https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-abortion-pill-mifepristone-justice-department/
[...]
The Biden administration on Tuesday urged the Supreme Court to preserve
broad access to a widely used abortion pill, warning that limiting its availability would impose "grave harms" on women seeking medication abortions.
The Justice Department and Danco Laboratories, the maker of the drug mifepristone, submitted filings to the Supreme Court that laid out their arguments for why the justices should reverse a lower court ruling that
would roll back a series of actions taken by the Food and Drug
Administration since 2016 that made the pill easier to maintain.
[...]
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and should
be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and liker risky
to the mother.
David Hartung wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-abortion-pill-mifepristone-justice-department/ [...]
The Biden administration on Tuesday urged the Supreme Court to
preserve broad access to a widely used abortion pill, warning that
limiting its availability would impose "grave harms" on women seeking
medication abortions.
The Justice Department and Danco Laboratories, the maker of the drug
mifepristone, submitted filings to the Supreme Court that laid out
their arguments for why the justices should reverse a lower court
ruling that would roll back a series of actions taken by the Food and
Drug Administration since 2016 that made the pill easier to maintain.
[...]
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and
should be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and
liker risky to the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and
Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-abortion-pill-mifepristone-justice-department/ [...]
The Biden administration on Tuesday urged the Supreme Court to preserve broad
access to a widely used abortion pill, warning that limiting its availability
would impose "grave harms" on women seeking medication abortions.
The Justice Department and Danco Laboratories, the maker of the drug
mifepristone, submitted filings to the Supreme Court that laid out their >>> arguments for why the justices should reverse a lower court ruling that would
roll back a series of actions taken by the Food and Drug Administration since
2016 that made the pill easier to maintain.
[...]
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and should be >>> totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and liker risky to the >>> mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and Effective >>
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's disease, the other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted when I said that it should
be outlawed. When used as an abortificant, a life is taken, and that usage should be outlawed.
On 2/12/2024 4:56 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-abortion-pill-mifepristone-justice-department/ [...]
The Biden administration on Tuesday urged the Supreme Court to
preserve broad access to a widely used abortion pill, warning that
limiting its availability would impose "grave harms" on women
seeking medication abortions.
The Justice Department and Danco Laboratories, the maker of the drug
mifepristone, submitted filings to the Supreme Court that laid out
their arguments for why the justices should reverse a lower court
ruling that would roll back a series of actions taken by the Food
and Drug Administration since 2016 that made the pill easier to
maintain.
[...]
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and
should be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and
liker risky to the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and
Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's
disease, the other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted
when I said that it should be outlawed. When used as an abortificant,
a life is taken, and that usage should be outlawed.
No, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of her.
No, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of
her.
you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
engage in baby making activity.
On 2/12/24 10:02, Mike Colangelo wrote:
On 2/12/2024 4:56 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-abortion-pill-mifepristo
ne-justice-department/ [...] The Biden administration on Tuesday
urged the Supreme Court to preserve broad access to a widely used
abortion pill, warning that limiting its availability would impose
"grave harms" on women seeking medication abortions.
The Justice Department and Danco Laboratories, the maker of the
drug mifepristone, submitted filings to the Supreme Court that
laid out their arguments for why the justices should reverse a
lower court ruling that would roll back a series of actions taken
by the Food and Drug Administration since 2016 that made the pill
easier to maintain.
[...]
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and
should be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and
liker risky to the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-br
ief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and
Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's
disease, the other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted
when I said that it should be outlawed. When used as an
abortificant, a life is taken, and that usage should be outlawed.
No, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of
her.
you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
engage in baby making activity.
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in news:cTCdndR31tjWWFf4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On 2/12/24 10:02, Mike Colangelo wrote:What about the guy. It takes 2 to make a baby.
On 2/12/2024 4:56 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-abortion-pill-mifepristo >>>>>> ne-justice-department/ [...] The Biden administration on Tuesday
urged the Supreme Court to preserve broad access to a widely used
abortion pill, warning that limiting its availability would impose >>>>>> "grave harms" on women seeking medication abortions.
The Justice Department and Danco Laboratories, the maker of the
drug mifepristone, submitted filings to the Supreme Court that
laid out their arguments for why the justices should reverse a
lower court ruling that would roll back a series of actions taken
by the Food and Drug Administration since 2016 that made the pill
easier to maintain.
[...]
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and
should be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and
liker risky to the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-br >>>>> ief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and
Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's
disease, the other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted
when I said that it should be outlawed. When used as an
abortificant, a life is taken, and that usage should be outlawed.
No, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of
her.
you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
engage in baby making activity.
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in news:cTCdndR31tjWWFf4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com:
No, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of
her.
you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
engage in baby making activity.
And as we all know rape victims actually
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio
07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denied- abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion
Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions-in-10- year-old-rape-victims-abortion
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:cTCdndR31tjWWFf4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com:
No, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of
her.
you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
engage in baby making activity.
And as we all know rape victims actually
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio
07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denied-
abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion
Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions-i
n-10- year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual intercourse.
As usual you are being dishonest.
On 2/12/24 21:12, Baxter wrote:
What about the guy. It takes 2 to make a baby.
Yes, what about the guy? Suppose he wants the baby and the woman
doesn't? Doesn't he get a say? Also, unless it is rape, if the woman
says not, there will be no baby making activity.
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:cTCdndR31tjWWFf4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com:
No, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of
her.
you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
engage in baby making activity.
And as we all know rape victims actually
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio
07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denied-
abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion
Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions-i
n-10- year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual intercourse.
As usual you are being dishonest.
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:06:34 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
And as we all know rape victims actuallyNo, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside ofyou know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
her.
engage in baby making activity.
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio 07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denied-abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions-in-10- >>> year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual intercourse.
As usual you are being dishonest.
No he is not. You have before supported total abortion bans and argued against abortion
in cases of rape, incest and life threatening danger to the mother.
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in news:8K6dnc8XB_22olb4nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:cTCdndR31tjWWFf4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com:
No, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of
her.
you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
engage in baby making activity.
And as we all know rape victims actually
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio
07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denied-
abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion
Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions-i
n-10- year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual intercourse.
As usual you are being dishonest.
Have you changed your position about
rape victims being denied abortion?
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in news:8K6dnc8XB_22olb4nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:cTCdndR31tjWWFf4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com:
No, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of
her.
you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
engage in baby making activity.
And as we all know rape victims actually
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio
07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denied-
abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion
Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions-i
n-10- year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual intercourse.
As usual you are being dishonest.
But you didn't say so, did you - until you were called on it. You want
do turn something complex into a bumper sticker and not use your brain at all.
On 2/13/24 04:36, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:06:34 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
And as we all know rape victims actuallyNo, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" insideyou know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
of her.
engage in baby making activity.
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio 07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denie
d-abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions
-in-10- year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual
intercourse. As usual you are being dishonest.
No he is not. You have before supported total abortion bans and
argued against abortion in cases of rape, incest and life threatening
danger to the mother.
Yes I have, and now you are being dishonest.
An unborn human life is the most innocent of lives, and to take that
life is wrong.
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in news:qnKdnbllzcGxsFH4nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com:
On 2/13/24 04:36, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:06:34 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
And as we all know rape victims actuallyNo, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" insideyou know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't >>>>>> engage in baby making activity.
of her.
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio 07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denie >>>>> d-abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions >>>>> -in-10- year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual
intercourse. As usual you are being dishonest.
No he is not. You have before supported total abortion bans and
argued against abortion in cases of rape, incest and life threatening
danger to the mother.
Yes I have, and now you are being dishonest.
An unborn human life is the most innocent of lives, and to take that
life is wrong.
So you would deny abortion for raped children.
Why won't you admit that?
On 2/13/24 21:18, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:qnKdnbllzcGxsFH4nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com:
On 2/13/24 04:36, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:06:34 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
And as we all know rape victims actuallyNo, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside >>>>>>>> of her.you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't >>>>>>> engage in baby making activity.
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio 07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denie >>>>>> d-abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions >>>>>> -in-10- year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual
intercourse. As usual you are being dishonest.
No he is not. You have before supported total abortion bans and
argued against abortion in cases of rape, incest and life threatening
danger to the mother.
Yes I have, and now you are being dishonest.
An unborn human life is the most innocent of lives, and to take that
life is wrong.
So you would deny abortion for raped children.
Why won't you admit that?
Sorry, we have had this discussion.
On 2/13/24 04:36, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:06:34 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
And as we all know rape victims actuallyNo, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of >>>>>> her.you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
engage in baby making activity.
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio 07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denied-abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions-in-10-
year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual intercourse.
As usual you are being dishonest.
No he is not. You have before supported total abortion bans and argued
against abortion
in cases of rape, incest and life threatening danger to the mother.
Yes I have,
and now you are being dishonest.
An unborn human life is the most innocent of lives, and to take that life is wrong.
On 2/13/2024 7:02 PM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/13/24 04:36, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:06:34 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
And as we all know rape victims actuallyNo, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of >>>>>>> her.you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't >>>>>> engage in baby making activity.
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio 07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denied-abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions-in-10-
year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual intercourse. >>>> As usual you are being dishonest.
No he is not. You have before supported total abortion bans and
argued against abortion
in cases of rape, incest and life threatening danger to the mother.
Yes I have,
Yes.
and now you are being dishonest.
And now he is kicking your ass.
An unborn human life is the most innocent of lives, and to take that
life is wrong.
No, it isn't.
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in news:qnKdnbllzcGxsFH4nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com:denie
On 2/13/24 04:36, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:06:34 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
And as we all know rape victims actuallyNo, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" insideyou know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't >>>>>> engage in baby making activity.
of her.
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio 07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-
actionsd-abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-
-in-10- year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual
intercourse. As usual you are being dishonest.
No he is not. You have before supported total abortion bans and
argued against abortion in cases of rape, incest and life threatening
danger to the mother.
Yes I have, and now you are being dishonest.
An unborn human life is the most innocent of lives, and to take that
life is wrong.
So you would deny abortion for raped children.
Why won't you admit that?
Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote in news:XnsB117D978ECBB7noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.23:don't
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:qnKdnbllzcGxsFH4nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com:
On 2/13/24 04:36, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:06:34 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
No, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside >>>>>>>> of her.you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby,
threateningdenieengage in baby making activity.And as we all know rape victims actually
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio 07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-
actionsd-abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-
-in-10- year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual
intercourse. As usual you are being dishonest.
No he is not. You have before supported total abortion bans and
argued against abortion in cases of rape, incest and life
Once born, Hartung has no use for those human lives.danger to the mother.
Yes I have, and now you are being dishonest.
An unborn human life is the most innocent of lives, and to take that
life is wrong.
So you would deny abortion for raped children.
Why won't you admit that?
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 18:32:09 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Hartung loves pre-born life, it is all
human life afterwards that he hates.
Every sperm is sacred.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
I like mine straight from the dispenser.
On 2/13/24 23:39, Scout wrote:
On 2/13/2024 7:02 PM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/13/24 04:36, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:06:34 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
And as we all know rape victims actuallyNo, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of >>>>>>>> her.you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't >>>>>>> engage in baby making activity.
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio 07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denied-abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions-in-10-
year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual intercourse. >>>>> As usual you are being dishonest.
No he is not. You have before supported total abortion bans and argued >>>> against abortion
in cases of rape, incest and life threatening danger to the mother.
Yes I have,
Yes.
and now you are being dishonest.
And now he is kicking your ass.
An unborn human life is the most innocent of lives, and to take that life is
wrong.
No, it isn't.
We continue to disagree.
On 2/12/24 10:02, Mike Colangelo wrote:
On 2/12/2024 4:56 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-abortion-pill-mifepristone-justice-department/ [...]
The Biden administration on Tuesday urged the Supreme Court to preserve >>>>> broad access to a widely used abortion pill, warning that limiting its >>>>> availability would impose "grave harms" on women seeking medication abortions.
The Justice Department and Danco Laboratories, the maker of the drug >>>>> mifepristone, submitted filings to the Supreme Court that laid out their >>>>> arguments for why the justices should reverse a lower court ruling that >>>>> would roll back a series of actions taken by the Food and Drug
Administration since 2016 that made the pill easier to maintain.
[...]
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and should be
totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and liker risky to the
mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's disease, the >>> other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted when I said that it >>> should be outlawed. When used as an abortificant, a life is taken, and that >>> usage should be outlawed.
No, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of her.
you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't engage in baby making activity.
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and
should be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and
liker risky to the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and
Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's disease,
the other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted when I said
that it should be outlawed. When used as an abortificant, a life is
taken, and that usage should be outlawed.
On 2/13/24 04:36, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:06:34 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
And as we all know rape victims actuallyNo, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside of >>>>>> her.you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby, don't
engage in baby making activity.
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio 07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-denied-abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victim’s abortion Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actions-in-10-
year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual intercourse.
As usual you are being dishonest.
No he is not. You have before supported total abortion bans and
argued against abortion
in cases of rape, incest and life threatening danger to the mother.
Yes I have, and now you are being dishonest.
An unborn human life is the most innocent of lives, and to take that
life is wrong.
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 23:22:38 -0700, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
On 2/13/24 04:36, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 04:06:34 -0600, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 21:12, Mitchell Holman wrote:
David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
And as we all know rape victims actuallyNo, it should not be. The woman doesn't want that "life" inside >>>>>>>> of her.you know the answer to that. If a woman doesn't wand a baby,
don't engage in baby making activity.
wanted to "engage in baby making activity"
This is what you are defending, Hartung.
10-year-old girl denied abortion in Ohio 07/02/22
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3544588-10-year-old-girl-den >>>>>> ied-abortion-in-ohio/
Indiana doctor defends actions in 10-year-old
rape victims abortion Politics Nov 21, 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/indiana-doctor-defends-actio >>>>>> ns-in-10-
year-old-rape-victims-abortion
No Holman, I am not. I am referring to consensual asexual
intercourse. As usual you are being dishonest.
No he is not. You have before supported total abortion bans and
argued against abortion
in cases of rape, incest and life threatening danger to the mother.
Yes I have, and now you are being dishonest.
An unborn human life is the most innocent of lives, and to take that
life is wrong.
A pregnant woman only counts as one in a census. In your
scenario a baby would be considered a year old three months
after birth.
Chinese astrology is based on conception date.
Swill
David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and
should be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and
liker risky to the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and
Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's
disease, the other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted
when I said that it should be outlawed. When used as an abortificant,
a life is taken, and that usage should be outlawed.
What life is taken?
On 2/19/24 00:19, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and should be
totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and liker risky to the
mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's disease, the >>> other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted when I said that it >>> should be outlawed. When used as an abortificant, a life is taken, and that >>> usage should be outlawed.
What life is taken?
Though you disagree, you know what I mean.
On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 15:44:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
Chinese astrology is based on conception date.
Swill
But not Western astrology. In fact, time of birth is important to
Western astrology.
It doesn't matter since astrology is bullshit anyway.
On 2/19/24 15:34, Lou Bricano wrote:
On 2/19/2024 9:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/19/24 00:19, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life
and should be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the
baby and liker risky to the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus- >>>>>> brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe
and Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's
disease, the other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted
when I said that it should be outlawed. When used as an
abortificant, a life is taken, and that usage should be outlawed.
What life is taken?
Though you disagree, you know what I mean.
The fetus is a human life, but it is not a person — not a full
person with all human rights.
The woman doesn't want it inside her. She should not have to carry it
to term and give birth. Her right to bodily autonomy is violated if
she is forced to do so against her will.
Rudy, you never seem to figure it out.
You have no problem with killing the most innocent of humans,
yet you
pitch a fit over the idea of a convicted murderer being required to
forfeit his life as punishment for his crime.
On 2/19/2024 9:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/19/24 00:19, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and
should be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and
liker risky to the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and
Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's
disease, the other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted
when I said that it should be outlawed. When used as an
abortificant, a life is taken, and that usage should be outlawed.
What life is taken?
Though you disagree, you know what I mean.
The fetus is a human life, but it is not a person — not a full person
with all human rights.
The woman doesn't want it inside her. She should not have to carry it to
term and give birth. Her right to bodily autonomy is violated if she is forced to do so against her will.
On 2/19/24 15:34, Lou Bricano wrote:
On 2/19/2024 9:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/19/24 00:19, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and should
be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and liker risky to
the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's disease, the
other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted when I said that it >>>>> should be outlawed. When used as an abortificant, a life is taken, and that
usage should be outlawed.
What life is taken?
Though you disagree, you know what I mean.
The fetus is a human life, but it is not a person — not a full person with all
human rights.
The woman doesn't want it inside her. She should not have to carry it to term
and give birth. Her right to bodily autonomy is violated if she is forced to >> do so against her will.
Rudy, you never seem to figure it out.
You have no problem with killing the most innocent of humans,
yet you pitch a
fit over the idea of a convicted murderer being required to forfeit his life as
punishment for his crime.
On 2/19/2024 4:13 PM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/19/24 15:34, Lou Bricano wrote:
On 2/19/2024 9:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/19/24 00:19, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life
and should be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the
baby and liker risky to the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe
and Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's
disease, the other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted >>>>>> when I said that it should be outlawed. When used as an
abortificant, a life is taken, and that usage should be outlawed.
What life is taken?
Though you disagree, you know what I mean.
The fetus is a human life, but it is not a person — not a full person
with all human rights.
The woman doesn't want it inside her. She should not have to carry it
to term and give birth. Her right to bodily autonomy is violated if
she is forced to do so against her will.
Rudy, you never seem to figure it out.
I have it figured out, and you don't and never will.
You have no problem with killing the most innocent of humans,
The woman doesn't want the thing inside her. She shouldn't have to keep
it inside her if she doesn't want it.
yet you pitch a fit over the idea of a convicted murderer being
required to forfeit his life as punishment for his crime.
Because the deliberate killing of a *full* person other than in
immediate self defense is wrong. The fetus isn't a complete person.
Here's the part that you don't get. When a majority — a *large* majority — of people consider that the fetus is not a complete person with all
human rights, that simply cannot be ignored. Now, here is where you do
one of your classic fake questions: "So rights depend on majority
opinion?" You think the question is absurd and the obvious answer is
"no," but rights are a human invention — they are not "granted by god" — and in fact, in every human society, the rights that will be recognized
*are* determined in large part by majority sentiment.
A large majority believe that a fetus is not a complete human being, and therefore does not have all human rights. In particular, the majority
believe that the fetus does not have a "right" to inhabit the body of
someone who doesn't want it inside her. And fuck your "she made a
choice" bullshit. That *proves* that you don't give a fuck about the "innocent human life," but rather all you want to do is punish the
woman. It's obvious.
On 2/19/24 19:54, Lou Bricano wrote:
On 2/19/2024 4:13 PM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/19/24 15:34, Lou Bricano wrote:
On 2/19/2024 9:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
On 2/19/24 00:19, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and >>>>>>>>> should be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and liker
risky to the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and >>>>>>>> Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's disease, >>>>>>> the other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted when I said >>>>>>> that it should be outlawed. When used as an abortificant, a life is >>>>>>> taken, and that usage should be outlawed.
What life is taken?
Though you disagree, you know what I mean.
The fetus is a human life, but it is not a person — not a full person with
all human rights.
The woman doesn't want it inside her. She should not have to carry it to >>>> term and give birth. Her right to bodily autonomy is violated if she is >>>> forced to do so against her will.
Rudy, you never seem to figure it out.
I have it figured out, and you don't and never will.
You have no problem with killing the most innocent of humans,
The woman doesn't want the thing inside her. She shouldn't have to keep it >> inside her if she doesn't want it.
It is a human life.
yet you pitch a fit over the idea of a convicted murderer being required to >>> forfeit his life as punishment for his crime.
Because the deliberate killing of a *full* person other than in immediate self
defense is wrong. The fetus isn't a complete person.
In your opinion.
Here's the part that you don't get. When a majority — a *large* majority — of
people consider that the fetus is not a complete person with all human rights,
that simply cannot be ignored. Now, here is where you do one of your classic >> fake questions: "So rights depend on majority opinion?" You think the question
is absurd and the obvious answer is "no," but rights are a human invention —
they are not "granted by god" — and in fact, in every human society, the >> rights that will be recognized *are* determined in large part by majority
sentiment.
Rights are a human invention?
Who gets to determine the rights of man?
A large majority believe that a fetus is not a complete human being, and
therefore does not have all human rights. In particular, the majority believe
that the fetus does not have a "right" to inhabit the body of someone who
doesn't want it inside her. And fuck your "she made a choice" bullshit. That >> *proves* that you don't give a fuck about the "innocent human life," but
rather all you want to do is punish the woman. It's obvious.
Huh?
On 2/19/24 00:19, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
On 2/12/24 00:10, Gronk wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
Mifepristone is a dangerous substance intended do take a life and
should be totally outlawed.The substance is fatal to the baby and
liker risky to the mother.
Dangerous? Any evidence?
https://www.acog.org/news/news-releases/2023/02/acog-leads-amicus-brief-calling-mifepristone-conclusively-safe-and-effective
Feb 10, 2023
ACOG Leads Amicus Brief Calling Mifepristone Conclusively Safe and
Effective
Washington, D.C.—Today, the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists, joined by the
American Medical Association, Society for
Maternal-Fetal Medicine, and nine other prominent
medical organizations, submitted an amicus brief
to the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Texas, Amarillo Division, in the
case of Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine v.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration, a case
challenging the FDA’s 2000 approval of
mifepristone.
The amicus brief outlines the overwhelming
evidence demonstrating that mifepristone—which
has undergone rigorous testing and review and
has been safely used in the United States for
23 years—is conclusively safe and effective.
The amicus brief presents more than two decades
of scientific evidence and medical data, based
on hundreds of medical studies and millions of
uses of mifepristone for medication abortion.
The data overwhelmingly illustrate the safety
of this essential medication. As the brief
states, “serious side effects occur in less
than 1% of patients, and major adverse
events—significant infection, blood loss, or
hospitalization—occur in less than 0.3% of
patients. The risk of death is almost
non-existent.” There is a greater risk of
complications from wisdom tooth removal,
colonoscopy, and Viagra use.
Your turn David...
Mifepristone seems to have two uses, one is ti treat Cushing's
disease, the other if to abort a baby. Thus I may have overreacted
when I said that it should be outlawed. When used as an abortificant,
a life is taken, and that usage should be outlawed.
What life is taken?
Though you disagree, you know what I mean.
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