On 03 Jun 2023, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> posted some news:lGVeM.859437$PXw7.227802@fx45.iad:
Oozing scarlet red from my butthole. Need more lube!
A lawyer for the co-defendant said she had a witness who could testify
that the relationship began before Fani Willis, the Fulton County district attorney, hired Nathan Wade.
A lawyer for one of former President Donald J. TrumpÂ’s co-defendants in
the Georgia election case suggested on Friday that the two prosecutors leading the case had lied about when their romantic relationship started.
The defense lawyer, Ashleigh Merchant, said that a witness she hoped to
put on the stand could testify that the romantic relationship between Fani
T. Willis, the Fulton County district attorney, and the special prosecutor managing the Trump case, Nathan J. Wade, had begun before Ms. Willis hired Mr. Wade.
That would contradict Mr. Wade, who said in a recent affidavit that his relationship with Ms. Willis had not begun until 2022, after his hiring.
The affidavit was attached to a court filing made by Ms. Willis.
Ms. Merchant identified the witness as Terrence Bradley, a lawyer who once worked in Mr. Wade’s law firm and for a time served as Mr. Wade’s divorce lawyer. “Bradley has non-privileged, personal knowledge that the romantic relationship between Wade and Willis began prior to Willis being sworn as
the district attorney for Fulton County, Georgia in 2021,” Ms. Merchant’s filing, which came late Friday afternoon, states.
Ms. Merchant, on behalf of her client Michael Roman, a former Trump
campaign official, is seeking to have Mr. Wade, Ms. Willis and Ms.
WillisÂ’s entire office disqualified from the Trump case. Ms. Merchant
argues that the romantic relationship, as well as vacations the
prosecutors took together that were paid for at least in part by Mr. Wade, amount to a conflict of interest.
“It is evident that the district attorney and her personally appointed special prosecutor have enriched themselves off this case,” Ms. Merchant wrote.
In court filings last week, Ms. Willis and Mr. Wade acknowledged a
romantic relationship after they had declined to address the matter for almost a month. But Ms. Willis also dismissed the effort to have her taken off the Trump case as a publicity stunt with little legal merit. Last
week, she asked the judge in the case to deny Ms. MerchantÂ’s motion
without an evidentiary hearing, which she said would intrude into her personal life and amount to “a ticket to the circus.”
That prompted Ms. MerchantÂ’s latest filing on Friday, in which she argued that such a hearing was necessary to sort out the facts of the
relationship.
Jeff DiSantis, a spokesman for Ms. WillisÂ’s office, declined to comment on the new filing on Friday evening. Mr. Bradley could not be reached for comment.
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The judge, Scott McAfee of Fulton County Superior Court, has scheduled a hearing on the allegations for Thursday. Ms. Merchant has subpoenaed at
least a dozen potential witnesses, including Mr. Bradley, Mr. Wade and Ms. Willis, and a number of other people in the district attorneyÂ’s office.
Ms. Willis is seeking to quash those subpoenas, and the judge has set a hearing for Monday on the matter.
A number of legal experts have argued that the details of the romantic relationship do not amount to a conflict of interest under Georgia law. If the judge agrees, he could ostensibly decide to bar any testimony about
the two prosecutorsÂ’ personal lives.
Ms. Willis has told the court that she “disputes” the idea that Mr.
Bradley has any information relevant to the case. She has also argued that any information he might have would be protected by attorney-client
privilege — given that he once served as Mr. Wade’s divorce lawyer — and thus inadmissible in court.
Ms. Merchant, on Friday, wrote that Mr. Bradley had “obtained information about the relationship between Wade and Willis directly from Wade when
Wade was not seeking legal advice from Bradley.”
She added, “Bradley obtained this information in a personal capacity as Wade’s friend prior to Wade’s decision to file for divorce.”
Ms. Merchant, in her filing, raised a number of other reasons that she believes Ms. Willis should be taken off the case, including statements and access that Ms. Willis gave to the authors of a recent book about the
Trump case. Ms. Merchant said those statements were part of an effort to “prejudice Mr. Roman and poison the jury pool.”
A number of other defendants have also asked the judge to have the prosecutors disqualified and the case dismissed. Among them is Mr. Trump, whose lawyers have argued that Ms. Willis violated state bar rules when
she gave a speech last month suggesting that racism was a factor in the scrutiny of her and Mr. Wade.
Mr. Trump has also joined Mr. RomanÂ’s motion concerning the romantic relationship.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/09/us/trump-co-defendant-willis-georgia- relationship.html
This is what happens when hiring / appointing people based upon DEI.
You usually end up with incompetent losers.
And these two are real doozys.
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024, pothead wrote:
This is what happens when hiring / appointing people based upon DEI.
You usually end up with incompetent losers.
And these two are real doozys.
Don't worry, if the democrats insist on continuing to front Biden for president Trump will win the election 100%.
The only thing that scares me is that the democrats will push some
emergency eject button and replace him with a charismatic, 45-year old, center/right democrat. Then Trump has no chance.
On 2024-02-11, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024, pothead wrote:
This is what happens when hiring / appointing people based upon DEI.
You usually end up with incompetent losers.
And these two are real doozys.
Don't worry, if the democrats insist on continuing to front Biden for
president Trump will win the election 100%.
The only thing that scares me is that the democrats will push some
emergency eject button and replace him with a charismatic, 45-year old,
center/right democrat. Then Trump has no chance.
That is true however the far left contingent of the DNC, ie:AOC and so forth wouldn't allow it.
They are hell bent on the green new deal, open borders, spending, wars, welfare states etc
destroying the country.
The DNC is shrewd though so nothing would surprse me.
The DNC is shrewd though so nothing would surprse me.
Let's hope they are intent on sabotaging themselves! =)
On 2024-02-11, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
The DNC is shrewd though so nothing would surprse me.
Let's hope they are intent on sabotaging themselves! =)
To me it has less to do with intent than with too few braincells
attempting to keep too many inconsistent world/people view claims simultaneously coexistent.
To me it has less to do with intent than with too few
braincells attempting to keep too many inconsistent
world/people view claims simultaneously coexistent.
That reminds me of 1984. Isn't that just a mind control
technique? Training yourself to be _able_ to have those
inconsistent views? That shows top achievement within the
realm of politics! ;)
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:53:14 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, oldernow wrote:
On 2024-02-11, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
The DNC is shrewd though so nothing would surprse me.
Let's hope they are intent on sabotaging themselves! =)
To me it has less to do with intent than with too few braincells
attempting to keep too many inconsistent world/people view claims
simultaneously coexistent.
That reminds me of 1984. Isn't that just a mind control technique?
Training yourself to be _able_ to have those inconsistent views? That
shows top achievement within the realm of politics! ;)
Yet another right wing bigot proves he doesn't know what he's talking about.
"1984" was about enforcing conformity and obedience, not diversity.
You can't have conformity and obedience if you allow people to have their own thoughts.
Swill
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On 2024-02-13, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
To me it has less to do with intent than with too few
braincells attempting to keep too many inconsistent
world/people view claims simultaneously coexistent.
That reminds me of 1984. Isn't that just a mind control
technique? Training yourself to be _able_ to have those
inconsistent views? That shows top achievement within the
realm of politics! ;)
The better the politician, the more better the ability to quickly
and deeply context switch between related *and* disparate topics, convincingly becoming a subject matter expert you and everyone
else - BUT ESPECIALLY *YOU* - can trust.
BTW, what's this libertarian stuff we're allegedly gathered here
to discuss?
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 17:04:42 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
"1984" was about enforcing conformity and obedience, not diversity.
You can't have conformity and obedience if you allow people to have their own thoughts.
Racist Swill, racist.
What's racist about that?
Swill
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The DNC is not one brain but it makes sense that a
conservative would think of it that way.
The DNC is a group of many brains, each allowed independent
thought.
The RNC is a group of many brains, all required to think
the same thoughts.
The GOP is fragmented because the very *nature* of
conservatism is conformity, homogeneity, obedience to
authority and unchanging sameness. But the Party is
finding that not all its members are in agreement and some
of them want change so it shows cracks and weak spots.
By nature, the DNC can function when its members are not
all in agreement but the RNC, by *its* nature, cannot.
Are you guys discussing freedom of thought and diversity of opinion?
The better the politician, the more better the ability to
quickly and deeply context switch between related *and*
disparate topics, convincingly becoming a subject matter
expert you and everyone else - BUT ESPECIALLY *YOU* -
can trust.
Agreed. The swedish socialists reverse their stance on
Nato in about a weekend. The funniest one said on friday
"I promise, sweden will never join", and I think next week
said "we're joining".
There is another socialist politician who never had
anything to do with Hamas, and quickly the media dug out
that he'd been attending Hamas events.
Classic politician! =)
BTW, what's this libertarian stuff we're allegedly gathered
here to discuss?
Good question! My hope is that this group will slowly
become an outlet for deep and meaningful thoughts about
libertariaism!
But sadly it's mostly democrats, so what can one do beside
trolling and enjoying their emotional outburst from time
to time. ;)
On 2024-02-13, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
The DNC is not one brain but it makes sense that a
conservative would think of it that way.
The DNC is a group of many brains, each allowed independent
thought.
The RNC is a group of many brains, all required to think
the same thoughts.
The GOP is fragmented because the very *nature* of
conservatism is conformity, homogeneity, obedience to
authority and unchanging sameness.
But the Party is
finding that not all its members are in agreement and some
of them want change so it shows cracks and weak spots.
"oldernow" <oldernow@dev.null> wrote in message news:slrnusnsld.srk.oldernow@oldernow.jethrick.com...
On 2024-02-13, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
The DNC is not one brain but it makes sense that a
conservative would think of it that way.
The DNC is a group of many brains, each allowed independent
thought.
And yet you complain how there are disagreements among Republicans..
which is the result of independent thought.. and how
Democrats don't have that issues.. which is the result of
a lack of independent thought.
The RNC is a group of many brains, all required to think
the same thoughts.
The GOP is fragmented because the very *nature* of
conservatism is conformity, homogeneity, obedience to
authority and unchanging sameness.
First you claim uniformity of thought.. then admit there
is no such uniformity of thought.
Takes a special kind of stupid to make a claim and then
immediately admit you lied.
But the Party is
finding that not all its members are in agreement and some
of them want change so it shows cracks and weak spots.
Further confirming there isn't the uniformity of thought
you asserted.
There is another socialist politician who never had
anything to do with Hamas, and quickly the media dug out
that he'd been attending Hamas events.
Classic politician! =)
Journalists are of similar integrity ilk. As with politicians and
votes, journalists do/say anything - aka "The News" - to get more
attention on the advertising that is their proprietors' *actual*
product.
Good question! My hope is that this group will slowly
become an outlet for deep and meaningful thoughts about
libertariaism!
If you're holding your breath, you have my permission to yell
something derogatory about Joe Biden, and then sneak breaths while
those who have to keep publicly doubling down on supporting someone *obviously* not fit for the job lose their shit in the vicinity of
your post.
But sadly it's mostly democrats, so what can one do beside
trolling and enjoying their emotional outburst from time
to time. ;)
I just figure they're *necessarily* as cognitively astute as
their vacuously headed/conscience-d idol, and thus do I tend to
refrain from imagining I could have interesting conversations with
them. Their responses will likely be mostly ridiculously biased
prattle, because that's apparently the upper limit of their word
prowess - not to mention what their idol models for them on a
regular basis.
Oh tell me about it! A "journalist" within IT I've heard
about gives his 5 star reviews to the vendors that give him
the most expensive whiskey during their demonstrations. ;)
Other journalists have their agenda, and completely
disregard the facts if those facts contradicts their
agenda. Very frustrating!
Haha, yes why not?
Biden... is not so good. ;)
True. I find that the trick is to have fun with them. If
they think you are serious, then the real fun begins,
but I suspect that the most jaded and experienced ones
have massive killfiles where my name is located. ;)
Oh tell me about it! A "journalist" within IT I've heard
about gives his 5 star reviews to the vendors that give him
the most expensive whiskey during their demonstrations. ;)
It amazes me the same people that know this is how interactions
*actually* work can somehow still believe it matters which
political/economic "system" we're "under".
Haha, yes why not?
Biden... is not so good. ;)
Whoa, Nellie! How about *easing* into it....? :-)
True. I find that the trick is to have fun with them. If
they think you are serious, then the real fun begins,
but I suspect that the most jaded and experienced ones
have massive killfiles where my name is located. ;)
I'm working hard to hopefully wind up there was well.
Well, that's not a binary question, it's a question of
degrees. So we're not in the perfect system, but the
system we are living in is way better than the USSR.
Sorry, sorry! Let me try again. Biden... is suboptimal! ;)
True. I find that the trick is to have fun with them. If
they think you are serious, then the real fun begins,
but I suspect that the most jaded and experienced ones
have massive killfiles where my name is located. ;)
I'm working hard to hopefully wind up there was well.
I will pray for you!
On 2024-02-15, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Well, that's not a binary question, it's a question of
degrees. So we're not in the perfect system, but the
system we are living in is way better than the USSR.
How do you know it's the system and not the people?
Sorry, sorry! Let me try again. Biden... is suboptimal! ;)
You are cruisin' for a BLUEsin'!
Well, that's not a binary question, it's a question of
degrees. So we're not in the perfect system, but the system
we are living in is way better than the USSR.
How do you know it's the system and not the people?
I think that is a matter of definition. A system "lives in"
people and is expressed through people. So I think you
could say that it could be the people governed by "the
system". Or did I just have an accident while thinking?
Sorry, sorry! Let me try again. Biden... is suboptimal! ;)
You are cruisin' for a BLUEsin'!
You can teach old dogs new tricks apparently! Now the trap
is set, and I'm just waiting for the political opponents
to walk right into it! ;)
and politically biased.
Yeah, I'm biased toward the center.
And I don't appreciate radical extremists explaining
themselves but attributing those observations to me.
Typically partisan, you project your own feelings,
objectives and methods onto others.
My condolences if you're convinced getting words to appear
on others' screens constitutes accomplishing anything
important. If you're trying to do that, I'd recommend
finding and helping others in need....
I'd be glad to help you out. ;)
If you feel like reversing what I wrote, have at it.
Nothing changes the fact that Democrats can all think
different things and arrive at consensus while Republicans
have to do whatever Authority tells them to do regardless
of their own views.
He was replying to me. View his post to which you've
replied. It seems that somehow YOU have screwed up the
attributions.
Again, those weren't my words, yet you respond to them as
though they were.
Again, note the same number of quote marks in front of
his statements as there are in front of the statements
he's replying to. YOU messed up the quote marks.
On 2024-02-16, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
He was replying to me. View his post to which you've
replied. It seems that somehow YOU have screwed up the
attributions.
Thank you! I just won a huge bet that not only would you consider
such my fault, but that you would do so emphatically, e.g. "YOU"!
I think that is a matter of definition. A system "lives in"
people and is expressed through people. So I think you
could say that it could be the people governed by "the
system". Or did I just have an accident while thinking?
I'm not sure how to tell the difference between whether systems
drive people, or people behave per self interested in ways that
at a meta level of behavior observation can appear to be a system
driving people.
Faith in a theory has a way of making said theory seem so,
you see....
Sorry, sorry! Let me try again. Biden... is suboptimal! ;)
You are cruisin' for a BLUEsin'!
You can teach old dogs new tricks apparently! Now the trap
is set, and I'm just waiting for the political opponents
to walk right into it! ;)
Personally I think your trap could use a little bit more
Kamala.... ;-)
He was replying to me. View his post to which you've
replied. It seems that somehow YOU have screwed up the
attributions.
Thank you! I just won a huge bet that not only would
you consider such my fault, but that you would do so
emphatically, e.g. "YOU"!
Aha! So older buys the beers then! ;)
I'm not sure how to tell the difference between whether
systems drive people, or people behave per self interested
in ways that at a meta level of behavior observation can
appear to be a system driving people.
I guess it depends on where you place the starting
point. If you think that we think, and act based on our
thoughts, then systems, as in thought packages we ingest
or are brought up in, drive our behaviour.
Faith in a theory has a way of making said theory seem so,
you see....
True. But every political theory eventually meets reality,
and there it is proven if it is sound or not.
On the other hand, continuously crashing socialist
experiments doesn't seem to convince socialists of how
untennable their beliefs are, so perhaps reality as a
"reality check" is overrated? ;)
You can teach old dogs new tricks apparently! Now the trap
is set, and I'm just waiting for the political opponents
to walk right into it! ;)
Personally I think your trap could use a little bit more
Kamala.... ;-)
Ahh!
Well, what if I told you that I think Kamala once added
too much salt in her soup?
Take that you democrats! ;)
On 2024-02-16, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
He was replying to me. View his post to which you've
replied. It seems that somehow YOU have screwed up the
attributions.
Thank you! I just won a huge bet that not only would
you consider such my fault, but that you would do so
emphatically, e.g. "YOU"!
Aha! So older buys the beers then! ;)
A round of Hacker-Pschorr it is, then!
A round of Hacker-Pschorr it is, then!
That's a good one! Hmm, if memory serves, I think they
had a tent at Oktoberfest in M=FCnchen, but that was many
years ago.
To me, if we're to say a system is driving people, there
ought to be some evidence that the people are, first off,
aware of the details of the system, and furthermore make
choices and/or act in accord with them.
I disagree. People can be easily manipulated without
their knowledge. So yes, a system can drive behavior
without the driven being aware of what is happening.
A round of Hacker-Pschorr it is, then!
Got a Creemore Lager handy?
At this point I suspecting USENET isn't much more than
brushstroke width contest....
Conversations typically have to work in generalities
because we don't have precise statistics for many of our
claims/beliefs.
Yeah, I'm biased toward the center.
What fundamental beliefs constitute "the center"?
Don't believe either side. Compare them and you'll find
the truth is usually somewhere in the middle, or at least
both sides will have different pieces of it.
Not having extremist views usually indicates some degree
of centrism. Agreeing with both sides on different facets
indicates centrism. Being excoriated by both sides is
probably the best test for centrism. :)
There is a whiff of troll about you, but you're ok! :)
Got a Creemore Lager handy?
Never heard of it before, but hopefully I'll remember the name next
time I'm in a place proud of its beer inventory.
You can get it in Toronto.
There is a whiff of troll about you, but you're ok! :)
More a "part time needler", if you will. Opportunities present
themselves, and I've difficulty resisting. But I think I'm even
centrist about that, because I rather enjoy return fire so long as
it's generally nuanced/intelligent.
When I was in tech support, my supervisor noted that,
"you don't suffer fools gladly".
I changed jobs not long after.
When I was in tech support, my supervisor noted that, "you don't
suffer fools gladly".
I changed jobs not long after.
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