Get ready for it because here it comes.
"Ramaswamy Sheds Light on the Climate Cult’s Plot to Steal Land from Americans"
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/ramaswamy-sheds-light-climate
- cults-plot-steal-land/>
"One of the major founding ideals behind the creation of the United
States is being threatened right now in Iowa, according to Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.
John Locke, the Enlightenment thinker whose writings were mined in the production of the Declaration of Independence, believed that the
fundamental natural rights of man were life, liberty, and property,
according to Teach Democracy.
The last is now in danger as Iowa farmers could be forced to sell
their property so that carbon-capture pipelines can crisscross the
Midwest, Ramaswamy said in a video posted to X.
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in news:XnsB0D6CFF89DF9C882000099222@135.181.20.170:
Get ready for it because here it comes.
"Ramaswamy Sheds Light on the Climate CultÂ’s Plot to Steal Land from
Americans"
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/ramaswamy-sheds-light-climate
- cults-plot-steal-land/>
"One of the major founding ideals behind the creation of the United
States is being threatened right now in Iowa, according to Republican
presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.and others
John Locke, the Enlightenment thinker whose writings were mined in the
production of the Declaration of Independence, believed that the
fundamental natural rights of man were life, liberty, and property,
according to Teach Democracy.
The last is now in danger as Iowa farmers could be forced to sell
their property so that carbon-capture pipelines can crisscross the
Midwest, Ramaswamy said in a video posted to X.
Where was this "stealing land!" concern
when it was the Keystone Pipeline that was
grabbing farmers land without consent?
Faced With Land Seizures, Defiant
Nebraskans Vow to Halt Keystone XL
Jan 20 2015
As Canadian energy company
TransCanada filed eminent domain
claims against Nebraska landowners
on Tuesday for the construction of
the controversial Keystone XL tar
sands pipeline, families whose
properties are on the verge of
forced seizure say they will do
whatever is necessary to shut down
the project.
Landowners from Nebraska's York
and Holt counties last week filed
suit against TransCanada to stall
or even stop construction of the
Keystone XL pipeline through their
state. On Tuesday, they continued
to call on President Barack Obama
to veto the project altogether. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/01/20/faced-land-seizures-defiant- nebraskans-vow-halt-keystone-xl
On 2023-12-11, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0D6CFF89DF9C882000099222@135.181.20.170:
Get ready for it because here it comes.
"Ramaswamy Sheds Light on the Climate CultÂ’s Plot to Steal Land
from Americans"
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/ramaswamy-sheds-light-clima
te - cults-plot-steal-land/>
"One of the major founding ideals behind the creation of the United
States is being threatened right now in Iowa, according to
Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.and others
John Locke, the Enlightenment thinker whose writings were mined in
the production of the Declaration of Independence, believed that the
fundamental natural rights of man were life, liberty, and property,
according to Teach Democracy.
The last is now in danger as Iowa farmers could be forced to sell
their property so that carbon-capture pipelines can crisscross the
Midwest, Ramaswamy said in a video posted to X.
Where was this "stealing land!" concern
when it was the Keystone Pipeline that was
grabbing farmers land without consent?
Faced With Land Seizures, Defiant
Nebraskans Vow to Halt Keystone XL
Jan 20 2015
As Canadian energy company
TransCanada filed eminent domain
claims against Nebraska landowners
on Tuesday for the construction of
the controversial Keystone XL tar
sands pipeline, families whose
properties are on the verge of
forced seizure say they will do
whatever is necessary to shut down
the project.
Landowners from Nebraska's York
and Holt counties last week filed
suit against TransCanada to stall
or even stop construction of the
Keystone XL pipeline through their
state. On Tuesday, they continued
to call on President Barack Obama
to veto the project altogether.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/01/20/faced-land-seizures-defia
nt- nebraskans-vow-halt-keystone-xl
Valid points.
IMHO the eminent domain policy should be unconstitutional. The only
exception would be in times of war. And major war at that where the US
is being threatened for one reason or another. At that point it could
be a matter of life and death. Sadly, this has been going on in one
form or another since the creation of the USA. Railroad barons, land
barons and the government as well.
On 2023-12-11, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0D6CFF89DF9C882000099222@135.181.20.170:
Get ready for it because here it comes.
"Ramaswamy Sheds Light on the Climate CultÂ’s Plot to Steal Land
from Americans"
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/ramaswamy-sheds-light-clima
te - cults-plot-steal-land/>
"One of the major founding ideals behind the creation of the United
States is being threatened right now in Iowa, according to
Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.and others
John Locke, the Enlightenment thinker whose writings were mined in
the production of the Declaration of Independence, believed that the
fundamental natural rights of man were life, liberty, and property,
according to Teach Democracy.
The last is now in danger as Iowa farmers could be forced to sell
their property so that carbon-capture pipelines can crisscross the
Midwest, Ramaswamy said in a video posted to X.
Where was this "stealing land!" concern
when it was the Keystone Pipeline that was
grabbing farmers land without consent?
Faced With Land Seizures, Defiant
Nebraskans Vow to Halt Keystone XL
Jan 20 2015
As Canadian energy company
TransCanada filed eminent domain
claims against Nebraska landowners
on Tuesday for the construction of
the controversial Keystone XL tar
sands pipeline, families whose
properties are on the verge of
forced seizure say they will do
whatever is necessary to shut down
the project.
Landowners from Nebraska's York
and Holt counties last week filed
suit against TransCanada to stall
or even stop construction of the
Keystone XL pipeline through their
state. On Tuesday, they continued
to call on President Barack Obama
to veto the project altogether.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/01/20/faced-land-seizures-defia
nt- nebraskans-vow-halt-keystone-xl
Valid points.
IMHO the eminent domain policy should be unconstitutional. The only
exception would be in times of war. And major war at that where the US
is being threatened for one reason or another. At that point it could
be a matter of life and death. Sadly, this has been going on in one
form or another since the creation of the USA. Railroad barons, land
barons and the government as well.
On 11 Dec 2023, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some news:ul714q$35oam$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-11, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0D6CFF89DF9C882000099222@135.181.20.170:
Get ready for it because here it comes.
"Ramaswamy Sheds Light on the Climate CultÂ’s Plot to Steal Land
from Americans"
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/ramaswamy-sheds-light-clima
te - cults-plot-steal-land/>
"One of the major founding ideals behind the creation of the United
States is being threatened right now in Iowa, according to
Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.and others
John Locke, the Enlightenment thinker whose writings were mined in
the production of the Declaration of Independence, believed that the
fundamental natural rights of man were life, liberty, and property,
according to Teach Democracy.
The last is now in danger as Iowa farmers could be forced to sell
their property so that carbon-capture pipelines can crisscross the
Midwest, Ramaswamy said in a video posted to X.
Where was this "stealing land!" concern
when it was the Keystone Pipeline that was
grabbing farmers land without consent?
Faced With Land Seizures, Defiant
Nebraskans Vow to Halt Keystone XL
Jan 20 2015
As Canadian energy company
TransCanada filed eminent domain
claims against Nebraska landowners
on Tuesday for the construction of
the controversial Keystone XL tar
sands pipeline, families whose
properties are on the verge of
forced seizure say they will do
whatever is necessary to shut down
the project.
Landowners from Nebraska's York
and Holt counties last week filed
suit against TransCanada to stall
or even stop construction of the
Keystone XL pipeline through their
state. On Tuesday, they continued
to call on President Barack Obama
to veto the project altogether.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/01/20/faced-land-seizures-defia
nt- nebraskans-vow-halt-keystone-xl
Valid points.
IMHO the eminent domain policy should be unconstitutional. The only
exception would be in times of war. And major war at that where the US
is being threatened for one reason or another. At that point it could
be a matter of life and death. Sadly, this has been going on in one
form or another since the creation of the USA. Railroad barons, land
barons and the government as well.
The people of the republic have the power and means to end this sort of abuse. Do they have the guts?
On 2023-12-11, scotto <scotto@live.com> wrote:
On 11 Dec 2023, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some
news:ul714q$35oam$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-11, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0D6CFF89DF9C882000099222@135.181.20.170:
Get ready for it because here it comes.
"Ramaswamy Sheds Light on the Climate CultÂ’s Plot to Steal Land
from Americans"
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/ramaswamy-sheds-light-cli
ma te - cults-plot-steal-land/>
"One of the major founding ideals behind the creation of the
United States is being threatened right now in Iowa, according to
Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.and others
John Locke, the Enlightenment thinker whose writings were mined in
the production of the Declaration of Independence, believed that
the fundamental natural rights of man were life, liberty, and
property, according to Teach Democracy.
The last is now in danger as Iowa farmers could be forced to sell
their property so that carbon-capture pipelines can crisscross the
Midwest, Ramaswamy said in a video posted to X.
Where was this "stealing land!" concern
when it was the Keystone Pipeline that was
grabbing farmers land without consent?
Faced With Land Seizures, Defiant
Nebraskans Vow to Halt Keystone XL
Jan 20 2015
As Canadian energy company
TransCanada filed eminent domain
claims against Nebraska landowners
on Tuesday for the construction of
the controversial Keystone XL tar
sands pipeline, families whose
properties are on the verge of
forced seizure say they will do
whatever is necessary to shut down
the project.
Landowners from Nebraska's York
and Holt counties last week filed
suit against TransCanada to stall
or even stop construction of the
Keystone XL pipeline through their
state. On Tuesday, they continued
to call on President Barack Obama
to veto the project altogether.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/01/20/faced-land-seizures-def
ia nt- nebraskans-vow-halt-keystone-xl
Valid points.
IMHO the eminent domain policy should be unconstitutional. The only
exception would be in times of war. And major war at that where the
US is being threatened for one reason or another. At that point it
could be a matter of life and death. Sadly, this has been going on
in one form or another since the creation of the USA. Railroad
barons, land barons and the government as well.
The people of the republic have the power and means to end this sort
of abuse. Do they have the guts?
Except for those directly affected by those abuses most people haven't
got a clue as to what is going on.
They don't realize that it could be them next.
On 11 Dec 2023, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some news:ul7o3u$39kts$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-11, scotto <scotto@live.com> wrote:
On 11 Dec 2023, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some
news:ul714q$35oam$2@dont-email.me:
On 2023-12-11, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0D6CFF89DF9C882000099222@135.181.20.170:
Get ready for it because here it comes.
"Ramaswamy Sheds Light on the Climate CultÂ’s Plot to Steal Landand others
from Americans"
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/ramaswamy-sheds-light-cli >>>>>> ma te - cults-plot-steal-land/>
"One of the major founding ideals behind the creation of the
United States is being threatened right now in Iowa, according to
Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.and others
John Locke, the Enlightenment thinker whose writings were mined in >>>>>> the production of the Declaration of Independence, believed that
the fundamental natural rights of man were life, liberty, and
property, according to Teach Democracy.
The last is now in danger as Iowa farmers could be forced to sell
their property so that carbon-capture pipelines can crisscross the >>>>>> Midwest, Ramaswamy said in a video posted to X.
Where was this "stealing land!" concern
when it was the Keystone Pipeline that was
grabbing farmers land without consent?
Faced With Land Seizures, Defiant
Nebraskans Vow to Halt Keystone XL
Jan 20 2015
As Canadian energy company
TransCanada filed eminent domain
claims against Nebraska landowners
on Tuesday for the construction of
the controversial Keystone XL tar
sands pipeline, families whose
properties are on the verge of
forced seizure say they will do
whatever is necessary to shut down
the project.
Landowners from Nebraska's York
and Holt counties last week filed
suit against TransCanada to stall
or even stop construction of the
Keystone XL pipeline through their
state. On Tuesday, they continued
to call on President Barack Obama
to veto the project altogether.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/01/20/faced-land-seizures-def >>>>> ia nt- nebraskans-vow-halt-keystone-xl
Valid points.
IMHO the eminent domain policy should be unconstitutional. The only
exception would be in times of war. And major war at that where the
US is being threatened for one reason or another. At that point it
could be a matter of life and death. Sadly, this has been going on
in one form or another since the creation of the USA. Railroad
barons, land barons and the government as well.
The people of the republic have the power and means to end this sort
of abuse. Do they have the guts?
Except for those directly affected by those abuses most people haven't
got a clue as to what is going on.
They don't realize that it could be them next.
By then it's too late.
On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 13:00:10 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-11, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0D6CFF89DF9C882000099222@135.181.20.170:
Get ready for it because here it comes.
"Ramaswamy Sheds Light on the Climate Cult?s Plot to Steal Land from
Americans"
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/ramaswamy-sheds-light-climate >>>> - cults-plot-steal-land/>
"One of the major founding ideals behind the creation of the United
States is being threatened right now in Iowa, according to Republican
presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.and others
John Locke, the Enlightenment thinker whose writings were mined in the >>>> production of the Declaration of Independence, believed that the
fundamental natural rights of man were life, liberty, and property,
according to Teach Democracy.
The last is now in danger as Iowa farmers could be forced to sell
their property so that carbon-capture pipelines can crisscross the
Midwest, Ramaswamy said in a video posted to X.
Where was this "stealing land!" concern
when it was the Keystone Pipeline that was
grabbing farmers land without consent?
Faced With Land Seizures, Defiant
Nebraskans Vow to Halt Keystone XL
Jan 20 2015
As Canadian energy company
TransCanada filed eminent domain
claims against Nebraska landowners
on Tuesday for the construction of
the controversial Keystone XL tar
sands pipeline, families whose
properties are on the verge of
forced seizure say they will do
whatever is necessary to shut down
the project.
Landowners from Nebraska's York
and Holt counties last week filed
suit against TransCanada to stall
or even stop construction of the
Keystone XL pipeline through their
state. On Tuesday, they continued
to call on President Barack Obama
to veto the project altogether.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/01/20/faced-land-seizures-defiant- >>> nebraskans-vow-halt-keystone-xl
Valid points.
IMHO the eminent domain policy should be unconstitutional. The only exception would be in times of
war. And major war at that where the US is being threatened for one reason or another. At that
point it could be a matter of life and death. Sadly, this has been going on in one form or another
since the creation of the USA. Railroad barons, land barons and the government as well.
"In Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005), the Supreme Court allowed a taking
when the government used eminent domain to seize private property to facilitate a private
development. The Court considered the taking to be a public use because the community
would enjoy the furthering of economic development."
<https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/eminent_domain>
The most shocking thing to me was that Republicans supported this SCOTUS ruling while
Democrats argued that Eminent Domain can only be used for public projects such as roads,
schools or a dam, for example.
Eminent domain should be usable for any vital public project wherein the project *must* go
through and there is no other option. I wouldn't require a war to get it done.
Swill
On 2023-12-11, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 13:00:10 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-11, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:
Paul Ragna <tpragna@gmail.com> wrote in
news:XnsB0D6CFF89DF9C882000099222@135.181.20.170:
Get ready for it because here it comes.
"Ramaswamy Sheds Light on the Climate Cult?s Plot to Steal Land
from Americans"
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/ramaswamy-sheds-light-cli
mate - cults-plot-steal-land/>
"One of the major founding ideals behind the creation of the
United States is being threatened right now in Iowa, according to
Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.and others
John Locke, the Enlightenment thinker whose writings were mined in
the production of the Declaration of Independence, believed that
the fundamental natural rights of man were life, liberty, and
property, according to Teach Democracy.
The last is now in danger as Iowa farmers could be forced to sell
their property so that carbon-capture pipelines can crisscross the
Midwest, Ramaswamy said in a video posted to X.
Where was this "stealing land!" concern
when it was the Keystone Pipeline that was
grabbing farmers land without consent?
Faced With Land Seizures, Defiant
Nebraskans Vow to Halt Keystone XL
Jan 20 2015
As Canadian energy company
TransCanada filed eminent domain
claims against Nebraska landowners
on Tuesday for the construction of
the controversial Keystone XL tar
sands pipeline, families whose
properties are on the verge of
forced seizure say they will do
whatever is necessary to shut down
the project.
Landowners from Nebraska's York
and Holt counties last week filed
suit against TransCanada to stall
or even stop construction of the
Keystone XL pipeline through their
state. On Tuesday, they continued
to call on President Barack Obama
to veto the project altogether.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/01/20/faced-land-seizures-def
iant- nebraskans-vow-halt-keystone-xl
Valid points.
IMHO the eminent domain policy should be unconstitutional. The only >>>exception would be in times of war. And major war at that where the
US is being threatened for one reason or another. At that point it
could be a matter of life and death. Sadly, this has been going on in
one form or another since the creation of the USA. Railroad barons,
land barons and the government as well.
"In Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005), the Supreme
Court allowed a taking when the government used eminent domain to
seize private property to facilitate a private development. The Court
considered the taking to be a public use because the community would
enjoy the furthering of economic development." >><https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/eminent_domain>
The most shocking thing to me was that Republicans supported this
SCOTUS ruling while Democrats argued that Eminent Domain can only be
used for public projects such as roads, schools or a dam, for
example.
Eminent domain should be usable for any vital public project wherein
the project *must* go through and there is no other option. I
wouldn't require a war to get it done.
Swill
I suppose you have a point. The problem with public projects is that
there is often dark money involved and a lot of game playing with no accounting of what and where funds are spent.
That being said, I have some indirect experience with eminent domain.
I was very young at the time, but when the VZ bridge and BQE/Gowanus
approach was built in the 60's, many homes were destroyed to make room
for it.
Get ready for it because here it comes.
"Ramaswamy Sheds Light on the Climate Cult’s Plot to Steal Land from Americans"
<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/ramaswamy-sheds-light-climate- cults-plot-steal-land/>
"One of the major founding ideals behind the creation of the United
States is being threatened right now in Iowa, according to Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.
John Locke, the Enlightenment thinker whose writings were mined in the production of the Declaration of Independence, believed that the
fundamental natural rights of man were life, liberty, and property,
according to Teach Democracy.
The last is now in danger as Iowa farmers could be forced to sell their property so that carbon-capture pipelines can crisscross the Midwest, Ramaswamy said in a video posted to X.
“The Great Reset now comes to your backyard. It’s dead wrong & unconstitutional to use *eminent domain* to seize farmland to advance the global climate cult’s carbon capture pipelines in the American midwest.
Shame on the GOP Establishment for its silence on this critical issue in Iowa,” he wrote in the post."
"The Climate Cult has nothing to do with the climate. That is one of the
many reasons why it is a hoax,” he said, adding that the goal is to help China at America’s expense.
Noting the use of eminent domain to take land for the project from those
who do not wish to sell, he said, “think of that unconstitutional
violation, that World Economic Forum vision that you have no property.
Well, now they’re bringing that to the back yards of even Iowa farmers in
the United States.
Ramaswamy opposes eminent domain for private companies and has criticized other GOP presidential candidates for not taking a stand on the issue, according to the Iowa Capital Dispatch.
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“Why am I the only candidate who’s able to even say these things to you?” Ramaswamy said. “It’s because every politician dances to the tune of
their biggest donor, like a fact of nature.”
The pipelines take carbon dioxide, such as that produced at ethanol
plants, and trap it underground.
Ramaswamy said there’s a domino effect if eminent domain is used to fight climate change."
"Ethanol plants are not the only things that emit carbon dioxide into the air. You mark my words, if that meets the test, that justifies the Biden administration or anybody else coming after him to be able to come into
your home and seize your gas stove and leave a $50 check in your
mailbox,” Ramaswamy said recently, according to NBC News.
Kathy Stockdale, a corn and soybean farmer whose land has been identified
for a possible pipeline, said she worries about what might go wrong.
“If there was a leak on our farm, we will be dead. We are in the kill
zone,” she said."
"It has happened before. In February 2020, heavy rain resulted in a
pipeline rupture near Satartia, Mississippi. A CO2 plume made up of
31,405 barrels of highly compressed liquid carbon dioxide settled over
the town, sending 45 people to the hospital and forcing 200 others to evacuate, according to Inside Climate News.
Carbon capture projects, which include pipelines such as the one being
fought in Iowa, have already been funded with $1.8 billion in U.S.
taxpayers’ dollars.
More than $12 billion in the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and the
Inflation Reduction Act is designed to build more projects."
"The projects do not always deliver what they promise, according to a
2022 report from the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial
Analysis.
The report said 10 of 13 flagship carbon capture projects between 1986
and 2019 either underperformed or were abject failures."
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