• Greg Abbott declares Texas' right to self-defense 'supersedes federal s

    From Biden Lie 'brary'@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 26 07:49:09 2024
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    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday proclaimed that the Lone Star State’s
    right to self-defense “supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary”
    amid a feud with the Biden administration over border security.

    Abbott’s statement of defiance comes on the heels of a standoff over razor
    wire the state has laid across the US-Mexico border despite a US Supreme
    Court ruling permitting the federal government to remove that barrier.

    “Visionaries who wrote the U.S. Constitution foresaw that states should
    not be left to the mercy of a lawless president who does nothing to stop external threats like cartels smuggling millions of illegal immigrants
    across the border,” Abbott said.

    The Lone Star State Republican argued that because the federal government
    has failed to safeguard Texas from an invasion, the state has the “constitutional authority to defend” itself.

    “That authority is the supreme law of the land and supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary,” Abbott stressed.

    Biden administration officials rejected that assertion, contending that
    the Constitution is actually the supreme law of the land.

    “As we have said many times before, Governor Abbott should stop his
    extreme political stunts and stop making it harder and more dangerous for Border Patrol to do their jobs,” a White House spokesperson told The Post.

    On Monday, the Supreme Court determined in a 5-4 ruling that federal
    agents can remove the sharp concertina wire placed at sections of the
    border, while a lawsuit on the matter plays out.

    President Biden’s administration argued this authority was necessary so
    border officials responding to medical and other emergencies aren’t
    impeded by the fencing.

    Texas laid down the wire in a bid to dissuade migrants from traversing high-traffic sites.

    Last year, the Lone Star State sued the Biden administration to stop the wire-cutting.

    Despite the ruling, Abbott pledged that the state would “continue to
    deploy this razor wire to repel illegal immigration.”

    The razor-wire feud went unmentioned in his missive about Texas’ right to self-defense. However, he alleged that Biden “has refused to enforce those [immigration] laws and has even violated them.”

    “More than 6 million illegal immigrants have crossed our southern border
    in just 3 years. That is more than the population of 33 different States
    in this country,” Abbott groused.

    During fiscal year 2023, a record-breaking 2,475,669 migrant encounters
    were recorded at the southern border, according to US Customs and Border Protection.

    Preliminary data indicate over 300,000 migrant encounters were recorded
    last December.

    Abbott has been testing the limits of state power to combat the simmering border crisis.

    Under Operation Lone Star, his administration claims to have shipped over 100,000 migrants to blue cities and conducted over 496,000 illegal
    immigrant apprehensions.

    The governor has quarreled with the Biden administration over immigration policy repeatedly.

    Earlier this month, the administration threatened to sue Texas if the
    state detains illegal immigrants under state law.

    Texas has a law on the books to that effect set to take effect in March.

    The Justice Department has sued Texas over its use of a floating barrier
    in the Rio Grande. Texas recently scored a victory from an appeals court
    on that matter.

    Earlier this month, Texas authorities cordoned off a park in Eagle Pass to impede migrants and even unauthorized Border Patrol agents from entering.

    The Department of Homeland Security declined to comment on the record.

    https://nypost.com/2024/01/24/news/greg-abbott-declares-texas-right-to- self-defense-supersedes-any-federal-statutes/
     

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Biden Lie 'brary' on Fri Jan 26 09:29:20 2024
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    "Biden Lie 'brary'" <biden-liebrary@usa.dump> wrote in message news:uovo5k$2iik$3@news.tambov.ru...
    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday proclaimed that the Lone Star State's right to self-defense "supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary"
    amid a feud with the Biden administration over border security.

    Abbott's statement of defiance comes on the heels of a standoff over razor wire the state has laid across the US-Mexico border despite a US Supreme Court ruling permitting the federal government to remove that barrier.


    Let's put it this way..

    The purpose of the Border Patrol is to prevent illegal crossings and to run
    the authorized points of entry.

    If the State of Texas makes it hard/impossible for people to illegally cross the border at some, any, or ever point that it's a legal point of entry....

    Then all that does is give the Border Patrol very little to do.

    In effect, it would be like telling people they couldn't lock their front
    doors because police need to enter the home apprehend trespassers.

    But if the locks keep the trespassers out,, then why would the police need
    to enter?

    So as long at they aren't blockading designated ports of entry.. it doesn't matter how hard they make it to cross as they shouldn't be crossing there anyway.
    Further they are perfectly free to patrol the river, and along the American side of the barriers to apprehend those that crossed illegally.

    There is absolutely NOTHING that Texas is doing to prohibits or impedes the Border Patrol from carrying out their legal mission.

    If anything, they will have LESS to do .

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri Jan 26 12:15:53 2024
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    On 1/26/2024 7:29 AM, Scout wrote:
    "Biden Lie 'brary'" <biden-liebrary@usa.dump> wrote:

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday proclaimed that the Lone Star State's
    right to self-defense "supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary"
    amid a feud with the Biden administration over border security.

    Abbott's statement of defiance comes on the heels of a standoff over
    razor wire the state has laid across the US-Mexico border despite a US Supreme
    Court ruling permitting the federal government to remove that barrier.


    Let's put it this way..

    The purpose of the Border Patrol is to prevent illegal crossings and to
    run the authorized points of entry.

    If the State of Texas makes it hard/impossible for people to illegally
    cross the border at some, any, or ever point that it's a legal point of entry....

    Then all that does is give the Border Patrol very little to do.

    In effect, it would be like telling people they couldn't lock their
    front doors because police need to enter the home apprehend trespassers.

    But if the locks keep the trespassers out,, then why would the police
    need to enter?

    So as long at they aren't blockading designated ports of entry.. it
    doesn't matter how hard they make it to cross as they shouldn't be
    crossing there anyway.
    Further they are perfectly free to patrol the river, and along the
    American side of the barriers to apprehend those that crossed illegally.

    There is absolutely NOTHING that Texas is doing to prohibits or impedes
    the Border Patrol from carrying out their legal mission.

    If anything, they will have LESS to do .

    Indeed. Texas border control efforts make it EASIER for the
    federal Border Patrol to do its job. The current administration
    uses Orwell's "1984" as a how-to manual. This is doublespeak
    pure and simple.

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 26 12:03:41 2024
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    On 1/26/2024 11:15 AM, Francis Mark Hansen <fmhlaw@comcast.net>, sleazy rent-skip chaser, possible polygamist and irrational gun nut, lied:

    On 1/26/2024 7:29 AM, scooter lied:
    "Biden Lie 'brary'" <biden-liebrary@usa.dump> wrote:

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday proclaimed that the Lone Star State's >>> right to self-defense "supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary"
    amid a feud with the Biden administration over border security.

    Abbott's statement of defiance comes on the heels of a standoff over razor >>> wire the state has laid across the US-Mexico border despite a US Supreme >>> Court ruling permitting the federal government to remove that barrier.


    Let's put it this way..

    [snip scooter's illogical bullshit]

    Indeed.  Texas border control efforts make it EASIER for the
    federal Border Patrol to do its job.

    No, Francis, you stupid fuck. It makes it harder. It makes it so they can't reach the actual border.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Michael A Terrell on Fri Jan 26 17:31:25 2024
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    On 1/26/2024 1:03 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 Just Wondering wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 7:29 AM, scooter lied:
    "Biden Lie 'brary'"wrote:

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday proclaimed that the Lone Star
    State's
    right to self-defense "supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary" >>>> amid a feud with the Biden administration over border security.

    Abbott's statement of defiance comes on the heels of a standoff over
    razor wire the state has laid across the US-Mexico border despite a
    US Supreme
    Court ruling permitting the federal government to remove that barrier.

    Let's put it this way..

    [snip scooter's illogical bullshit]

    Indeed.  Texas border control efforts make it EASIER for the
    federal Border Patrol to do its job.

    No. It makes it harder. It makes it so they
    can't reach the actual border.

    Federal Border Control critters don't need to reach the
    border where the border is already secured by the state
    so there are no illegals there for the Feds to catch.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Just Wondering on Fri Jan 26 16:59:32 2024
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    On 1/26/2024 4:31 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 1:03 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 Just Wondering wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 7:29 AM, scooter lied:
    "Biden Lie 'brary'"wrote:

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday proclaimed that the Lone Star
    State's
    right to self-defense "supersedes any federal statutes to the
    contrary"
    amid a feud with the Biden administration over border security.

    Abbott's statement of defiance comes on the heels of a standoff
    over razor wire the state has laid across the US-Mexico border
    despite a US Supreme
    Court ruling permitting the federal government to remove that barrier. >>>>
    Let's put it this way..

    [snip scooter's illogical bullshit]

    Indeed.  Texas border control efforts make it EASIER for the
    federal Border Patrol to do its job.

    No. It makes it harder. It makes it so they can't reach the actual
    border.

    Federal Border Control critters don't need to reach the
    border where the border is already secured by the state
    so there are no illegals there for the Feds to catch.

    The federal government alone determines how to secure the border. Texas
    is not permitted to institute its own plans when the federal government
    does not approve.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Fri Jan 26 20:33:40 2024
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    On 1/26/2024 5:59 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 4:31 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 1:03 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 Just Wondering wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 7:29 AM, scooter lied:
    "Biden Lie 'brary'"wrote:

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday proclaimed that the Lone Star
    State's
    right to self-defense "supersedes any federal statutes to the
    contrary"
    amid a feud with the Biden administration over border security.

    Abbott's statement of defiance comes on the heels of a standoff
    over razor wire the state has laid across the US-Mexico border
    despite a US Supreme
    Court ruling permitting the federal government to remove that
    barrier.

    Let's put it this way..

    [snip scooter's illogical bullshit]

    Indeed.  Texas border control efforts make it EASIER for the
    federal Border Patrol to do its job.

    No. It makes it harder. It makes it so they can't reach the actual
    border.

    Federal Border Control critters don't need to reach the
    border where the border is already secured by the state
    so there are no illegals there for the Feds to catch.

    The federal government alone determines how to secure the border. Texas
    is not permitted to institute its own plans when the federal government
    does not approve.

    It's bold of you to take such an intransigent position on an unsettled
    point of constitutional law.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Just Wondering on Fri Jan 26 19:52:34 2024
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    On 1/26/2024 7:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 5:59 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 4:31 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 1:03 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 Just Wondering wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 7:29 AM, scooter lied:
    "Biden Lie 'brary'"wrote:

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday proclaimed that the Lone Star >>>>>>> State's
    right to self-defense "supersedes any federal statutes to the
    contrary"
    amid a feud with the Biden administration over border security.

    Abbott's statement of defiance comes on the heels of a standoff
    over razor wire the state has laid across the US-Mexico border
    despite a US Supreme
    Court ruling permitting the federal government to remove that
    barrier.

    Let's put it this way..

    [snip scooter's illogical bullshit]

    Indeed.  Texas border control efforts make it EASIER for the
    federal Border Patrol to do its job.

    No. It makes it harder. It makes it so they can't reach the actual
    border.

    Federal Border Control critters don't need to reach the
    border where the border is already secured by the state
    so there are no illegals there for the Feds to catch.

    The federal government alone determines how to secure the border.
    Texas is not permitted to institute its own plans when the federal
    government does not approve.

    It's bold of you to take such an intransigent position on an unsettled
    point of constitutional law.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/pdf/11-182.pdf

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 26 23:39:21 2024
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    On 1/26/2024 4:31 PM, Francis Mark Hansen <fmhlaw@comcast.net>, sleazy rent-skip
    chaser, possible polygamist and irrational gun nut, lied:

    On 1/26/2024 1:03 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
    On 1/26/2024 Francis Mark Hansen <fmhlaw@comcast.net>, sleazy rent-skip chaser, possible polygamist and irrational gun nut, lied:

    On 1/26/2024 7:29 AM, scooter lied:
    "Biden Lie 'brary'"wrote:

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday proclaimed that the Lone Star State's >>>>> right to self-defense "supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary" >>>>> amid a feud with the Biden administration over border security.

    Abbott's statement of defiance comes on the heels of a standoff over razor
    wire the state has laid across the US-Mexico border despite a US Supreme >>>>> Court ruling permitting the federal government to remove that barrier. >>>>
    Let's put it this way..

    [snip scooter's illogical bullshit]

    Indeed.  Texas border control efforts make it EASIER for the
    federal Border Patrol to do its job.

    No. It makes it harder. It makes it so they can't reach the actual border. >>
    Federal Border Control critters don't need to reach the
    border where the border is already

    Fuck off, Francis, you fucking Nazi. CPB *always* needs to be able to reach the border. The administration of the border is a federal responsibility, not state,
    and that's that.

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