• Re: Too Bad, So sad

    From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Mar 4 13:07:10 2024
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    On 2024-03-04 09:35, AlleyCat wrote:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH1-7e6XIAArrW4?format=png&name=large

    But they agree he committed insurection...

    ...loser.


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    Today - James, 74, insisted that he didn't believe the company, CEFC China Energy, was controlled by Beijing - claiming that "I just misspoke" when telling the IRS in a 2022 interview that first son Hunter Biden, who was partnering with his uncle, had described CEFC chairman Ye Jianming as a "protégé" of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

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    Today - Hunter admitted that he got $250,000 as a "loan" from Li but then never
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    Hunter Biden Admits 'Big Guy' Joe Biden Email

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    Today - Hunter also admitted putting his father Joe on speakerphone and inviting him to numerous lunches with business associates and 'friends' over the years. By R. Ghosh March 1, 2024 15:21 +08

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    https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2024/03/01/hunter-made-a-lot-of-intriguing- admissions-including-who-the-big-guy-was-n2170803

    Today - Hunter admitted that he got $250,000 as a "loan" from Li but then never
    had to pay it back and that his "sugar brother" Kevin Morris took on the debt.
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Mar 4 20:04:06 2024
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    On 2024-03-04 19:53, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 13:07:10 -0800, Alan says...

    But they agree he committed insurection...

    Nope.

    Yup.


    A non-ruling is not a ruling. How can the court "agree" on something that wasn't even brought up?

    With a conservative majority, they would not have hesitated to address
    that point, since Trump's lawyers included it in their brief.


    "Donald Trump Can Remain on The Presidential Ballot But The Question of Whether
    He Was Guilty of Insurrection Unresolved"

    What was your source for that quote, loser?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Mar 5 08:45:44 2024
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    On 2024-03-04 19:53, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 13:07:10 -0800, Alan says...

    But they agree he committed insurection...

    Nope.

    A non-ruling is not a ruling. How can the court "agree" on something that wasn't even brought up?

    "Donald Trump Can Remain on The Presidential Ballot But The Question of Whether
    He Was Guilty of Insurrection Unresolved"

    "Unresolved" because it wasn't addressed.

    A non-ruling is not a ruling. How can the court "agree" on something that wasn't even addressed?

    It was addressed in Trump's brief, loser.

    From page 27:

    '18
    SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT

    1. The Court should reverse because President Trump is not subject to
    section 3. The president is not an “officer of the United States” as
    that term is used in the Constitution. President Trump also never swore
    an oath before he became president that could trigger the appli- cation
    of section 3.

    2. The Court should also reverse because President Trump did not “engage
    in insurrection.” The Colorado Supreme Court tried to impute the conduct
    of others to President Trump. But the Anderson litigants needed to show
    that President Trump’s own conduct qualified as “insurrection,” and they cannot make that showing when President Trump never participated in or
    directed any of the illegal conduct that occurred at the Capitol on
    Janu- ary 6, 2021. In fact, the opposite is true, as President Trump
    repeatedly called for peace, patriotism, and law and order.'

    <https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-719/298125/20240118171750343_Trump%20v%20Anderson%20Petitioner%20Brief%20on%20the%20Merits.pdf>

    Let me write that most pertinent sentence again for you, loser:

    'The Court should also reverse because President Trump did not “engage
    in insurrection.”'

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Mar 5 16:58:17 2024
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    On 2024-03-05 10:44, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:04:06 -0800, Alan says...

    What was your source for that quote, loser?

    A source you've already looked up.

    So what was it? Telling me would be quicker than this, loser.

    But...

    This quote:

    "Donald Trump Can Remain on The Presidential Ballot But The Question of
    Whether He Was Guilty of Insurrection Unresolved"

    ...is wrong.

    Both the US House of Representatives and the courts in Colorado have
    agreed he engaged in insurrection...

    ...and despite being asked to rule that he hadn't, the US Supreme Court
    did not reverse that finding.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Mar 5 17:33:22 2024
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    On 2024-03-05 17:30, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 13:07:10 -0800, Alan says...

    But they agree he committed insurection...

    No, they didn't.

    They let that finding of fact stand when Trump made the argument that
    that finding was wrong.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Mar 5 17:32:40 2024
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    On 2024-03-05 17:30, AlleyCat wrote:

    Colorado

    No jurisdiction.

    Supreme Court said so.

    Conflating two different things, loser.

    The Supreme Court ruled that COLORADO couldn't use the FACT that Trump
    engaged in an insurrection to disqualify him.

    They didn't deny that finding of fact.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Wed Mar 6 16:29:23 2024
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    On 2024-03-06 16:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 17:32:40 -0800, Alan says...

    Conflating two different things, loser.

    No... YOU are the one conflating, because you're suing it as an argument against what the Court DID find... that Colorado has NO jurisdiction.

    Nope.


    I already TOLD you this.

    "The decision did not conclude one way or the other if Trump had engaged in insurrection, as Colorado's high court did." - NBC

    Let's see how honest you can be, loser.

    Yes or no only:

    Did the district court in Denver find that Trump had engaged in an insurrection? Yes or no, and then you can editorialize about "kangaroo
    courts".

    Did the Colorado Supreme Court affirm that finding? (same conditions).

    Did Trump argue to the US Supreme Court that he hadn't actually engaged
    in an insurrection? (same conditions)

    Did the US Supreme Court overturn the finding that Trump had engaged in
    an insurrection? (same conditions).

    Can you be this honest, loser?

    I seriously doubt it.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Wed Mar 6 16:30:37 2024
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    On 2024-03-06 16:19, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 17:33:22 -0800, Alan says...

    They let that finding of fact stand when Trump made the argument that
    that finding was wrong.

    Letting it "stand" does NOT mean they disagreed with it or not. They probably can NOT care less about what the Kangaroo Courts of Colorado think or did.

    I law that is EXACTLY what it means.

    The undisputed conclusion of the courts is that Trump DID engage in an insurrection.


    Sorry... you arguing of ONLY the "insurrection" issue that Colorado "found", is
    moot.

    Except that Trump explicitly argued to the USSC...

    ...and they didn't overturn the finding.

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