Not a good sign.
What happened to superior German engineering?
"This Volkswagen ID.3 Lost 10% Of Its Battery Capacity After 30,000
Miles"
"Battery degradation doesnt seem to be this German EVs forte."
<https://insideevs.com/news/700247/vw-id3-battery-degradation-30k-miles-
video/>
"One of the talking points of owning an electric car is how much capacity
the battery will retain after several years and thousands of miles of driving. Just like a smartphone, an EVs battery will degrade over time which means it will offer fewer driving miles on a full charge.
Some car manufacturers and their associated suppliers have mastered the chemistry that goes into the EVs they make, while others fall short of expectations.
In the video embedded above, Bjorn Nyland, a YouTuber whos known for his deep dive videos on EVsas well as his unconventional banana box
testtakes a two-year-old Volkswagen ID.3 for a spin to see how much
battery it still has.
This particular German electric hatchback is powered by a 62-kilowatt-
hour battery and has driven just 30,000 miles or 48,000 kilometers. So
you would expect to see minimal degradation, but the reality doesnt live
up to the expectations.
Its worth noting that the 62 kWh figure refers to the gross capacity,
while the usable capacity is around 58 kWh. With this said, after driving
for about 158 miles (254 km) in freezing temperatures in Norway, Bjorn stopped at a Tesla Supercharger to top up the battery and did the math."
"The car had an energy consumption of 19.6 kWh/100 km, which translates
to 31.5 kWh/100 miles. Thats worse than the Tesla Model Y Long Range (28 kWh/100 mi, according to the EPA) but pretty much on par with the Hyundai Ioniq 5 Standard Range RWD (30 kWh/100 mi).
As for the degradation rate, its a mixed bag. As per the YouTubers calculations, this particular ID.3 lost 6.3% of its battery reaching a
total usable capacity of 52.1 kWh, but theres an asterisk here. He
compared the amount of energy that could be stored in the battery pack to
the figure he observed when driving a brand-new ID.3 a few years ago,
which is 55.6 kWh. That said, we'd take these numbers with a grain of
salt.
If we compare it to the usable capacity touted by Volkswagen58 kWhthe degradation is even worse: 10.1%.
The same Bjorn Nyland tested other EVs using this method and found that a Tesla Model 3 Performances battery experienced a 5.3% degradation after 38,000 miles (62,000 km), while a 2019 BMW i3 with 94,000 miles (152,000
km) on the odometer had its battery pack degrade by just 1.6%. A two- year-old Mercedes-Benz EQC with 145,000 miles saw a degradation of 8.4%.
As with the famous quote from HBOs Chernobyl mini-series, this ID.3s battery degradation is not great, not terrible. But what do you think?
Let us know in the comments below."
On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:30:55 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
I'm not surprised.
Volkswagon cars suck.
They are unreliable, difficult and expensive to repair.
Audi is even worse.
Porsche are well made cars but extremely expensive to repair.
When's the last time you had to repair a Corvette?
Swill
On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 16:54:06 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
Corvette is considered to be a super car. Yes they are expensive to repair, but most years have
good reliability records.
*laughs and points*
They're JUNK! Germany led the world in vehicle engineering, build quality and reliability
for decades until they were eclipsed by the Japanese in the eighties. Karl Benz is
credited with building the first gasoline IC car.
US cars, although at one time cutting edge stylish and innovative, have never been known
for stellar build quality and long term reliability. It took competition from Japan to
bring them up to the level they're at now.
I'd be real nervous about the C8 though with it's mid engine design. Access is going to be a
nightmare.
Who cares? It's a supercar designed and built to compete globally with Audi's R8,
Porsche, Ferrarri and Lamborghini. What's really ripped the Europeans a new one is that
the 'Vette can now challenge all these in performance for half the price.
If you can't afford a $500 oil change, what are you doing buying an exotic in the first
place? An oil change on a Rolls can cost you as much as $2000.
Swill
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