• Raskin's Disturbing Defense of Removing Trump From Ballot Includes Chil

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 9 16:26:58 2024
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    CNN had Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) in on Sunday to talk about the efforts by Democrats to boot former President Donald Trump from the ballot using the
    14th Amendment.

    Raskin made some comments that a lot of people are talking about.

    The first part was what he said about the disqualification process. He had
    the temerity to claim that what they were trying to do against Trump was the most "democratic" form of disqualification. This takes some kind of gall to attempt this level of spin;

    Rep. Jamie Raskin: "Of all the forms of disqualification we have, the
    one that disqualifies people for engaging in insurrection is the most
    democratic because it's the one where people choose themselves to be
    disqualified." pic.twitter.com/5SxPp3UvL8

    — The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) December 31, 2023

    Wow, what horse hockey.

    "Is it undemocratic that Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jennifer Granholm can't
    run for president because they weren't born in the country?" he ridiculously said. "Of all the forms of disqualification we have, the one that
    disqualifies people for engaging in insurrection is the most democratic
    because it's the one where people choose themselves to be disqualified." He then claims that Trump disqualified himself.

    First, the Constitution says you can't run if you aren't a citizen of the
    U.S. That's not questionable. But what does that have to do with the fact
    that you're trying to take away the rights of your political opponent and the rights of the millions who would vote for him (and defeat your weak,
    unpopular candidate)? What a laugh how they claim that they want to "protect democracy," yet they push for this.

    Second, Sec. 5 of the 14th Amendment says Congress shall have the power to enforce the provisions, not every state making up their own minds and having all kinds of political decisions. I wrote about that in talking about the dissent of Colorado Supreme Court Justice Carlos Samour, in addition to all
    the other reasons the 14th Amendment doesn't apply, including that there was
    no insurrection and he wasn't charged under the applicable federal statute,
    18 U.S.C § 2383.

    That was bad enough. But then Raskin went into an attack on the Supreme Court and specifically Justice Clarence Thomas, claiming he should "absolutely
    recuse himself" because of his wife being "involved."

    The ball game folks: Dems want to destroy the Supreme Court.

    Dem Rep. Jamie Raskin says Justice Clarence Thomas "absolutely should
    recuse himself" from decisions on Trump's ballot access, saying "the
    question is, what do we do if he doesn't?" pic.twitter.com/1UHoiPL89O

    — Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) December 31, 2023

    "The question is, what do we do if he doesn't?" Raskin said.

    There's a lot to unpack there. First, that's more horse hockey when it comes
    to Ginni Thomas. There's no evidence at all that she was involved with the riot, which wasn't an insurrection. Second, what was her crime? She believed the election was unfair and had problems, and pushed for people to look into whether it was fair. So?

    Perhaps Raskin needs a reminder of what this guy did. This was him objecting
    to Trump in 2017. Why didn't Dana Bash ask him about this?

    https://youtu.be/bxEr_mRpp44

    Bottom line? Democrats did all kinds of things to object and try to stop
    Trump from taking office, but they failed. Yet now Ginni Thomas is wrong? Oh, please. They demonize "election denialism" but were some of the biggest proponents of it for years.

    But what is Raskin suggesting there at the end, "The question is, what do we
    do if he doesn't?"

    SCOTUS is the final authority. Is he suggesting that they would try to
    undercut the authority of the Supreme Court if they don't like their decision on the matter? What does he think is the alternative here? The House GOP
    asked if he was threatening democracy with these remarks.

    Is @RepRaskin suggesting that we ignore the rulings of the Supreme
    Court?

    Threat to democracy? https://t.co/QanGeqvrKr

    — House Judiciary GOP (@JudiciaryGOP) December 31, 2023

    Many viewed Raskin's remarks as a concerning threat to Justice Thomas.

    Chuck Schumer put a target on Justice Kavanaugh’s back prior to the
    Dobbs ruling and then someone tried to assassinate Kavanaugh

    Now Jamie Raskin is putting a target on Justice Thomas’s back…
    https://t.co/4kNrFyx3H2
    — John Hasson (@SonofHas) December 31, 2023

    Chilling............ https://t.co/PzKHysP5tw
    — Joe Concha (@JoeConchaTV) December 31, 2023

    They want to control everything, and if they can't manipulate the Supreme Court, they want to smear it to undermine its role in society and/or assail
    the Justices they think they can't control. If the Court decides against them on this matter, they will then say the Court is compromised and you can't
    trust their decisions. Talk about "threats to democracy."

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    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Thu Jan 11 08:50:20 2024
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    On 1/9/2024 2:26 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    CNN had Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) in on Sunday to talk about the efforts by Democrats to boot former President Donald Trump from the ballot using the 14th Amendment.

    Raskin made some comments that a lot of people are talking about.

    The first part was what he said about the disqualification process. He had the temerity to claim that what they were trying to do against Trump was the most "democratic" form of disqualification. This takes some kind of gall to attempt this level of spin;

    Rep. Jamie Raskin: "Of all the forms of disqualification we have, the
    one that disqualifies people for engaging in insurrection is the most
    democratic because it's the one where people choose themselves to be
    disqualified." pic.twitter.com/5SxPp3UvL8

    — The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) December 31, 2023

    Wow, what horse hockey.

    "Is it undemocratic that Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jennifer Granholm can't run for president because they weren't born in the country?" he ridiculously said. "Of all the forms of disqualification we have, the one that disqualifies people for engaging in insurrection is the most democratic because it's the one where people choose themselves to be disqualified." He then claims that Trump disqualified himself.

    First, the Constitution says you can't run if you aren't a citizen of the U.S. That's not questionable. But what does that have to do with the fact that you're trying to take away the rights of your political opponent and the rights of the millions who would vote for him (and defeat your weak, unpopular candidate)? What a laugh how they claim that they want to "protect democracy," yet they push for this.

    Second, Sec. 5 of the 14th Amendment says Congress shall have the power to enforce the provisions, not every state making up their own minds and having all kinds of political decisions. I wrote about that in talking about the dissent of Colorado Supreme Court Justice Carlos Samour, in addition to all the other reasons the 14th Amendment doesn't apply, including that there was no insurrection and he wasn't charged under the applicable federal statute, 18 U.S.C § 2383.

    That was bad enough. But then Raskin went into an attack on the Supreme Court and specifically Justice Clarence Thomas, claiming he should "absolutely recuse himself" because of his wife being "involved."

    The ball game folks: Dems want to destroy the Supreme Court.

    What childish bullshit.

    Dem Rep. Jamie Raskin says Justice Clarence Thomas "absolutely should
    recuse himself" from decisions on Trump's ballot access, saying "the
    question is, what do we do if he doesn't?" pic.twitter.com/1UHoiPL89O

    — Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) December 31, 2023

    "The question is, what do we do if he doesn't?" Raskin said.

    There's a lot to unpack there. First, that's more horse hockey when it comes to Ginni Thomas. There's no evidence at all that she was involved with the riot, which wasn't an insurrection. Second, what was her crime? She believed the election was unfair and had problems, and pushed for people to look into whether it was fair. So?

    Wow. So utterly misinformed. Give google a try even if Fox won't tell
    you about current events.


    Perhaps Raskin needs a reminder of what this guy did. This was him objecting to Trump in 2017. Why didn't Dana Bash ask him about this?

    https://youtu.be/bxEr_mRpp44

    Bottom line? Democrats did all kinds of things to object and try to stop Trump from taking office, but they failed. Yet now Ginni Thomas is wrong? Oh, please. They demonize "election denialism" but were some of the biggest proponents of it for years.

    But what is Raskin suggesting there at the end, "The question is, what do we do if he doesn't?"

    SCOTUS is the final authority. Is he suggesting that they would try to undercut the authority of the Supreme Court if they don't like their decision on the matter? What does he think is the alternative here? The House GOP asked if he was threatening democracy with these remarks.

    Is @RepRaskin suggesting that we ignore the rulings of the Supreme
    Court?

    No, because he didn't say that.


    Threat to democracy? https://t.co/QanGeqvrKr

    — House Judiciary GOP (@JudiciaryGOP) December 31, 2023

    Many viewed Raskin's remarks as a concerning threat to Justice Thomas.

    Chuck Schumer put a target on Justice Kavanaugh’s back prior to the
    Dobbs ruling and then someone tried to assassinate Kavanaugh

    Now Jamie Raskin is putting a target on Justice Thomas’s back…
    https://t.co/4kNrFyx3H2
    — John Hasson (@SonofHas) December 31, 2023

    Chilling............ https://t.co/PzKHysP5tw
    — Joe Concha (@JoeConchaTV) December 31, 2023

    They want to control everything, and if they can't manipulate the Supreme Court, they want to smear it to undermine its role in society and/or assail the Justices they think they can't control. If the Court decides against them on this matter, they will then say the Court is compromised and you can't trust their decisions. Talk about "threats to democracy."


    More and more projection.
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    Let's go Brandon!


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