• Re: When You Cherry-Pick, You've Already Lost

    From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Mar 5 08:48:42 2024
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    On 2024-03-04 19:40, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 23:22:09 -0800, Alan says...

    So according to you breaking through a door

    No.

    The act of breaking through a door is not why you idiots on the left call Jan.
    6th an insurrection. It's the goal AFTER the break through.

    The goal on January 6 was to prevent the election results from being
    certified, loser.

    How hilarious that you mention "cherry-pick[ing]"...

    ...while you cherry-pick one part of one sentence from my post.


    And no, I don't agree with the stupid question you're going to ask next.

    No, "according to me" or "so, you admit".

    No... I don't. I'm just telling you what YOU'RE trying to do. Stupid narcissist
    is so narcissistic, he thinks no one can figger him out. This is why you're called a narcissist, narcissist.

    According to me, when you cherry-pick and put things into a context that is NOT
    what the context IS, you lose.

    Context, left out:

    ... to try to SHUT DOWN A STUDENT EVENT on Feb. 26 featuring an IDF soldier.

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1762508181849210880/vid/avc1/480x848/YiiV
    hK8GV5Bz1uUm.mp4?tag=14

    Disingenuous liar.

    So trying to shut down...

    ...a STUDENT event...

    ...can be construed as insurrection...

    ...but trying to shut down the peaceful transfer of power cannot...

    ...loser?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Mar 5 11:07:59 2024
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    On 2024-03-05 10:49, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 08:48:42 -0800, Alan says...

    ...but trying to shut down the peaceful transfer of power cannot...

    Nope.

    Yup.


    Trump wanted an investigation into Democrats' cheating, which everyone with half a brain knows they did.
    He got lots of those... ...and lost every one.

    But those investigations don't consist of inciting people to break into
    the capitol.

    Trump has been adjudged by both the House and the courts of having
    engaged in insurrection, loser.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Mar 5 12:21:57 2024
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    AlleyCat wrote:
    Trump wanted an investigation into Democrats' cheating, which everyone with half a brain knows they did.

    Are you asking for a donor for another 90% of a brain?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Mar 5 16:54:12 2024
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    On 2024-03-05 12:06, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 11:07:59 -0800, Alan says...

    But those investigations don't consist of inciting people

    Show us the language of "incitement".

    I can show you the language where Trump was found to have incited an insurrection...

    ...by the US House of Representatives:

    'ARTICLE 1: INCITEMENT OF INSURRECTION

    The Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have
    the sole Power of Impeachment" and that the President "shall be removed
    from Office on Impeachment, for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or
    other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." Further, section 3 of the 14th
    Amendment to the Constitution prohibits any person who has "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against" the United States from "hold[ing] and
    office ... under the United States.' In his conduct while President of
    the United States — and in violation of his constitutional oath
    faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and,
    to the best of his ability, preserve, provide, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States and in violation of his constitutional
    duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed — Donald John
    Trump engaged in high Crimes and Misdemeanors by inciting violence
    against the Government of the United States, in that:

    On January 6, 2021, pursuant to the 12th Amendment to the Constitution
    of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, the House
    of Representatives, and the Senate met at the United States Capitol for
    a Joint Session of Congress to count the votes of the Electoral College.
    In the months preceding the Joint Session, President Trump repeatedly
    issued false statements asserting that the Presidential election results
    were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted by the
    American people or certified by State or Federal officials. Shortly
    before the Joint Session commenced, President Trump, addressed a crowd
    at the Ellipse in Washington, D.C. There, he reiterated false claims
    that "we won this election, and we won it by a landslide." He also
    willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol, such as: "if you don't
    fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore." Thus
    incited by President Trump, members of the crowd he had addressed, in an attempt to, among other objectives, interfere with the Joint Session's
    solemn constitutional duty to certify the results of the 2020
    Presidential election, unlawfully breached and vandalized the Capitol,
    injured and killed law enforcement personnel, menaced Members of
    Congress, the Vice President, and Congressional personnel, and engaged
    in other violent, deadly, destructive and seditious acts.'

    Let me pull out that last sentence:

    'Thus incited by President Trump, members of the crowd he had addressed,
    in an attempt to, among other objectives, interfere with the Joint
    Session's solemn constitutional duty to certify the results of the 2020 Presidential election, unlawfully breached and vandalized the Capitol,
    injured and killed law enforcement personnel, menaced Members of
    Congress, the Vice President, and Congressional personnel, and engaged
    in other violent, deadly, destructive and seditious acts.'

    Game, set and match, loser.

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