This is insane.
Well at least the Hyundai didn't go up in flames or have the engine blow
up like most of them do.
<https://youtu.be/dr3mFzh0KSk?si=Q8u6TMycDyhk0Dlq>
"This is a Motormouth couple car video discussing the cost to replace the battery in 2022 Hyundai IONIQ 5. After finding out that his battery protection cover was scratched, the owner was told the battery needed to
be replace for more than he paid for the car brand new. Over $60,000, so
he decided to make a claim on his insurance and have the car written off. This is a cautionary tale to not only EV owners and potential owners but
also other manufacturrers, that these kinds of casts are out much more
than consumers are expecting to pay. Hyundai Canada was eventually
notified to the customers concerns but only after the car had been
written off by the insurer. Watch this story and decide for yourself."
This is insane.
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:19:37 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-16, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
ICE vehicle fires are easily extinguished.
EV's?
Not so much.
For every EV fire there are 37 ICE fires. Do you park in an attached garage? You got a
37 times better chance of seeing it burn to the ground if you have an ICE car.
Swill
On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:19:37 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-16, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
ICE vehicle fires are easily extinguished.
EV's?
Not so much.
For every EV fire there are 37 ICE fires. Do you park in an attached
garage? You got a 37 times better chance of seeing it burn to the
ground if you have an ICE car.
Swill
But many are from accidents /crashes.
How many are from spontaneous combustion?
Sure Hyundai and Kia are defects but most others?
I've parked ICE cars in my garage for decades and never had a problem.
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:uln8e8$2vtt2$13@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:19:37 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-16, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
ICE vehicle fires are easily extinguished.
EV's?
Not so much.
For every EV fire there are 37 ICE fires. Do you park in an attached
garage? You got a 37 times better chance of seeing it burn to the
ground if you have an ICE car.
Swill
But many are from accidents /crashes.
How many are from spontaneous combustion?
Sure Hyundai and Kia are defects but most others?
I've parked ICE cars in my garage for decades and never had a problem.
I have kept my Tesla in the
garage for years, no problem.
Neither of our Texla dealerships
have had a problem and they have
been storing Teslas indoors for
years.
(I wish Click and Clack were
still around, they could put this
issue to bed.....)
On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:19:37 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-16, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
ICE vehicle fires are easily extinguished.
EV's?
Not so much.
For every EV fire there are 37 ICE fires. Do you park in an attached garage? You got a
37 times better chance of seeing it burn to the ground if you have an ICE car.
Swill
But many are from accidents /crashes.
On 2023-12-17, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:uln8e8$2vtt2$13@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-17, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:19:37 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-16, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
ICE vehicle fires are easily extinguished.
EV's?
Not so much.
For every EV fire there are 37 ICE fires. Do you park in an
attached garage? You got a 37 times better chance of seeing it
burn to the ground if you have an ICE car.
Swill
But many are from accidents /crashes.
How many are from spontaneous combustion?
Sure Hyundai and Kia are defects but most others?
I've parked ICE cars in my garage for decades and never had a
problem.
I have kept my Tesla in the
garage for years, no problem.
Neither of our Texla dealerships
have had a problem and they have
been storing Teslas indoors for
years.
(I wish Click and Clack were
still around, they could put this
issue to bed.....)
I remember Click and Clack the Tappet brothers on NPR. The weekly
puzzler was my favorite segment of the show.
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:19:37 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-16, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
ICE vehicle fires are easily extinguished.
EV's?
Not so much.
For every EV fire there are 37 ICE fires. Do you park in an attached
garage? You got a 37 times better chance of seeing it burn to the
ground if you have an ICE car.
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
Hyundai, Kia issue recall, warn cars could
spontaneously catch fire.
Feb 10, 2022
https://www.firerescue1.com/risk-management/articles/hyundai-kia-issue- recall-warn-cars-could-spontaneously-catch-fire-YCJShWTMerapCaAH/
BMW recalls 1 million vehicles for fire risk
NNovember 3, 2017 https://abcnews.go.com/US/bmw-recalls-million-vehicles-fire-risk/story? id=50922136
43,000 Toyota, Lexus Vehicles Recalled for Fire Risk
July 13, 2023 https://www.cars.com/articles/43000-toyota-lexus-vehicles-recalled-for- fire-risk-468992/
‘Park Outside': GM Recalls 40,000 Pickups to Fix Fire Risk
April 22, 2023 https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/national-international/park-outside-gm- recalls-40000-pickups-to-fix-fire-risk/3020092/
Hyundai and Kia to owners of almost 485,000
recalled vehicles: Park them outside due to
fire risk
FEBRUARY 8, 2022
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hyundai-kia-recall-vehicles-fire-risk/
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:19:37 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-16, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
ICE vehicle fires are easily extinguished.
EV's?
Not so much.
For every EV fire there are 37 ICE fires.
On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 12:07:05 -0800, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:8a9tnid2sfg7mf5cs7kd0pon9r8bvqp4iv@4ax.com,<snip>
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
For every EV fire there are 37 ICE fires. Do you park in an
attached garage? You got a 37 times better chance of seeing it
burn to the ground if you have an ICE car.
I was mistaken. That was from a report on car fires in Sweden. In
the US, the chances of your ICE catching fire is SIXTY times that of
a BEV.
"There are 1.4 billion internal combustion engine vehicles worldwide
today...."
And how many fires? The article doesn't mention fires.
https://www.producer.com/crops/improving-the-internal-combustion-engine/
"Some 18 million battery electric vehicles (BEVS) were in use
globally in 2022...."
And how many fires? The article doesn't mention fires.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/270603/worldwide-number-of-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles-since-2009/
1,400,000,000/18,000,000 = 77.77777777+
All that does is give you a percentage of total cars that are BEV and
you did the math backwards.
18,000,000 / 1,400,000,000 = 0.0128571428571429 which means that 1.3%
or one seventy eighth of cars in the world are BEVs.
Looks like BEVs are twice as likely to burn your garage down than ICE
vehicles.
Looks like you're lying yet again. These links are about sales
figures. There is nothing about car fires in either article.
Hybrid vehicles had 3474.5 fires per 100,000 sales
Gas vehicles had 1529.9 fires per 100k sales.
BEVs had only 25.1 fires per 100k sales. https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/12/gas-vs-electric-accident-and-fire-safety.html
These numbers were calculated from NHTSA reports.
You're spreading oil company propaganda ...
...and not even making up convincing numbers.
In news:8a9tnid2sfg7mf5cs7kd0pon9r8bvqp4iv@4ax.com,
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:19:37 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-16, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
ICE vehicle fires are easily extinguished.
EV's?
Not so much.
For every EV fire there are 37 ICE fires. Do you park in an attached
garage? You got a 37 times better chance of seeing it burn to the
ground if you have an ICE car.
"There are 1.4 billion internal combustion engine vehicles worldwide today...."
https://www.producer.com/crops/improving-the-internal-combustion-engine/
"Some 18 million battery electric vehicles (BEVS) were in use globally in 2022...."
https://www.statista.com/statistics/270603/worldwide-number-of-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles-since-2009/
1,400,000,000/18,000,000 = 77.77777777+
Looks like BEVs are twice as likely to burn your garage down than ICE vehicles.
In news:8a9tnid2sfg7mf5cs7kd0pon9r8bvqp4iv@4ax.com,
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:19:37 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-16, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
ICE vehicle fires are easily extinguished.
EV's?
Not so much.
For every EV fire there are 37 ICE fires. Do you park in an attached
garage? You got a 37 times better chance of seeing it burn to the
ground if you have an ICE car.
"There are 1.4 billion internal combustion engine vehicles worldwide today...."
https://www.producer.com/crops/improving-the-internal-combustion-engine/
"Some 18 million battery electric vehicles (BEVS) were in use globally in 2022...."
https://www.statista.com/statistics/270603/worldwide-number-of-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles-since-2009/
1,400,000,000/18,000,000 = 77.77777777+
Because I'm a fucking moron, Scout. My superior Max
showed that EVs are twice as likely to burn as ICE vehicles.
He ALWAYS bests me in these conversations.
On 12/18/2023 3:44 AM, scooter lied:
On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth waters at the
thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried — and
*failed* — to bullshit:
In news:8a9tnid2sfg7mf5cs7kd0pon9r8bvqp4iv@4ax.com,
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 20:19:37 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-16, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0DC6D7D14274882000099222@135.181.20.170:
This is insane.
Why would anyone a buy a gas
powered car when so many burst
into flame?
ICE vehicle fires are easily extinguished.
EV's?
Not so much.
For every EV fire there are 37 ICE fires. Do you park in an attached
garage? You got a 37 times better chance of seeing it burn to the
ground if you have an ICE car.
"There are 1.4 billion internal combustion engine vehicles worldwide
today...."
https://www.producer.com/crops/improving-the-internal-combustion-engine/ >>>
"Some 18 million battery electric vehicles (BEVS) were in use globally
in
2022...."
https://www.statista.com/statistics/270603/worldwide-number-of-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles-since-2009/
1,400,000,000/18,000,000 = 77.77777777+
Looks like BEVs are twice as likely to burn your garage down than ICE
vehicles.
I would put it higher than that because
Because you're a fucking moron, scooter. oozing scarlet red maxipad did
*not* show that EVs are twice as likely to burn as ICE vehicles.
He didn't show *anything* about the relative rate of vehicle fires,
scooter.
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