• Re: 'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's

    From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Feb 19 08:34:38 2024
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    On 2024-02-18 19:47, AlleyCat wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To Promote Failed Health Company

    But here's the takeaway:

    Politico did not uncover any evidence to suggest that Joe Biden took any steps
    to benefit the firm or became involved in Americore's operations.

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  • From Clave@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Feb 19 22:22:36 2024
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    On 2/19/2024 7:28 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 16:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To
    Promote Failed Health Company

    <snip>

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in
    Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?

    1. No. There really isn't.

    Sure there is.

    There isn't.

    Ask the Fed Reserve about suspicious wire transfers.

    No evidence of any.


    2. Why the question mark at the end of that sentence?

    Because it's a question?

    Actually, it wasn't, and neither was that.


    Between numerous shell companies,

    How many. Quantify it and lets start comparing.

    Many,

    *Quantify*, you were instructed. You failed.

    And of course you didn't name any. Because you can't.



    trips to foreign nations followed shortly by huge sums of money
    deposited in Biden accounts,

    Evidence please!

    <crickets>


    claims of transfers between family members being payback of a loan
    with no paper trail showing the loan was distributed in the first place and on and on it goes.

    I owe my brother $6,000 but there's not paper trail. And a few years
    ago, he owed me $4K. It's not that unusual.

    <crickets>



    These people are dirty and it's obvious.

    And yet there is no real evidence beyond you wishing it was so.

    <crickets>

    "pothole"/"Sakran" has nothing...exactly like Jimmy-Hat Comer.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Feb 20 00:09:02 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To Promote Failed Health Company

    Jim Biden frequently invoked his brother Joe Biden's name to promote a now- defunct health care company that allegedly engaged in massive Medicare fraud, according to Politico.

    Jim Biden's name appeared in investor materials and internal communications alongside some of the top leaders and executives at Americore, a hospital operator that sought to reinvigorate health care in rural America, and at least
    three members of the Biden family did work with the company, according to Politico's investigation. Jim Biden would frequently invoke his brother's name
    when pitching prospective investors in the company, which wired Jim Biden $200,000 before he transferred the same amount to Joe Biden in 2018.

    "This would be a perfect platform to expose my Brothers (sic) team to [your] protocol," Jim Biden wrote to Jonathan Brenner, the CEO of a Tampa-area company
    that owned licensing rights to a new cancer treatment, while he was consulting
    for Americore, according to Politico. "Could provide a great opportunity for some real exposure." (RELATED: Chinese Firm Paid Hunter And James Biden Millions For Attempting To Secure US Energy Deals, Testimony Shows)

    Politico did not uncover any evidence to suggest that Joe Biden took any steps
    to benefit the firm or became involved in Americore's operations. However, anonymous Americore executives told Politico that Jim Biden had discussed putting Joe Biden on the company's board and that Joe Biden's political career
    could have benefited if the company successfully improved health care in rural
    regions of the U.S.

    Federal investigators are actively probing an alleged $100 million Medicare fraud involving Americore, according to Politico. The Department of Justice has
    alleged that the company's hospital in Pennsylvania entered into phony agreements and gave kickback payments as part of a broader conspiracy that charged the government for unnecessary testing.

    There were also discussions about potentially giving Joe Biden a stake in the company, but those talks never materialized, a former executive told Politico.
    One person who Jim Biden pitched about Americore remembered Jim Biden saying that his brother was in the car with him while he spoke, the individual on the
    receiving end of the call told Politico.

    A draft version of a presentation meant for investors included a slide outlining Americore's management, listing Jim Biden just below the company's CEO, according to Politico. Jim Biden's biography describes him as the "brother
    and campaign finance chair of President Joe Biden" with a "tremendous network of contacts across healthcare, real estate, technology, international unions, federal agencies (specifically the veterans' administration), post-traumatic stress and the insurance industry." (RELATED: FBI Secretly Recorded Joe Biden's
    Brother As Part Of Bribery Probe: REPORT)

    Jim Biden also engaged in efforts to lock down investment in the company from Qatari interests, according to Politico.

    "My family could provide a wealth of introductions and business opportunities at the highest levels that I believe would be worthy of the interest of His Excellency," James Biden wrote in a 2017 draft letter intended for Khaled Sultan Al Rabban of the Qatar Investment Authority, according to Politico. "On
    behalf of the Biden family, I welcome your interest here."

    Ultimately, efforts to secure Qatari capital did not pan out, and Americore subsequently collapsed as its existing financial problems intensified, according to Politico. The company's failure had significant human costs, including missed payments to hospital employees and diminishing services for patients.

    "I was sold that Americore was going to be the salvation of rural hospitals," a
    former Americore executive told Politico, which granted the source anonymity to
    discuss the matter candidly. "The whole thing was a scam, and it didn't take that long to figure it out."

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?
    Between numerous shell companies, trips to foreign nations followed shortly by huge sums of money
    deposited in Biden accounts, claims of transfers between family members being payback of a loan
    with no paper trail showing the loan was distributed in the first place and on and on it goes.

    These people are dirty and it's obvious.

    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Feb 19 16:29:26 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-19 16:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To >> Promote Failed Health Company

    <snip>

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in
    Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?

    1. No. There really isn't.

    2. Why the question mark at the end of that sentence?

    Between numerous shell companies,

    How many. Quantify it and lets start comparing.

    trips to foreign nations followed shortly by huge sums of money
    deposited in Biden accounts,

    Evidence please!

    claims of transfers between family members being payback of a loan
    with no paper trail showing the loan was distributed in the first place and on and on it goes.

    I owe my brother $6,000 but there's not paper trail. And a few years
    ago, he owed me $4K. It's not that unusual.


    These people are dirty and it's obvious.

    And yet there is no real evidence beyond you wishing it was so.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Feb 20 03:28:52 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 16:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To >>> Promote Failed Health Company

    <snip>

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in
    Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?

    1. No. There really isn't.

    Sure there is.
    Ask the Fed Reserve about suspicious wire transfers.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/like-organized-crime-multiple-banks-blow-the-whistle-170-
    times-on-biden-family/ar-AA1ePFbF>


    2. Why the question mark at the end of that sentence?

    Because it's a question?

    Between numerous shell companies,

    How many. Quantify it and lets start comparing.

    Many, including Biden family children.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves
    /ar-AA1b0YIR>



    trips to foreign nations followed shortly by huge sums of money
    deposited in Biden accounts,

    Evidence please!

    claims of transfers between family members being payback of a loan
    with no paper trail showing the loan was distributed in the first place and on and on it goes.

    I owe my brother $6,000 but there's not paper trail. And a few years
    ago, he owed me $4K. It's not that unusual.


    These people are dirty and it's obvious.

    And yet there is no real evidence beyond you wishing it was so.



    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Feb 19 19:51:33 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-19 19:28, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 16:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To
    Promote Failed Health Company

    <snip>

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in
    Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?

    1. No. There really isn't.

    Sure there is.
    Ask the Fed Reserve about suspicious wire transfers.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/like-organized-crime-multiple-banks-blow-the-whistle-170-
    times-on-biden-family/ar-AA1ePFbF>

    'These SARs are sent to the Treasury Department when banks “have a
    strong suspicion” that a crime has been committed, which is meant to
    protect the bank.'

    False.

    'The confidential reports, called SARs for short, are often routine,
    with larger financial transactions automatically flagged to the
    government. The filing of a SARs report is not evidence on its own of misconduct.'

    <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/republicans-are-using-financial-records-to-investigate-hunter-biden-heres-how>

    'The Bank Policy Institute (BPI), an advocacy group for large banks,
    says banks receive computer-generated alerts about possibly suspicious transactions and then a compliance officer decides whether to file a
    SAR. “Since banks are subject to enforcement action if they fail to file
    a SAR when they should have, but suffer no sanction if they file a
    useless SAR, the general presumption is to file the SAR,” the group says.'

    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/19/misleading-claim-that-bank-reports-show-hunter-biden-committed-serious-crimes/>



    2. Why the question mark at the end of that sentence?

    Because it's a question?

    It wasn't a question. The mere presence of the word "why" in a sentence
    doesn't make it a question.


    Between numerous shell companies,

    How many. Quantify it and lets start comparing.

    Many, including Biden family children.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves
    /ar-AA1b0YIR>

    So you can't produce a number.

    Got it.

    And I can't help noticing that you're trying to hard your actual sources
    for these allegations ("American Insider" and "The New York Post" respectively), and we know why.

    And notice that I didn't add a question mark.




    trips to foreign nations followed shortly by huge sums of money
    deposited in Biden accounts,

    Evidence please!

    So you have none.

    Got it.


    claims of transfers between family members being payback of a loan
    with no paper trail showing the loan was distributed in the first place and on and on it goes.

    I owe my brother $6,000 but there's not paper trail. And a few years
    ago, he owed me $4K. It's not that unusual.


    These people are dirty and it's obvious.

    And yet there is no real evidence beyond you wishing it was so.

    Not rebuttal.

    Shocking.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Feb 20 13:23:14 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 19:28, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 16:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To
    Promote Failed Health Company

    <snip>

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in
    Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment. >>>>>
    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?

    1. No. There really isn't.

    Sure there is.
    Ask the Fed Reserve about suspicious wire transfers.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/like-organized-crime-multiple-banks-blow-the-whistle-170-
    times-on-biden-family/ar-AA1ePFbF>

    'These SARs are sent to the Treasury Department when banks “have a
    strong suspicion” that a crime has been committed, which is meant to protect the bank.'

    False.

    'The confidential reports, called SARs for short, are often routine,
    with larger financial transactions automatically flagged to the
    government. The filing of a SARs report is not evidence on its own of misconduct.'

    <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/republicans-are-using-financial-records-to-investigate-hunter-biden-heres-how>

    'The Bank Policy Institute (BPI), an advocacy group for large banks,
    says banks receive computer-generated alerts about possibly suspicious transactions and then a compliance officer decides whether to file a
    SAR. “Since banks are subject to enforcement action if they fail to file
    a SAR when they should have, but suffer no sanction if they file a
    useless SAR, the general presumption is to file the SAR,” the group says.'

    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/19/misleading-claim-that-bank-reports-show-hunter-biden-committed-serious-crimes/>



    2. Why the question mark at the end of that sentence?

    Because it's a question?

    It wasn't a question. The mere presence of the word "why" in a sentence doesn't make it a question.


    Between numerous shell companies,

    How many. Quantify it and lets start comparing.

    Many, including Biden family children.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves
    /ar-AA1b0YIR>

    So you can't produce a number.

    Got it.

    And I can't help noticing that you're trying to hard your actual sources
    for these allegations ("American Insider" and "The New York Post" respectively), and we know why.

    And notice that I didn't add a question mark.




    trips to foreign nations followed shortly by huge sums of money
    deposited in Biden accounts,

    Evidence please!

    So you have none.

    Got it.


    claims of transfers between family members being payback of a loan
    with no paper trail showing the loan was distributed in the first place and on and on it goes.

    I owe my brother $6,000 but there's not paper trail. And a few years
    ago, he owed me $4K. It's not that unusual.


    These people are dirty and it's obvious.

    And yet there is no real evidence beyond you wishing it was so.

    Not rebuttal.

    Shocking.

    Hunter and/or Joe Biden meet with foreign entities in various countries and shortly thereafter
    like magic millions of dollars get transferred to a Biden family account.

    So what are they selling?

    What is the product?

    It certainly isn't Hunter Biden's knowledge of anything because he has none. And over 150 transactions were flagged as suspicious.
    All on a career politician's salary.

    The Biden family could teach the Mafia some things about money laundering and influence peddling.


    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Feb 20 07:31:53 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2/20/2024 5:23 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 19:28, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 16:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To
    Promote Failed Health Company

    <snip>

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in
    Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment. >>>>>>
    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?

    1. No. There really isn't.

    Sure there is.
    Ask the Fed Reserve about suspicious wire transfers.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/like-organized-crime-multiple-banks-blow-the-whistle-170-
    times-on-biden-family/ar-AA1ePFbF>

    'These SARs are sent to the Treasury Department when banks “have a
    strong suspicion” that a crime has been committed, which is meant to
    protect the bank.'

    False.

    'The confidential reports, called SARs for short, are often routine,
    with larger financial transactions automatically flagged to the
    government. The filing of a SARs report is not evidence on its own of
    misconduct.'

    <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/republicans-are-using-financial-records-to-investigate-hunter-biden-heres-how>

    'The Bank Policy Institute (BPI), an advocacy group for large banks,
    says banks receive computer-generated alerts about possibly suspicious
    transactions and then a compliance officer decides whether to file a
    SAR. “Since banks are subject to enforcement action if they fail to file >> a SAR when they should have, but suffer no sanction if they file a
    useless SAR, the general presumption is to file the SAR,” the group says.' >>
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/19/misleading-claim-that-bank-reports-show-hunter-biden-committed-serious-crimes/>



    2. Why the question mark at the end of that sentence?

    Because it's a question?

    It wasn't a question. The mere presence of the word "why" in a sentence
    doesn't make it a question.


    Between numerous shell companies,

    How many. Quantify it and lets start comparing.

    Many, including Biden family children.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves
    /ar-AA1b0YIR>

    So you can't produce a number.

    Got it.

    And I can't help noticing that you're trying to hard your actual sources
    for these allegations ("American Insider" and "The New York Post"
    respectively), and we know why.

    And notice that I didn't add a question mark.




    trips to foreign nations followed shortly by huge sums of money
    deposited in Biden accounts,

    Evidence please!

    So you have none.

    Got it.


    claims of transfers between family members being payback of a loan
    with no paper trail showing the loan was distributed in the first place and on and on it goes.

    I owe my brother $6,000 but there's not paper trail. And a few years
    ago, he owed me $4K. It's not that unusual.


    These people are dirty and it's obvious.

    And yet there is no real evidence beyond you wishing it was so.

    Not rebuttal.

    Shocking.

    Hunter and/or Joe Biden meet with foreign entities in various countries and shortly thereafter
    like magic millions of dollars get transferred to a Biden family account.

    Bullshit.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Feb 20 09:32:56 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-20 05:23, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 19:28, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 16:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To
    Promote Failed Health Company

    <snip>

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in
    Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment. >>>>>>
    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?

    1. No. There really isn't.

    Sure there is.
    Ask the Fed Reserve about suspicious wire transfers.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/like-organized-crime-multiple-banks-blow-the-whistle-170-
    times-on-biden-family/ar-AA1ePFbF>

    'These SARs are sent to the Treasury Department when banks “have a
    strong suspicion” that a crime has been committed, which is meant to
    protect the bank.'

    False.

    'The confidential reports, called SARs for short, are often routine,
    with larger financial transactions automatically flagged to the
    government. The filing of a SARs report is not evidence on its own of
    misconduct.'

    <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/republicans-are-using-financial-records-to-investigate-hunter-biden-heres-how>

    'The Bank Policy Institute (BPI), an advocacy group for large banks,
    says banks receive computer-generated alerts about possibly suspicious
    transactions and then a compliance officer decides whether to file a
    SAR. “Since banks are subject to enforcement action if they fail to file >> a SAR when they should have, but suffer no sanction if they file a
    useless SAR, the general presumption is to file the SAR,” the group says.' >>
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/19/misleading-claim-that-bank-reports-show-hunter-biden-committed-serious-crimes/>



    2. Why the question mark at the end of that sentence?

    Because it's a question?

    It wasn't a question. The mere presence of the word "why" in a sentence
    doesn't make it a question.


    Between numerous shell companies,

    How many. Quantify it and lets start comparing.

    Many, including Biden family children.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves
    /ar-AA1b0YIR>

    So you can't produce a number.

    Got it.

    And I can't help noticing that you're trying to hard your actual sources
    for these allegations ("American Insider" and "The New York Post"
    respectively), and we know why.

    And notice that I didn't add a question mark.




    trips to foreign nations followed shortly by huge sums of money
    deposited in Biden accounts,

    Evidence please!

    So you have none.

    Got it.


    claims of transfers between family members being payback of a loan
    with no paper trail showing the loan was distributed in the first place and on and on it goes.

    I owe my brother $6,000 but there's not paper trail. And a few years
    ago, he owed me $4K. It's not that unusual.


    These people are dirty and it's obvious.

    And yet there is no real evidence beyond you wishing it was so.

    Not rebuttal.

    Shocking.

    Hunter and/or Joe Biden meet with foreign entities in various countries and shortly thereafter
    like magic millions of dollars get transferred to a Biden family account.

    No. Not "a Biden family account". That's a lie.


    So what are they selling?

    What is the product?
    What was Kushner selling, and why doesn't that concern you?


    It certainly isn't Hunter Biden's knowledge of anything because he has none.

    And Kushner had no experience running an investment fund. None.

    And over 150 transactions were flagged as suspicious.

    By a system that routinely flags MILLIONS of transactions.

    Already rebutted.

    All on a career politician's salary.

    Since when was Hunter Biden a politician?


    The Biden family could teach the Mafia some things about money laundering and influence peddling.

    LOL

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Feb 21 00:06:42 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-20 05:23, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 19:28, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 16:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To
    Promote Failed Health Company

    <snip>est anyone still believe that the MSM isn't in the tank for Joe Biden then there is no
    hope for
    you.

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in
    Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment. >>>>>>>
    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?

    1. No. There really isn't.

    Sure there is.
    Ask the Fed Reserve about suspicious wire transfers.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/like-organized-crime-multiple-banks-blow-the-whistle-170-
    times-on-biden-family/ar-AA1ePFbF>

    'These SARs are sent to the Treasury Department when banks “have a
    strong suspicion” that a crime has been committed, which is meant to
    protect the bank.'

    False.

    'The confidential reports, called SARs for short, are often routine,
    with larger financial transactions automatically flagged to the
    government. The filing of a SARs report is not evidence on its own of
    misconduct.'

    <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/republicans-are-using-financial-records-to-investigate-hunter-biden-heres-how>

    'The Bank Policy Institute (BPI), an advocacy group for large banks,
    says banks receive computer-generated alerts about possibly suspicious
    transactions and then a compliance officer decides whether to file a
    SAR. “Since banks are subject to enforcement action if they fail to file >>> a SAR when they should have, but suffer no sanction if they file a
    useless SAR, the general presumption is to file the SAR,” the group says.'

    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/19/misleading-claim-that-bank-reports-show-hunter-biden-committed-serious-crimes/>



    2. Why the question mark at the end of that sentence?

    Because it's a question?

    It wasn't a question. The mere presence of the word "why" in a sentence
    doesn't make it a question.


    Between numerous shell companies,

    How many. Quantify it and lets start comparing.

    Many, including Biden family children.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves
    /ar-AA1b0YIR>

    So you can't produce a number.

    Got it.

    And I can't help noticing that you're trying to hard your actual sources >>> for these allegations ("American Insider" and "The New York Post"
    respectively), and we know why.

    And notice that I didn't add a question mark.




    trips to foreign nations followed shortly by huge sums of money
    deposited in Biden accounts,

    Evidence please!

    So you have none.

    Got it.


    claims of transfers between family members being payback of a loan >>>>>> with no paper trail showing the loan was distributed in the first place and on and on it goes.

    I owe my brother $6,000 but there's not paper trail. And a few years >>>>> ago, he owed me $4K. It's not that unusual.


    These people are dirty and it's obvious.

    And yet there is no real evidence beyond you wishing it was so.

    Not rebuttal.

    Shocking.

    Hunter and/or Joe Biden meet with foreign entities in various countries and shortly thereafter
    like magic millions of dollars get transferred to a Biden family account.

    No. Not "a Biden family account". That's a lie.

    Shell companies set up under Various Biden family members names including kids.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves
    /ar-AA1b0YIR>


    So what are they selling?

    What is the product?
    What was Kushner selling, and why doesn't that concern you?


    It certainly isn't Hunter Biden's knowledge of anything because he has none.

    And Kushner had no experience running an investment fund. None.

    Pivot to Trump family noted.

    --snip


    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Wed Feb 21 13:59:21 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-20 16:06, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-20 05:23, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 19:28, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 16:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To
    Promote Failed Health Company

    <snip>est anyone still believe that the MSM isn't in the tank for Joe Biden then there is no
    hope for
    you.

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in
    Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment. >>>>>>>>
    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?

    1. No. There really isn't.

    Sure there is.
    Ask the Fed Reserve about suspicious wire transfers.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/like-organized-crime-multiple-banks-blow-the-whistle-170-
    times-on-biden-family/ar-AA1ePFbF>

    'These SARs are sent to the Treasury Department when banks “have a
    strong suspicion” that a crime has been committed, which is meant to >>>> protect the bank.'

    False.

    'The confidential reports, called SARs for short, are often routine,
    with larger financial transactions automatically flagged to the
    government. The filing of a SARs report is not evidence on its own of
    misconduct.'

    <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/republicans-are-using-financial-records-to-investigate-hunter-biden-heres-how>

    'The Bank Policy Institute (BPI), an advocacy group for large banks,
    says banks receive computer-generated alerts about possibly suspicious >>>> transactions and then a compliance officer decides whether to file a
    SAR. “Since banks are subject to enforcement action if they fail to file >>>> a SAR when they should have, but suffer no sanction if they file a
    useless SAR, the general presumption is to file the SAR,” the group says.'

    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/19/misleading-claim-that-bank-reports-show-hunter-biden-committed-serious-crimes/>



    2. Why the question mark at the end of that sentence?

    Because it's a question?

    It wasn't a question. The mere presence of the word "why" in a sentence >>>> doesn't make it a question.


    Between numerous shell companies,

    How many. Quantify it and lets start comparing.

    Many, including Biden family children.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves
    /ar-AA1b0YIR>

    So you can't produce a number.

    Got it.

    And I can't help noticing that you're trying to hard your actual sources >>>> for these allegations ("American Insider" and "The New York Post"
    respectively), and we know why.

    And notice that I didn't add a question mark.




    trips to foreign nations followed shortly by huge sums of money
    deposited in Biden accounts,

    Evidence please!

    So you have none.

    Got it.


    claims of transfers between family members being payback of a loan >>>>>>> with no paper trail showing the loan was distributed in the first place and on and on it goes.

    I owe my brother $6,000 but there's not paper trail. And a few years >>>>>> ago, he owed me $4K. It's not that unusual.


    These people are dirty and it's obvious.

    And yet there is no real evidence beyond you wishing it was so.

    Not rebuttal.

    Shocking.

    Hunter and/or Joe Biden meet with foreign entities in various countries and shortly thereafter
    like magic millions of dollars get transferred to a Biden family account. >>
    No. Not "a Biden family account". That's a lie.

    Shell companies set up under Various Biden family members names including kids.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves
    /ar-AA1b0YIR>

    Sorry, but you'll have to quote the specific text that proves your claim.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Feb 22 18:41:54 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-21, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:23:14 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    Hunter and/or Joe Biden meet with foreign entities in various countries and shortly thereafter
    like magic millions of dollars get transferred to a Biden family account.

    You have no proof of those allegations anymore than you have proof of any of the other
    criminal allegations the right has made against the Bidens. Or, for that matter, the
    Clintons.

    https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

    How does it feel to hate?
    I wouldn't know.
    Do you?

    Swill
    NP: Al Jarreau - It's Not Hard To Love You


    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Feb 22 10:48:23 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-22 10:41, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:23:14 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    Hunter and/or Joe Biden meet with foreign entities in various countries and shortly thereafter
    like magic millions of dollars get transferred to a Biden family account. >>
    You have no proof of those allegations anymore than you have proof of any of the other
    criminal allegations the right has made against the Bidens. Or, for that matter, the
    Clintons.

    https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

    Produce...

    ...the...

    ...actual...

    ...quotes.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Feb 22 19:13:11 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-21, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 00:06:42 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-20 05:23, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 19:28, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 16:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To
    Promote Failed Health Company

    <snip>est anyone still believe that the MSM isn't in the tank for Joe Biden then there is no
    hope for
    you.

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in
    Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment. >>>>>>>>>
    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?

    1. No. There really isn't.

    Sure there is.
    Ask the Fed Reserve about suspicious wire transfers.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/like-organized-crime-multiple-banks-blow-the-whistle-170-
    times-on-biden-family/ar-AA1ePFbF>

    'These SARs are sent to the Treasury Department when banks “have a
    strong suspicion” that a crime has been committed, which is meant to >>>>> protect the bank.'

    False.

    'The confidential reports, called SARs for short, are often routine, >>>>> with larger financial transactions automatically flagged to the
    government. The filing of a SARs report is not evidence on its own of >>>>> misconduct.'

    <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/republicans-are-using-financial-records-to-investigate-hunter-biden-heres-how>

    'The Bank Policy Institute (BPI), an advocacy group for large banks, >>>>> says banks receive computer-generated alerts about possibly suspicious >>>>> transactions and then a compliance officer decides whether to file a >>>>> SAR. “Since banks are subject to enforcement action if they fail to file >>>>> a SAR when they should have, but suffer no sanction if they file a
    useless SAR, the general presumption is to file the SAR,” the group says.'

    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/19/misleading-claim-that-bank-reports-show-hunter-biden-committed-serious-crimes/>



    2. Why the question mark at the end of that sentence?

    Because it's a question?

    It wasn't a question. The mere presence of the word "why" in a sentence >>>>> doesn't make it a question.


    Between numerous shell companies,

    How many. Quantify it and lets start comparing.

    Many, including Biden family children.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves/ar-AA1b0YIR>

    MSN is a news aggregator. This article was actually published in the New York Post. So
    much for your attempt to legitimize yet another right wing lie about the Bidens.

    So?
    Was it retracted?
    Was the NYP served with a cease and desist letter?
    Have the Biden's explained why they have ~20 shell companies and where the money being shifted
    around originated from?



    So you can't produce a number.

    Got it.

    And I can't help noticing that you're trying to hard your actual sources >>>>> for these allegations ("American Insider" and "The New York Post"
    respectively), and we know why.

    And notice that I didn't add a question mark.




    trips to foreign nations followed shortly by huge sums of money >>>>>>>> deposited in Biden accounts,

    Evidence please!

    So you have none.

    Got it.


    claims of transfers between family members being payback of a loan >>>>>>>> with no paper trail showing the loan was distributed in the first place and on and on it goes.

    I owe my brother $6,000 but there's not paper trail. And a few years >>>>>>> ago, he owed me $4K. It's not that unusual.


    These people are dirty and it's obvious.

    And yet there is no real evidence beyond you wishing it was so.

    Not rebuttal.

    Shocking.

    Hunter and/or Joe Biden meet with foreign entities in various countries and shortly thereafter
    like magic millions of dollars get transferred to a Biden family account. >>>
    No. Not "a Biden family account". That's a lie.

    Shell companies set up under Various Biden family members names including kids.
    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves/ar-AA1b0YIR>

    MSN is a news aggregator. This article was actually published in the New York Post. So
    much for your attempt to legitimize yet another right wing lie about the Bidens.

    So what are they selling?

    What is the product?
    What was Kushner selling, and why doesn't that concern you?


    It certainly isn't Hunter Biden's knowledge of anything because he has none.

    And Kushner had no experience running an investment fund. None.

    Pivot to Trump family noted.

    Why are you so afraid to discuss Trump family corruption?

    Because the subject of the thread is the Biden's.


    Swill


    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Thu Feb 22 11:32:30 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2024-02-22 11:13, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-21, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 00:06:42 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-20 05:23, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 19:28, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-20, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-02-19 16:09, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-02-19, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:

    'The Whole Thing Was A Scam': Jim Biden Used His Powerful Brother's Name To
    Promote Failed Health Company

    <snip>est anyone still believe that the MSM isn't in the tank for Joe Biden then there is no
    hope for
    you.

    Jim Biden paid $350,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that he played a role in
    Americore's demise, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The White House did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

    Meaning, they're guilty and hiding under the couches.

    There is much evidence pointing to the corrupt Biden family it's a mystery why they aren't in jail
    already?

    1. No. There really isn't.

    Sure there is.
    Ask the Fed Reserve about suspicious wire transfers.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/like-organized-crime-multiple-banks-blow-the-whistle-170-
    times-on-biden-family/ar-AA1ePFbF>

    'These SARs are sent to the Treasury Department when banks “have a >>>>>> strong suspicion” that a crime has been committed, which is meant to >>>>>> protect the bank.'

    False.

    'The confidential reports, called SARs for short, are often routine, >>>>>> with larger financial transactions automatically flagged to the
    government. The filing of a SARs report is not evidence on its own of >>>>>> misconduct.'

    <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/republicans-are-using-financial-records-to-investigate-hunter-biden-heres-how>

    'The Bank Policy Institute (BPI), an advocacy group for large banks, >>>>>> says banks receive computer-generated alerts about possibly suspicious >>>>>> transactions and then a compliance officer decides whether to file a >>>>>> SAR. “Since banks are subject to enforcement action if they fail to file
    a SAR when they should have, but suffer no sanction if they file a >>>>>> useless SAR, the general presumption is to file the SAR,” the group says.'

    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/19/misleading-claim-that-bank-reports-show-hunter-biden-committed-serious-crimes/>



    2. Why the question mark at the end of that sentence?

    Because it's a question?

    It wasn't a question. The mere presence of the word "why" in a sentence >>>>>> doesn't make it a question.


    Between numerous shell companies,

    How many. Quantify it and lets start comparing.

    Many, including Biden family children.

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/how-the-biden-family-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves/ar-AA1b0YIR>

    MSN is a news aggregator. This article was actually published in the New York Post. So
    much for your attempt to legitimize yet another right wing lie about the Bidens.

    So?
    Was it retracted?
    Was the NYP served with a cease and desist letter?
    Have the Biden's explained why they have ~20 shell companies and where the money being shifted
    around originated from?

    You mean any article that hasn't been retracted is, by definition, accurate?

    Have you checked how many shell companies OTHER prominent families might
    have?

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