Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
68g.1503 wrote:
Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
Oh?
https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Trump-merchandise-keeps-com ing-out-of-China-16209910.php
Trump merchandise keeps coming out of China
May 28, 2021
On 2/12/24 1:20 AM, Gronk wrote:
68g.1503 wrote:
Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
Oh?
https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Trump-merchandise-keeps-com
ing-out-of-China-16209910.php
Trump merchandise keeps coming out of China
May 28, 2021
EVERYBODY'S merchandise keeps coming out of China, dumb-ass.Major problem especially for medical supplies and the like.
It's a big problem.
On 2024-02-12, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 1:20 AM, Gronk wrote:Major problem especially for medical supplies and the like.
68g.1503 wrote:
Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
Oh?
https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Trump-merchandise-keeps-com >>> ing-out-of-China-16209910.php
Trump merchandise keeps coming out of China
May 28, 2021
EVERYBODY'S merchandise keeps coming out of China, dumb-ass.
It's a big problem.
China controls us via trade.
They can stop selling to the US any time they want to.
And at some point they will.
On 2/12/24 3:51 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-02-12, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 1:20 AM, Gronk wrote:Major problem especially for medical supplies and the like.
68g.1503 wrote:
Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
Oh?
https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Trump-merchandise-keeps-com >>>> ing-out-of-China-16209910.php
Trump merchandise keeps coming out of China
May 28, 2021
EVERYBODY'S merchandise keeps coming out of China, dumb-ass.
It's a big problem.
China controls us via trade.
They can stop selling to the US any time they want to.
And at some point they will.
It's a weapon as powerfully dangerous to the USA as
a nuke arsenal, but doesn't leave fallout - just a
bunch of starving 3rd-world slaves.
And we LET ourselves get into this position.
Marx claimed that capitalism, by it's own logic,
would eventually be its own undoing. Unfortunately
Marxism doesn't work at all .... which leaves us
with the good ole Lords and Serfs paradigm, kinda
the default historical norm. Wait 'till the Woke
try to protest the Lords .......
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 15:19:03 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-13, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 3:51 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-02-12, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 1:20 AM, Gronk wrote:Major problem especially for medical supplies and the like.
68g.1503 wrote:
Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
Oh?
https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Trump-merchandise-keeps-com >>>>>> ing-out-of-China-16209910.php
Trump merchandise keeps coming out of China
May 28, 2021
EVERYBODY'S merchandise keeps coming out of China, dumb-ass.
It's a big problem.
China controls us via trade.
They can stop selling to the US any time they want to.
And at some point they will.
It's a weapon as powerfully dangerous to the USA as
a nuke arsenal, but doesn't leave fallout - just a
bunch of starving 3rd-world slaves.
It's even worse because it will affect the entire country all at once.
And we LET ourselves get into this position.
Indeed.
Corporate greed and the stupidity of the American public.
It's all a race to please the shareholders and nothing more.
ROTFL! A Republican voter complaining about corporate greed and pleasing the shareholders!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
So they make a pair of sneakers in China for a total cost, including shipping for $20.00 including
I seriously doubt it costs $20 to ship a pair of sneakers from China. They ship by the
thousands in containers. I could Fed Ex a pair for less than that. Once again you prove
that you don't know what you're talking about.
shipping to the USA and the pair get sold for $250 because the buying public are idiots.
The electorate will be glad to know Republican voters think they're idiots.
Similar situations exist for other goods made in China.
Spew your delusions all you want. Self delusion is all you have.
What would it cost to make these goods in the USA.
More, obviously, so the profit margin would not be as high and the shareholders not as happy.
The profit margin would be fine because the price would go up. The consumer suffers, not
the Board.
The upside is we, the US have total control over the product and while not critical for sneakers,
it is for other manufactured goods.
Like what?
Marx claimed that capitalism, by it's own logic,
would eventually be its own undoing. Unfortunately
Marxism doesn't work at all .... which leaves us
with the good ole Lords and Serfs paradigm, kinda
the default historical norm. Wait 'till the Woke
try to protest the Lords .......
This is basically what the elite are looking for.
It will be them, the ultra wealthy, and the rest of us poor.
That is Republican policy. Cut taxes for the rich, opportunities for the middle and
benefits for the poor.
It's happening already as the wealthy are becoming super wealthy and the rest of us, not so much.
Due mostly to Republican coddling and tax cuts.
You don't care about the wealthy getting richer and the rest of us getting poorer or you
wouldn't support Republicans.
Swill
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On 2024-02-13, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 15:19:03 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-13, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 3:51 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-02-12, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 1:20 AM, Gronk wrote:Major problem especially for medical supplies and the like.
68g.1503 wrote:
Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
Oh?
https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Trump-merchandise-keeps-com
ing-out-of-China-16209910.php
Trump merchandise keeps coming out of China
May 28, 2021
EVERYBODY'S merchandise keeps coming out of China, dumb-ass.
It's a big problem.
China controls us via trade.
They can stop selling to the US any time they want to.
And at some point they will.
It's a weapon as powerfully dangerous to the USA as
a nuke arsenal, but doesn't leave fallout - just a
bunch of starving 3rd-world slaves.
It's even worse because it will affect the entire country all at once.
And we LET ourselves get into this position.
Indeed.
Corporate greed and the stupidity of the American public.
It's all a race to please the shareholders and nothing more.
ROTFL! A Republican voter complaining about corporate greed and pleasing the
shareholders!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
I'm not a republican voter.
I voted for Obama 2x and Clinton as well.
On 2024-02-13, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 3:51 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-02-12, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 1:20 AM, Gronk wrote:Major problem especially for medical supplies and the like.
68g.1503 wrote:
Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
Oh?
https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Trump-merchandise-keeps-com >>>>> ing-out-of-China-16209910.php
Trump merchandise keeps coming out of China
May 28, 2021
EVERYBODY'S merchandise keeps coming out of China, dumb-ass.
It's a big problem.
China controls us via trade.
They can stop selling to the US any time they want to.
And at some point they will.
It's a weapon as powerfully dangerous to the USA as
a nuke arsenal, but doesn't leave fallout - just a
bunch of starving 3rd-world slaves.
It's even worse because it will affect the entire country all at once.
And we LET ourselves get into this position.
Indeed.
Corporate greed and the stupidity of the American public.
It's all a race to please the shareholders and nothing more.
So they make a pair of sneakers in China for a total cost, including shipping for $20.00 including
shipping to the USA and the pair get sold for $250 because the buying public are idiots.
Similar situations exist for other goods made in China.
What would it cost to make these goods in the USA.and the rest of us, not so much.
More, obviously, so the profit margin would not be as high and the shareholders not as happy.
The upside is we, the US have total control over the product and while not critical for sneakers,
it is for other manufactured goods.
Marx claimed that capitalism, by it's own logic,
would eventually be its own undoing. Unfortunately
Marxism doesn't work at all .... which leaves us
with the good ole Lords and Serfs paradigm, kinda
the default historical norm. Wait 'till the Woke
try to protest the Lords .......
This is basically what the elite are looking for.
It will be them, the ultra wealthy, and the rest of us poor.
It's happening already as the wealthy are becoming super wealthy
On 2/13/24 5:49 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-02-13, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 15:19:03 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-13, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 3:51 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-02-12, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 1:20 AM, Gronk wrote:Major problem especially for medical supplies and the like.
68g.1503 wrote:
Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
Oh?
https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Trump-merchandise-keeps-com
ing-out-of-China-16209910.php
Trump merchandise keeps coming out of China
May 28, 2021
EVERYBODY'S merchandise keeps coming out of China, dumb-ass. >>>>>>>
It's a big problem.
China controls us via trade.
They can stop selling to the US any time they want to.
And at some point they will.
It's a weapon as powerfully dangerous to the USA as
a nuke arsenal, but doesn't leave fallout - just a
bunch of starving 3rd-world slaves.
It's even worse because it will affect the entire country all at once. >>>>
And we LET ourselves get into this position.
Indeed.
Corporate greed and the stupidity of the American public.
It's all a race to please the shareholders and nothing more.
ROTFL! A Republican voter complaining about corporate greed and pleasing the
shareholders!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
I'm not a republican voter.
I voted for Obama 2x and Clinton as well.
That's not really something to brag about ... :-)
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 20:51:57 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
Major problem especially for medical supplies and the like.
China controls us via trade.
Hyperbole. It's a two way street. The whole point is to make everybody dependent on
everybody else so that nobody can risk war.
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:49:04 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-13, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 15:19:03 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2024-02-13, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 3:51 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2024-02-12, 68g.1503 <68g.1504@exr3.net> wrote:
On 2/12/24 1:20 AM, Gronk wrote:Major problem especially for medical supplies and the like.
68g.1503 wrote:
Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
Oh?
https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Trump-merchandise-keeps-com
ing-out-of-China-16209910.php
Trump merchandise keeps coming out of China
May 28, 2021
EVERYBODY'S merchandise keeps coming out of China, dumb-ass. >>>>>>>
It's a big problem.
China controls us via trade.
They can stop selling to the US any time they want to.
And at some point they will.
It's a weapon as powerfully dangerous to the USA as
a nuke arsenal, but doesn't leave fallout - just a
bunch of starving 3rd-world slaves.
It's even worse because it will affect the entire country all at once.
And we LET ourselves get into this position.
Indeed.
Corporate greed and the stupidity of the American public.
It's all a race to please the shareholders and nothing more.
ROTFL! A Republican voter complaining about corporate greed and pleasing the
shareholders!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
I'm not a republican voter.
I voted for Obama 2x and Clinton as well.
You've said you voted for Trump and you support him now.
So they make a pair of sneakers in China for a total cost, including shipping for $20.00 including
I seriously doubt it costs $20 to ship a pair of sneakers from China. They ship by the
thousands in containers. I could Fed Ex a pair for less than that. Once again you prove
that you don't know what you're talking about.
It doesn't.
That's the manufacturing cost as well as the shipping cost.
Both added together.
If Nike can make AND ship a $200 pair of sneakers for $20, why shouldn't they? Nobody is
twisting the consumer's arm and forcing them to not buy generic products.
I'm not a Republican voter.shipping to the USA and the pair get sold for $250 because the buying public are idiots.
The electorate will be glad to know Republican voters think they're idiots. >>
See above.
You've said you voted for Trump and you support him now.
You've been most vociferous in your support for him and your agreement on policy and
principle with several hard right Republicans and libertarians here, all of whom support
Republican candidates and so, presumably, vote for them.
Similar situations exist for other goods made in China.
Spew your delusions all you want. Self delusion is all you have.
Sounds more like the democrat voters who think Biden is doing a great job as POTUS yet can't
mention a single thing that Biden has done which has made THEIR lives better.
He is doing a great job. He's restored our foreign policy to it's former track, he's not
mucking about with the economy so it's doing well, he's successfully gotten passed and
signed a real infrastructure bill and another that well help return strategic and high
value chip making to the US. Legislation he's gotten passed and signed has stimulated
manufacturing facility investment and manufacturing jobs are rising.
Our economic growth is better than most every country and our inflation rate lower. People
are risking prison, violence and death to come to America to make better lives for
themselves. I don't see anybody begging to be let into Russia.
What would it cost to make these goods in the USA.
More, obviously, so the profit margin would not be as high and the shareholders not as happy.
The profit margin would be fine because the price would go up. The consumer suffers, not
the Board.
Nope.
Yep.
The price can only go so high.
People will only pay so much for a given commodity.
The overall profit will be less though and that's the rub.
I suppose both conditions are true to one degree or another. Still, nobody wants to pay
$400 for shoes that cost $80 to make but the will pay $250 for shoes that cost $20 to
make.
The upside is we, the US have total control over the product and while not critical for sneakers,
it is for other manufactured goods.
Like what?
PPE, drugs, electronics, raw materials for solar panels and batteries, the list is endless.
Biden has already been active in creating legislation to turn some of that over to us,
especially chips. We have plenty of raw materials but part of Pax Americana is buying
them from poorer countries, like Chile so they can earn foreign exchange.
Marx claimed that capitalism, by it's own logic,
would eventually be its own undoing. Unfortunately
Marxism doesn't work at all .... which leaves us
with the good ole Lords and Serfs paradigm, kinda
the default historical norm. Wait 'till the Woke
try to protest the Lords .......
This is basically what the elite are looking for.
It will be them, the ultra wealthy, and the rest of us poor.
That is Republican policy. Cut taxes for the rich, opportunities for the middle and
benefits for the poor.
When has a poor person ever created jobs?
Where did I say they did?
You are buying into the old hard line myth.
It's not a myth. Republicans cut taxes for high income earners and have made it easier
for corporations to send jobs overseas thus cutting middle class opportunity.
<https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/511551-donald-trump-has-done-more-for-african-americans-than-we-think/>
"The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill "
You didn't read this article did you? You should have. If you had, you wouldn't have
cited it because it does NOT say what the title would imply.
"He has been one of the best presidents for black Americans, just not for the reasons he
thinks."
And what has he done?
"The election of Trump and spread of his bigotry spraked [sic] unintended effects. One of
these is that white Americans now hear us."
Compare to what the Democrats have done for blacks.
Obama divided the nation, for example.
Republicans did that by their continuous actions against him and vociferous complaining.
They even complained that his jeans were too baggy!
Biden as a senator backed crime bills that unfairly targeted minorities.
The GOP created just such a bill in the nineties and Clinton signed it. Remember the
crack vs cocaine sentencing debates?
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-an-early-biden-crime-bill-created-the-sentencing-
disparity-for-crack-and-cocaine-trafficking/2019/07/28/5cbb4c98-9dcf-11e9-85d6-5211733f92c7_story.
html>
The GOP and Clinton did it first.
It's happening already as the wealthy are becoming super wealthy and the rest of us, not so much.
Due mostly to Republican coddling and tax cuts.
Nope.
Yep. That's exactly what's happening?
Due to offshoring, hidden tax loopholes that the wealthy can take advantage of.
Example: incorporating in Ireland.
<https://www.ocorian.com/insights/six-reasons-why-companies-incorporate-ireland>
Yep. Tax loopholes created mostly by Republican Congresses. If you don't think so, bear
in mind that the GOP has exercised more control of Congress over the past thirty years
than the Dems by far.
I find it amusing that in my lifetime Republican power in government has steadily
increased, but Republicans say American life is steadily getting worse.
If it's the because of Democrats, it must be because Republicans are incompetent and whose
fault is that?
There are any number of Republicans I would support for President. I voted for McCain in
a primary. I nearly voted for Romney but my concern about his religion was just enough to
give Obama four more years. Jon Huntsman was another Republican I liked. Trouble is the
GOP keeps putting people like Palin and Trump on their tickets. I'd sooner open a vein
that vote for that sort.
Swill
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 00:45:11 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
Yea.
In retrospect it wasn't but the alternatives were worse.
Actually, at least financially, Clinton did good for me.
Obama not so much.
Not his fault. He inherited the sickest economy in eighty years. It took more than a
decade to repair the damage the Republicans caused.
Swill
Read today that unemployment has dropped to 3.4%. The last
time it was that low was 1968.
Tell us again how lousy the economy is.
On 2/12/24 1:20 AM, Gronk wrote:
68g.1503 wrote:
Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
Oh?
https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Trump-merchandise-keeps-com
ing-out-of-China-16209910.php
Trump merchandise keeps coming out of China
May 28, 2021
EVERYBODY'S merchandise keeps coming out of China, dumb-ass.
It's a big problem.
68g.1503 wrote:
On 2/12/24 1:20 AM, Gronk wrote:
68g.1503 wrote:
Joe/Hunter got a lot of money from China too.
Oh?
https://www.thetelegraph.com/insider/article/Trump-merchandise-keeps-com >>> ing-out-of-China-16209910.php
Trump merchandise keeps coming out of China
May 28, 2021
EVERYBODY'S merchandise keeps coming out of China, dumb-ass.
It's a big problem.
Is these a problems?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-money-china-president-hotels-town- hall-1859710
Donald Trump Admits He Received
Money From China While President
Jan 11, 2024
Donald Trump admitted he did receive
money from foreign governments such
as China while he was president, as
his business was providing a "service"
for them.
Speaking at a Fox News town hall on
Wednesday night, the former president
defended himself from accusations
made in a recent report from
Democrats on the House Oversight
Committee which accused him of
accepting payments from foreign
governments from countries such as
China, Saudi Arabia and Qatar while
in office.
The report accused Trump of violating
the U.S. Constitution's foreign
emoluments clause, which prohibits
federal officials from accepting
money or gifts from foreign
governments without permission from
Congress, after overseas officials
stayed in his real estate company's
hotels and apartments during his
time in the White House.
The January 4 report alleged that
four businesses owned by Trump
received around $7.8 million from
20 countries during his time in
office, including at least $5.5
million from China, during his
first two years as president.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-zte-order-after-china-gave-millions-to-trump-organization-tied-project-2018-5
Within three days of the Chinese government agreeing
to provide $500 million in loans to an Indonesian theme
park that the Trump Organization has a deal to license
President Donald Trump's name to, the president
stunningly ordered sanctions be rescinded against
a major Chinese telecom company.
As AFP reported via the South China Morning Post last
week, the developer of that project just outside of
Jakarta had secured the half billion in funding, in
addition to another $500 million from Chinese banks,
72 hours before Trump's Sunday tweet on the Chinese
telecom company ZTE. Trump's family business has a
deal with that developer to include the Trump name on
the resort, which also includes hotels and a golf course.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2018/05/14/trump-to-rescue-chinas-zte-save-thousands-of-jobs-and-billions-of-dollars-to-u-s-tech-industry/#1f49093816c8
On Sunday, President Trump tweeted that he and Chinese
President Xi "are working together to give massive Chinese
phone company, ZTE, a way to get bac into business, fast.
Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been
instructed to get it done!"
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/521997-tax-records-show-trump-maintains-a-chinese-bank-account-nyt
President Trump's tax records show that China is one of three
foreign countries where he maintains a bank account, The New
York Times reported Tuesday.
The account is controlled by Trump International Hotels
Management LLC, which paid $188,561 in taxes in China from
2013 to 2015, according to the Times.
In addition to the Chinese account, Trump also has bank
accounts in the United Kingdom and Ireland. The president's
foreign bank accounts are held under corporate names and as
a result don't appear on the president's
public financial disclosure forms, the Times reported.
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