manager.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 24 12:46:29 2024
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    In news:6600377e$0$876048$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> typed:

    On 3/24/2024 9:32 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 06:50:42 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/23/24 02:31, Governor Swill wrote:

    Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable
    will do that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will
    fight over spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase
    of a hundred thousand fold added to it.

    If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot
    would be IOUs.

    Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.

    You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
    in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.

    But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
    RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

    Bullshit.

    No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he
    did it with a Dem supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority
    in the Senate. Since then, two Democrats have turned in six
    surpluses.

    And Trump gave tax breaks to the wealthy and a $7trillion deficit.
    Great money manager.

    https://www.creators.com/read/stephen-moore/01/23/its-official-trumps-tax-cuts-paid-for-themselves

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Mar 24 19:28:36 2024
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    On 3/24/24 06:32, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 06:50:42 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/23/24 02:31, Governor Swill wrote:
    Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do >>>> that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
    spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
    thousand fold added to it.

    If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

    Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.

    You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
    in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.

    But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
    RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

    Bullshit.

    No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
    supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
    Democrats have turned in six surpluses.

    Swill

    Dear Swill,

    You did not list the budgets and the deficits spending versus
    what parties in charge. Guess the "Truth Ministry" left that
    crap out.

    And you missed "the Zipper's" one year balanced budget, which
    he did by doing a one time IRA transfer to Roth IRAs
    and slashing the defense budget, place our security at
    risk and ultimately leading to 911.

    ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!

    -T

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  • From Mort Adella@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 24 23:15:59 2024
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    On 3/24/2024 10:28 PM, T wrote:
    On 3/24/24 06:32, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 06:50:42 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/23/24 02:31, Governor Swill wrote:
    Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable
    will do
    that.  If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
    spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
    thousand fold added to it.

    If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would
    be IOUs.

    Hmmmmm.  Blame us for what you do.

    You have a tiny point.  Democrats and RINO's (Republican
    in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.

    But things are a changing.  Republicans are cleaning house.
    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
    RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

    Bullshit.

    No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he
    did it with a Dem
    supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate.
    Since then, two
    Democrats have turned in six surpluses.

    Swill

    Dear Swill,

       You did not list the budgets and the deficits spending versus
    what parties in charge.  Guess the "Truth Ministry" left that
    crap out.

       And you missed "the Zipper's" one year balanced budget, which
    he did by doing a one time IRA transfer to Roth IRAs
    and slashing the defense budget, place our security at
    risk and ultimately leading to 911.

       ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!

    -T



    Some good economic information here

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

    Federal budget deficits
    Blinder and Watson reported that budget deficits tended to be smaller
    under Democrats, at 2.1% potential GDP versus 2.8% potential GDP for Republicans, a difference of about 0.7 of a percentage point. They wrote
    that higher budget deficits should theoretically have boosted the
    economy more for Republicans, and therefore cannot explain the greater
    GDP growth under Democrats.[1]

    Since 1981, federal budget deficits have increased under Republican
    presidents Reagan, both Bushes and Trump, while deficits have declined
    under Democratic presidents Clinton and Obama. The economy ran surpluses
    during Clinton's last four fiscal years, the first surpluses since 1969.
    The deficit was projected to decline sharply in Joe Biden's first fiscal
    year.

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Mort Adella on Sun Mar 24 21:25:52 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 3/24/24 20:15, Mort Adella wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 10:28 PM, T wrote:
    On 3/24/24 06:32, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 06:50:42 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/23/24 02:31, Governor Swill wrote:
    Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable
    will do
    that.  If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
    spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred >>>>>> thousand fold added to it.

    If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot
    would be IOUs.

    Hmmmmm.  Blame us for what you do.

    You have a tiny point.  Democrats and RINO's (Republican
    in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.

    But things are a changing.  Republicans are cleaning house.
    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
    RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

    Bullshit.

    No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he
    did it with a Dem
    supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate.
    Since then, two
    Democrats have turned in six surpluses.

    Swill

    Dear Swill,

        You did not list the budgets and the deficits spending versus
    what parties in charge.  Guess the "Truth Ministry" left that
    crap out.

        And you missed "the Zipper's" one year balanced budget, which
    he did by doing a one time IRA transfer to Roth IRAs
    and slashing the defense budget, place our security at
    risk and ultimately leading to 911.

        ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!

    -T



    Some good economic information here

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party

    Federal budget deficits
    Blinder and Watson reported that budget deficits tended to be smaller
    under Democrats, at 2.1% potential GDP versus 2.8% potential GDP for Republicans, a difference of about 0.7 of a percentage point. They wrote
    that higher budget deficits should theoretically have boosted the
    economy more for Republicans, and therefore cannot explain the greater
    GDP growth under Democrats.[1]

    Since 1981, federal budget deficits have increased under Republican presidents Reagan, both Bushes and Trump, while deficits have declined
    under Democratic presidents Clinton

    Clinton had a republican congress.

    and Obama. The economy ran surpluses
    during Clinton's last four fiscal years, the first surpluses since 1969.
    The deficit was projected to decline sharply in Joe Biden's first fiscal year.

    Useless information unless you show what party controlled congress.
    Congress is the that sets the budget, not the president.

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  • From Alain Burger@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 06:53:31 2024
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    On 24 Mar 2024, Mort Adella <Mort@burger.com> posted some news:utqq9e$rmmk$1@dont-email.me:

    On 3/24/2024 10:28 PM, T wrote:
    On 3/24/24 06:32, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 06:50:42 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/23/24 02:31, Governor Swill wrote:
    Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable
    will do
    that.  If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
    spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a
    hundred thousand fold added to it.

    If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot
    would be IOUs.

    Hmmmmm.  Blame us for what you do.

    You have a tiny point.  Democrats and RINO's (Republican
    in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.

    But things are a changing.  Republicans are cleaning house.
    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
    RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

    Bullshit.

    No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he
    did it with a Dem
    supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate.
    Since then, two
    Democrats have turned in six surpluses.

    Swill

    Dear Swill,

       You did not list the budgets and the deficits spending versus
    what parties in charge.  Guess the "Truth Ministry" left that
    crap out.

       And you missed "the Zipper's" one year balanced budget, which
    he did by doing a one time IRA transfer to Roth IRAs
    and slashing the defense budget, place our security at
    risk and ultimately leading to 911.

       ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!

    -T



    Some good economic information here

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential _party

    Federal budget deficits
    Blinder and Watson reported that budget deficits tended to be smaller
    under Democrats, at 2.1% potential GDP versus 2.8% potential GDP for Republicans, a difference of about 0.7 of a percentage point. They
    wrote that higher budget deficits should theoretically have boosted
    the economy more for Republicans, and therefore cannot explain the
    greater GDP growth under Democrats.[1]

    Since 1981, federal budget deficits have increased under Republican presidents Reagan, both Bushes and Trump, while deficits have declined
    under Democratic presidents Clinton and Obama. The economy ran
    surpluses during Clinton's last four fiscal years, the first surpluses
    since 1969. The deficit was projected to decline sharply in Joe
    Biden's first fiscal year.

    Wikipedia...snort.

    Try a more authoritative source, not some left-wing slanted piece of crap.

    https://www.treasurydirect.gov/

    You would have flunked most basic math classes. Here's the record under Clinton at the end of each fiscal year. See how the National Debt
    increased each year of his presidency? Never once did he balance a
    budget or have a surplus.

    Fiscal
    Year Year
    Ending National Debt Deficit
    FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
    FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
    FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
    FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
    FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
    FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
    FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
    FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
    FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion

    You know how that fish story got started? Basic accounting sleight of
    hand.

    Bill Clinton and his "accounting" team simply shuffled debt from one
    debt category to another, while lying about reducing the debt /
    balancing the budget. He paid down the Public Debt while increasing the National Debt, even failing at that as evidenced by the numbers.

    In the private sector, one goes to jail for accounting fraud like that.

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  • From Dindu Nuffin@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Mar 25 07:06:42 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 06:50:42 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/23/24 02:31, Governor Swill wrote:
    Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do >>>> that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
    spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred
    thousand fold added to it.

    If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

    Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.

    You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
    in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.

    But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
    RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

    Bullshit.

    No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
    supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
    Democrats have turned in six surpluses.

    Swill


    A Democrat's budget is "massaged" so much that it usually has an orgasm.

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Mar 25 04:35:59 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 3/25/24 04:14, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 10:23:59 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

    On 3/24/2024 9:32 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 06:50:42 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/23/24 02:31, Governor Swill wrote:
    Electing spendthrift Democrats and not holding them accountable will do >>>>>> that. If there is a penny in the pot, Democrats will fight over
    spending it until it's gone with an unfunded increase of a hundred >>>>>> thousand fold added to it.

    If Republicans were running things, all you'd find in that pot would be IOUs.

    Hmmmmm. Blame us for what you do.

    You have a tiny point. Democrats and RINO's (Republican
    in name only) are both total, irresponsible spendthrifts.

    But things are a changing. Republicans are cleaning house.
    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/afb032024dAPC-800x0.jpg
    RINO need to joint the democratic party where they belong.

    Bullshit.

    No Republican has balanced a budget since Eisenhower in 1960 and he did it with a Dem
    supermajority in the House and a 2/3 Dem majority in the Senate. Since then, two
    Democrats have turned in six surpluses.

    Swill

    And Trump gave tax breaks to the wealthy and a $7trillion deficit.
    Great money manager.

    We've never had a $7T deficit. Never.

    That said, Trump packed $8.5T onto the debt in just four years. That's a an average
    annual deficit of more than $2T.

    Swill

    And WHO pray tell cdontrolled the congress?

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 14:55:37 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    In news:2d030jhadc9r0hji0nik8do7s2019neo8p@4ax.com, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 12:46:29 -0700, "max headroom"
    <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

    https://www.creators.com/read/stephen-moore/01/23/its-official-trumps-tax-cuts-paid-for-themselves

    Spendthrift Democrats? Tax cuts paid for themselves?

    Laugh laugh laugh!

    Trump added 650B - 780B *per year* to the debt while he was in office
    not counting Covid relief....

    Congress sets the budget.

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Mar 25 20:03:42 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 3/25/24 08:34, Governor Swill wrote:
    The Democrats held a veto proof majority in Eisenhower's last Senate and a supermajority
    in his last House. They held veto proof majorities in both Houses when his 1957 budget
    also balanced.

    Democrats in Eisenhower's era were more conservative than
    today's Republicans

    The Republicans held both Houses during Clinton's surplus years but they also held both
    Houses during Bush's exploding deficit years.

    House Republicans in that era were dominate by RINO's, so
    same as the Democrats.

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Mar 25 20:24:09 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 3/25/24 09:09, Governor Swill wrote:
    You are quite wrong, lame-o. Ever hear of*off* budget spending? Bush was a master at
    it.

    Bush, both of them, were the very definition of RINO's and the swamp.

    Being between RINO's/Democrats and other people's money is
    like being between the pig and the trough.

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Mar 25 20:28:29 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 3/25/24 08:19, Governor Swill wrote:
    ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!
    Go back to Mexico, asshat.

    Swill

    No clue where that comes from, do you Swill. But
    that does not stop you calling other people names.

    No doubt here shortly when you finally look it up,
    pronounce to all of us that the originator of that
    saying is responsible for deficit spending and that
    his predecessors had nothing to do with it. Love
    that 240 % inflation! Truth Ministry rules!

    I repeat: ¡Viva la libertad, carajo!

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Mar 25 20:31:06 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 3/25/24 11:07, Governor Swill wrote:
    And WHO pray tell cdontrolled the congress?
    Mostly the GOP. They had both houses his first two years. His second Congress was split
    between the Dems in the House and the Reps in the Senate. So, yeah, mostly the
    Republicans.

    Controlled by Never Trump RINO's. Look up who was
    speaker of the house. Total RINO. And he LOVED to
    spend and spend and spend.

    https://townhall.com/political-cartoons/afbranco/2024/03/20/204136

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Mar 26 03:01:17 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 3/25/24 21:49, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 20:03:42 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/25/24 08:34, Governor Swill wrote:
    The Democrats held a veto proof majority in Eisenhower's last Senate and a supermajority
    in his last House. They held veto proof majorities in both Houses when his 1957 budget
    also balanced.

    Democrats in Eisenhower's era were more conservative than
    today's Republicans

    The Republicans held both Houses during Clinton's surplus years but they also held both
    Houses during Bush's exploding deficit years.

    House Republicans in that era were dominate by RINO's, so
    same as the Democrats.

    Having lost the debate, now you're just going to start lying? Keep that up and this will
    be a short conversation.

    Eisenhower's Republicans were nowhere near as radical, reactionary and rightist as today's
    conservatives. They weren't even as conservative as Clinton's Republicans.

    Swill

    You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Mar 26 03:03:10 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 3/25/24 21:45, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 14:55:37 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

    In news:2d030jhadc9r0hji0nik8do7s2019neo8p@4ax.com, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 12:46:29 -0700, "max headroom"
    <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

    https://www.creators.com/read/stephen-moore/01/23/its-official-trumps-tax-cuts-paid-for-themselves

    Spendthrift Democrats? Tax cuts paid for themselves?

    Laugh laugh laugh!

    Trump added 650B - 780B *per year* to the debt while he was in office
    not counting Covid relief....

    Congress sets the budget.

    Then why is the right blaming Biden for the current debt expansion? Hypocrite.

    The first two years of O'Biden were full democrat control.

    The budget process is a dance between the House, Senate and Executive with the Executive
    having the most clout in actual practice.

    The biggest debt expanders of late were Bush and Trump and both had Republican Congresses.

    Swill

    You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

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  • From Skid Marks@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 26 07:55:11 2024
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    T wrote:
    On 3/25/24 09:09, Governor Swill wrote:
    You are quite wrong, lame-o.  Ever hear of*off*  budget spending?  Bush was a master at
    it.

    Bush, both of them, were the very definition of RINO's and the swamp.

    Being between RINO's/Democrats and other people's money is
    like being between the pig and the trough.




    "Look at the Crazy List of Things Illegal Immigrants Get for ‘FREE’ in Liberal Taxxachusetts"

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/look-crazy-list-things-illegal-immigrants-get-free/

    https://howiecarrshow.com/freebies-for-illegals-a-comprehensive-list/


    After working and paying taxes for 45 years, all I get from Michigan is yet another tax bill.

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Mar 26 05:01:58 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 3/26/24 03:24, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 03:03:10 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    The first two years of O'Biden were full democrat control.

    Too bad for you, the discussion wasn't about Biden, it was about which party's Presidents
    have historically turned in a surplus.

    You were trying to blame presidents for the actions of congress.
    You are trying to deflect responsibility. And no the conversation
    was not about teh president in power.


    The budget process is a dance between the House, Senate and Executive with the Executive
    having the most clout in actual practice.

    The biggest debt expanders of late were Bush and Trump and both had Republican Congresses.

    You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

    You can't handle the truth.

    You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Mar 26 06:51:50 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 3/26/24 03:39, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 03:01:17 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    You swim in a sea of lies and deceit.

    Short conversation.

    Swill

    I am sure you will get assigned something from the Truth
    Ministry that you will puke all over us in the near future.

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Mar 26 07:00:31 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics

    On 3/26/24 03:39, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 20:31:06 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/25/24 11:07, Governor Swill wrote:
    And WHO pray tell cdontrolled the congress?
    Mostly the GOP. They had both houses his first two years. His second Congress was split
    between the Dems in the House and the Reps in the Senate. So, yeah, mostly the
    Republicans.

    Controlled by Never Trump RINO's.

    https://townhall.com/political-cartoons/afbranco/2024/03/20/204136

    Trump is a RINO.

    You been smoking banana peels again? That is an
    outright lie make up by American Pravda and
    their handlers in the democratic party.
    But that did not stop you from regurgitating it.

    Next shall we hear from you about Trump colluding
    with the Russians?


    Look up who was speaker of the house. Total RINO.

    Ryan was a noted deficit hawk.

    His actions and his words were opposite. RINO's do
    that. The claim they are conservative and they
    do the opposite. Ryan was the best friend the
    democrats had. Trump got rid of him.

    And he LOVED to spend and spend and spend.

    Do you consider tax cuts "spending"?

    One of the problems is that tax cuts increase revenue
    and the democrats and RINO's spend like crazy when they
    see the new money arrive, wiping out any increase in
    revenue.

    Oh and the RINO made sure and take back as much of
    the tax cut that he could.

    There is no greed in this world as insatiable as
    government greed.

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