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On 19 Mar 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted
some news:tXlKN.541428$PuZ9.539456@fx11.iad:

On 3/19/2024 12:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad>, max.boot@lathymes.com
says...

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The disgorgement judgment against Trump is not bail, nor is it a
fine, nor is it punishment.

Then what is it?

Forcing him to cough up ill-gotten gains.

Oh?

According to the funders, Trump paid them back in full and fulfilled his contractual obligations.

What's the factual crime?

Pissing off Democrats? He's got a really good chance at winning on
appeal.

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On 19 Mar 2024, Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> posted some news:DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad:

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive balls

You think about those a lot, hunh Rudy?

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On 3/19/2024 4:09 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

On 19 Mar 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted
some news:tXlKN.541428$PuZ9.539456@fx11.iad:

On 3/19/2024 12:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad>, max.boot@lathymes.com
says...

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The disgorgement judgment against Trump is not bail, nor is it a
fine, nor is it punishment.

Then what is it?

Forcing him to cough up ill-gotten gains.

Oh?

Yes, Blowjob.

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On 2024-03-19 23:09:24 +0000, UCLA economics said:

On 19 Mar 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted
some news:tXlKN.541428$PuZ9.539456@fx11.iad:

On 3/19/2024 12:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad>, max.boot@lathymes.com
says...

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The disgorgement judgment against Trump is not bail, nor is it a
fine, nor is it punishment.

Then what is it?

Forcing him to cough up ill-gotten gains.

Oh?

According to the funders, Trump paid them back in full and fulfilled his contractual obligations.

What's the factual crime?

Using up funding that could have been granted to borrowers who weren't
lying about their financial status for one.

NY state has laws set in stone about this, one could also claim
speeding at 100 mph "isn't hurting anyone" if no one happens to be hurt.

Trump's days of being a white-collar criminal as a private citizen
flying under the radar are long over.

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"UCLA economics" <jonball@ucla.epu> wrote in message news:utd5i1$9k1$1@toxic.dizum.net...

On 19 Mar 2024, Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> posted some news:DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad:

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive balls

You think about those a lot, hunh Rudy?

Well since he has none of his own.... excessive or otherwise.

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"super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:utd6q9$13dkb$1@dont-email.me...

On 2024-03-19 23:09:24 +0000, UCLA economics said:

On 19 Mar 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted
some news:tXlKN.541428$PuZ9.539456@fx11.iad:

On 3/19/2024 12:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad>, max.boot@lathymes.com
says...

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The disgorgement judgment against Trump is not bail, nor is it a
fine, nor is it punishment.

Then what is it?

Forcing him to cough up ill-gotten gains.

Oh?

According to the funders, Trump paid them back in full and fulfilled his
contractual obligations.

What's the factual crime?

Using up funding that could have been granted to borrowers who weren't
lying about their financial status for one.

Prove that any borrower was denied because Trump got a loan,

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In article <utfkmg$1nlj3$5@dont-email.me>,
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

"super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:utd6q9$13dkb$1@dont-email.me...

On 2024-03-19 23:09:24 +0000, UCLA economics said:

On 19 Mar 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted >> some news:tXlKN.541428$PuZ9.539456@fx11.iad:

On 3/19/2024 12:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad>, max.boot@lathymes.com >>>> says...

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The disgorgement judgment against Trump is not bail, nor is it a
fine, nor is it punishment.

Then what is it?

Forcing him to cough up ill-gotten gains.

Oh?

According to the funders, Trump paid them back in full and fulfilled his >> contractual obligations.

What's the factual crime?

Using up funding that could have been granted to borrowers who weren't lying about their financial status for one.

Prove that any borrower was denied because Trump got a loan,

It stands to reason hundreds of millions that went to Trump could've
been used for truthful borrowers instead, banks only have a limited
amount of funds to disperse.

And it's moot anyway since as I said before NY has laws about lying
about your financial status, regardless of whether it "harmed anyone
else."

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In article <nm3mvihkgh9l5pb1v93vs78cmts9uur85s@4ax.com>,
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 18:23:53 -0500, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

On 2024-03-19 23:09:24 +0000, UCLA economics said:

On 19 Mar 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted >> some news:tXlKN.541428$PuZ9.539456@fx11.iad:

On 3/19/2024 12:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad>, max.boot@lathymes.com >>>> says...

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The disgorgement judgment against Trump is not bail, nor is it a
fine, nor is it punishment.

Then what is it?

Forcing him to cough up ill-gotten gains.

Oh?

According to the funders, Trump paid them back in full and fulfilled his >> contractual obligations.

What's the factual crime?

Using up funding that could have been granted to borrowers who weren't >lying about their financial status for one.

NY state has laws set in stone about this, one could also claim
speeding at 100 mph "isn't hurting anyone" if no one happens to be hurt.

Trump's days of being a white-collar criminal as a private citizen
flying under the radar are long over.

He could have avoided all this by not running for President.

Swill

Yeah, makes you think of how the world would've been different if Hitler
had been a successful artist and not dropped out of art school.

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"super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:super70s-28C478.16515620032024@reader.eternal-september.org...

In article <utfkmg$1nlj3$5@dont-email.me>,
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

"super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
news:utd6q9$13dkb$1@dont-email.me...

On 2024-03-19 23:09:24 +0000, UCLA economics said:

On 19 Mar 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut>
posted
some news:tXlKN.541428$PuZ9.539456@fx11.iad:

On 3/19/2024 12:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad>, max.boot@lathymes.com
says...

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The disgorgement judgment against Trump is not bail, nor is it a
fine, nor is it punishment.

Then what is it?

Forcing him to cough up ill-gotten gains.

Oh?

According to the funders, Trump paid them back in full and fulfilled
his
contractual obligations.

What's the factual crime?

Using up funding that could have been granted to borrowers who weren't
lying about their financial status for one.

Prove that any borrower was denied because Trump got a loan,

It stands to reason hundreds of millions that went to Trump could've
been used for truthful borrowers instead, banks only have a limited
amount of funds to disperse.

Actually, that's not true, but even if it is, that still doesn't absolve you
of showing any borrower was denied because Trump got a loan.

And it's moot anyway

IOW, you can't back up your bullshit.

since as I said before NY has laws about lying
about your financial status, regardless of whether it "harmed anyone
else."

Well, the problem is that requires an intent to defraud. It's not been shown there was any such intent, much less that any such defrauding occurred.
The loan was paid back in full, with all interest and penalties for early repayment. So who was defrauded?
Even ASSUMING Trump lied.. no defrauding took place. The loan was secured.
The loan was issued. The loan was paid back in full. No one was defrauded. Further no one has established there was any INTENT by Trump to do so.

Now, if he refused to repay the loan, and the property wasn't as he and the bank's own experts found it to be, then maybe there would be a basis for
such a case as the bank would have been defrauded, and you would only have
to establish that it was intentional.

However, the bank did it's OWN due diligence and they confirmed the value
and condition of the property. They made the loan based on their OWN
estimates of the value of the property. So even if Trump was attempting to defraud.. he didn't carry it out. That's why banks banks do their own inspections and due diligence. Nor is there any evidence at all that Trump intended to defraud on the loan.

A crime of intent where there was no crime, or intent seems like a DA
looking to enjoy the highlife with her boyfriend on the public dime.. Now
that WOULD be fraud. Indeed, IMO this case is so tainted by the DA and her 'lead investigator' that I don't see how you could possibly not throw out
the case particularly given any lack of victims, defrauding much less intent
to do so.

All I can is investors are already pulling out of New York, lest some self serving DA decided to try to prosecute them for ordinary legal business practices as they have Trump.

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On 3/20/2024 3:34 PM, scooter lied:

All I can is investors are already pulling out of New York,

That's bullshit, scooter.

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On 3/20/2024 3:34 PM, scooter lied:

"super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:super70s-28C478.16515620032024@reader.eternal-september.org...

In article <utfkmg$1nlj3$5@dont-email.me>,
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

"super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
news:utd6q9$13dkb$1@dont-email.me...

On 2024-03-19 23:09:24 +0000, UCLA economics said:

On 19 Mar 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> >> posted
some news:tXlKN.541428$PuZ9.539456@fx11.iad:

On 3/19/2024 12:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad>, max.boot@lathymes.com >>> >>>> says...

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The disgorgement judgment against Trump is not bail, nor is it a
fine, nor is it punishment.

Then what is it?

Forcing him to cough up ill-gotten gains.

Oh?

According to the funders, Trump paid them back in full and fulfilled >> his
contractual obligations.

What's the factual crime?

Using up funding that could have been granted to borrowers who weren't >>> > lying about their financial status for one.

Prove that any borrower was denied because Trump got a loan,

It stands to reason hundreds of millions that went to Trump could've
been used for truthful borrowers instead, banks only have a limited
amount of funds to disperse.

Actually, that's not true,

It is true, scooter.

Well, the problem is that requires an intent to defraud.

Attorney-General James proved that at trial, scooter.

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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote
in message news:v83pvih9hs342eotir0f7jdvpdr5a684ak@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com...

[Default] super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

In article <utfkmg$1nlj3$5@dont-email.me>,
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

"super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
news:utd6q9$13dkb$1@dont-email.me...

On 2024-03-19 23:09:24 +0000, UCLA economics said:

On 19 Mar 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut>
posted
some news:tXlKN.541428$PuZ9.539456@fx11.iad:

On 3/19/2024 12:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad>,
max.boot@lathymes.com
says...

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The disgorgement judgment against Trump is not bail, nor is it a
fine, nor is it punishment.

Then what is it?

Forcing him to cough up ill-gotten gains.

Oh?

According to the funders, Trump paid them back in full and fulfilled
his
contractual obligations.

What's the factual crime?

Using up funding that could have been granted to borrowers who weren't >>> > lying about their financial status for one.

Prove that any borrower was denied because Trump got a loan,

It stands to reason [..]

So you can't name ONE.

Gotcha.

When Rudy starts talking about his reasoning.. you know he's just talking delusions.

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"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:utfkmg$1nlj3$5@dont-email.me:

"super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:utd6q9$13dkb$1@dont-email.me...

On 2024-03-19 23:09:24 +0000, UCLA economics said:

On 19 Mar 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut>
posted some news:tXlKN.541428$PuZ9.539456@fx11.iad:

On 3/19/2024 12:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <DolKN.414306$yEgf.41625@fx09.iad>,
max.boot@lathymes.com says...

The eighth amendment reads,

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

The disgorgement judgment against Trump is not bail, nor is it a
fine, nor is it punishment.

Then what is it?

Forcing him to cough up ill-gotten gains.

Oh?

According to the funders, Trump paid them back in full and fulfilled
his contractual obligations.

What's the factual crime?

Using up funding that could have been granted to borrowers who
weren't lying about their financial status for one.

Prove that any borrower was denied because Trump got a loan,

super70s got denied for lying about income. lol!

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