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CNN poll: Large majority of US adults and half of Republicans agree
with Biden's goal to slash climate pollution
Ella Nilsen Ariel Edwards-Levy
By Ella Nilsen and Ariel Edwards-Levy, CNN
4 minute read
Published 6:00 AM EST, Fri December 8, 2023

CNN - Nearly two-thirds of US adults say they are worried about the
threat of climate change in their communities, according to a new CNN
poll conducted by SSRS. More than half are worried about the impact of
extreme weather, as the climate crisis touches every region in the form
of extreme heat, devastating storms and drought.

Even more want the federal government to do something about it. A broad majority of US adults - 73% - say the federal government should develop
its climate policies with the goal of cutting the country's
planet-warming pollution in half by the end of the decade.

That has been the goal of President Joe Biden, who has made tackling
the climate crisis a greater priority than any other president,
including through billions of dollars in tax subsidies to create more
renewable energy infrastructure and help consumers buy discounted
electric vehicles, solar panels and energy-efficient appliances. The
Biden administration is also crafting and implementing several federal regulations designed to cut pollution from the oil and gas industry,
power plants, and gas-powered vehicles.

The polling comes as nations debate the future of fossil fuels at the
COP28 climate summit in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. Vice
President Kamala Harris announced at the summit last week that the US
would commit another $3 billion to the global climate action fund, and
the Biden administration announced new rules to slash emissions of
methane - a powerful planet-warming gas - by 80% from the US oil and
gas industry.

Cutting US climate pollution is a bipartisan aspiration, the CNN poll
finds. Nearly all Democrats say the US should slash its greenhouse gas emissions by half by 2030, and 76% of independents and half of
Republicans agree.

American voters could be presented with a stark choice on how their
country addresses climate change in the 2024 election; a potential
rematch between Biden - who signed the country's biggest climate
investment into law last year - and former President Donald Trump, a
climate change denier who has vowed to repeal several of Biden's
signature clean-energy policies.

When it comes to climate change, Americans say by a 13-point margin
that their views align with Democrats more than Republicans. Much like abortion, climate change is one of the strongest issues for Democrats,
CNN's poll finds.

As climate chaos accelerates, which countries are polluting the most?

Americans give Biden a 43% approval rating for his handling of
environmental policy, which is several points above his overall
approval rating and well above his numbers for handling the economy.
But few Americans, only 2%, see climate change as the most important
issue facing the country, giving higher priority to the economy and
cost of living.

But climate change and clean energy are increasingly intertwined with
the economy. Climate change-fueled disasters don't just impact
commerce, they also strike at the heart of the American dream:
homeownership.

In some states prone to wildfires and extreme weather, the cost of home
and property insurance is skyrocketing. In some cases, insurance
companies are dropping coverage all together because the risk is too
high. That, in turn, has damaging implications for the housing market
and cost of homes, experts have told CNN.

Most US adults say humanity bears a great deal of responsibility to try
to reduce climate change but believe the US and Chinese governments and
the energy industry are all doing too little to fix the problem.

Americans are also finding less fault with themselves: A somewhat lower
40% of Americans say that people like them hold a great deal of
responsibility to reduce climate change. Meanwhile, 58% say that they, personally, are doing the right amount to reduce their impact on the
climate crisis, with 37% saying that they are doing too little.

As past polls have found, there is a profound partisan divide over how Americans feel about climate change, and what to do about it, that
outweighs other factors such as age and gender. The poll finds
Democrats are far more likely than Republicans to say that humanity
bears a great deal of responsibility to reduce climate change (77% vs.
42%). And Democrats are 36 percentage points likelier than Republicans
to say they're very worried about the risk of climate change in the
communities where they live.

But the fact that human activity is fueling the planet's warming isn't
lost on Republicans; the poll finds about three-quarters of them think
humanity has at least some responsibility to fight climate change.

The poll finds that more than 4 in 10 Americans say they've experienced
extreme weather over the past year, with most in that group calling
climate change a contributing factor. In the past few years, Americans
have faced climate-fueled extreme heat, drought and flash flooding that
has devastated communities.

The CNN poll was conducted by SSRS from November 1-30 among a random
national sample of 1,795 adults initially reached by mail. Surveys were
either conducted online or by telephone with a live interviewer.
Results for the full sample have a margin of sampling error of plus or
minus 3.2 percentage points; it is larger for subgroups.


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On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 23:28:15 -0600, super70s says...

CNN poll:

Well... there's yer problem. They cherry-pick their respondents.

Real sciency, toddler. Leading questions are asked. Were any of the questions; is man responsible for warming?

Warming started BEFORE man's heavy industry started, fruitcake.

https://i.imgur.com/tdfLhFZ.mp4

Large majority of US adults and half of Republicans

The women only. Sounds about right.

CNN: "What do you identify as?"

Male.

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CNN: "What do you identify as?"

Female.

Do you agree or disagree that the climate is changing?

Yes. (is ALWAYS changes)

<click>

CNN: "What do you identify as?"

Female.

Do you agree or disagree that the climate is changing and that the total of 0.04% of ALL gases in the atmosphere being CO², with man's contribution of ALL CO² coming in at 3%, or 0.012% of the atmosphere, is the reason we have climate change?

"I don't understand the question."

Yes or no?

Yes, I guess.

We'll count that.

agree with Biden's goal to slash climate pollution

CO² is not pollution. REAL pollution causes cooling.

Aerosols: Small Particles with Big Climate Effects https://climate.nasa.gov/explore/ask-nasa-climate/3271/aerosols-small- particles-with-big-climate-effects/
Jun 12, 2023 - In general, light-colored particles in the atmosphere will reflect incoming sunlight and cause cooling. Dark-colored particles absorb sunlight and make the atmosphere warmer. Because different types of particles have different effects, aerosols are a hot topic in climate research. Get NASA's Climate Change News

Possible cooling effect of fine particulate matter in the atmosphere ... https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-021-00278-5
Particulate matter emitted through human activities not only pollutes the air, but also cools the Earth by scattering shortwave solar radiation. However, coarser dust particles have been... we don't emit dust.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sulfur+dioxide+cool+the+atmosphere&ia=web

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=particulates+in+the+air+cool+the+atmosphere&ia=web

REAL pollution cools. CO² is not a pollutant and doesn't warm anyways... that would be the sun's job. There isn't enough CO² to "CAUSE" warming.

REAL scientists:

CO2 molecule retains energy for 0.0016 seconds. Not enough to even warm the next molecule.

On the Hunga Tonga-Hunga:
"An unprecedented amount of water, enough to fill nearly 60,000 Olympic-size swimming pools of water, shot up in the atmosphere and could warm our atmosphere in the future. It's the water vapor. Not the CO2."

"Carbon dioxide has been draining away over the ages & a recent recovery to 410ppm may not be enough. Long-term decline could hit 150ppm once the warm Holocene ends. It fell to 180ppm only 10K yrs ago. A collapse in CO2 would end life. This is the real peril - not global warming."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fi1BPW4WYAA6_kX?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fi1BPWwXEAEKFIX?format=jpg&name=large

"In the daytime warmth comes from the sun at night energy escapes to space. Water vapor is what keeps us warm at night. There is not enough CO2 to do what the alarmist say it will do."

"Here is a graph to illustrate CO2."

(LOL... I've been making "graphs" like this for years, to show you how LITTLE CO² has an effect on "warming". Warming comes first. Warming releases CO², not the other way around.

https://i.imgur.com/dm5aM7u.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/gGZgyi4.mp4
https://i.imgur.com/chQsqdJ.mp4

"Even the most math-challenged have to see there is simply not enough CO2 to warm anything. Plus, when it's radiative bands are saturated, which they are now, more CO can do nothing. CO2 could triple with no effect.

CNN - Nearly two-thirds of US adults say they are worried about the
threat of climate change in their communities

WHAT "climate change"? WHERE has the climate "changed"?

Is Canada snow-free?

Is the Southeast covered in snow?

I've been worried about WEATHER ever since I lived in Oklahoma in the 60s, where it seemed we had tornadoes every day during the Spring and Fall.

poll conducted by SSRS. More than half are worried about the impact of extreme weather

CO² does not cause extreme weather.

IPCC and Skeptics Agree: Climate Change Is Not Causing Extreme Weather

A new Global Warming Policy Foundation report from retired physicist Ralph Alexander, Ph.D. (Oxford University) supports the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's conclusion THERE IS LIMITED SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE LINKING CLIMATE CHANGE TO INCREASES IN EXTREME WEATHER.

Alexander's paper begins by remarking, "The purported link between extreme weather and global warming has captured the public imagination and attention of the mainstream media far more than any of the other claims made by the narrative of human-caused climate change."

This is odd because data and analyses from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the U.N. body that climate alarmists in academic, political, and media circles continually cite as the authoritative source of information on climate change, confirm that "IF THERE IS ANY TREND AT ALL IN EXTREME WEATHER, IT'S DOWNWARD RATHER THAN UPWARD. Our most extreme weather, be it heat wave, drought, flood, hurricane or tornado, OCCURRED MANY YEARS AGO, long before the carbon dioxide level in the atmosphere began to climb at its present rate," writes Alexander.

as the climate crisis

Name the "climate crisis". WHERE is the crisis? Are we having droughts and famine, like we did when there was nearly HALF the CO²?

https://i.imgur.com/RdnBdPW.png

touches every region in the form of extreme heat, devastating storms and drought.

Yawn. This is new?

Even more want the federal government to do something about it.

LOL... again (or from down below)... those who bother to respond to this poll are the ones who ARE chicken shit Chicken Littles.

If YOU, being one of those chicken shits, is called... YOU will take the poll.

If *I*, NOT being one of those chicken shits, is called... I WON'T take it.

A broad

majority of US adults - 73% - say the federal government should develop

Yeah... lazy BLM/Drag Queen/Gay/Socialist/Antifa Fascist/Marxist/Communist /Racist/Insurrectionist/Liberal Democrats who don't want to do anything for themselves, let alone stop driving their cars.

its climate policies with the goal of cutting the country's
planet-warming pollution

Please name the "planet-warming" pollution.

That has been the goal of President Joe Biden

Yeah, to pad his and his crony's green energy portfolios and charge the citizens for it, by raising taxes.

Cutting US climate pollution

So, now it's "climate pollution" and not "warming pollution"?

Nearly all Democrats say the US should slash its greenhouse gas
emissions by half by 2030, and 76% of independents and half of
Republicans agree.

We can cut the REAL greenhouse gas "pollution"? How do we cut water vapour?

Stop boiling water for tea and coffee?

American voters could be presented with a stark choice on how their
country addresses climate change in the 2024 election; a potential
rematch between Biden - who signed the country's biggest climate
investment into law last year - and former President Donald Trump, a
climate change denier who has vowed to repeal several of Biden's
signature clean-energy policies.

President Obama stole $22 billion dollars a year to cut back on CO², and what happened?

https://i.imgur.com/GtqmhHH.png

When it comes to climate change, Americans say by a 13-point margin

And that PROVES manmade climate change? Please... show your work.

Americans give Biden a 43% approval rating

So, 60% says he's fucking up. Got it.

But few Americans, only 2%, see climate change as the most important
issue facing the country, giving higher priority to the economy and
cost of living.

THAT'S the issue... not climate change, and CERTAINLY not MANMADE climate change.

Please explain... how are WE the "tipping point" in this climate CHAOS!?

97% of ALL other CO² emitters put out more than us. CO² does NOT drive climate anyways, so the point is moot.

It's just an excuse to redistribute the wealth.

But climate change

Why do they NEVER say "manmade" climate change? The climate changes, moron... we can't do ANYTHING about it.

Bullshit excuses deleted.

The CNN poll was conducted by SSRS from November 1-30 among a random
national sample of 1,795 adults initially reached by mail.

HOW do you "reach" someone by mail? How many do you think threw this poll in the garbage?

LOL... I bet there were so few respondents, that the percentages shot up quickly. That's so disingenuous. You could have as few as 10 people reply and those who DO reply, are the ones who ARE the chicken shits, who have been brainwashed into thinking that what's going on is an existential issue.

Clue to the clueless toddlers out there... it's not. Nuclear war is existential. Weather is a mere annoyance. We've had extreme weather since we've been on Earth, and we're now up to 8 BILLION people.

HOW is that possible when there's been EXTREME weather since there's BEEN weather?

Surveys were
either conducted online or by telephone with a live interviewer.
Results for the full sample have a margin of sampling error of plus or
minus 3.2 percentage points; it is larger for subgroups.

"Subgroups"?

What the fuck are "subgroups", and if the error margin is larger, that means there were FEW who bothered to partake.

THIS is what it's alllll about.

The UN Makes it Official: Global Warming Hysteria Is All About Redistributing Wealth

UN IPCC Official Admits 'We Redistribute World's Wealth By Climate Policy'

Global Study Reveals Wealth Redistribution From Blue-Carbon Ecosystems

Failed Climate Policies Are About Wealth Redistribution

"We Redistribute De Facto The World's Wealth By Climate Policy."

How Global Warming Has Made The Rich Richer https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20190502-how-global-warming-has-made-the- rich-richer

The U.N.'s Global Warming War On Capitalism: An Important History Lesson https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/01/22/the-u-n-s-global-warming-war- on-capitalism-an-important-history-lesson-2/?sh=4f89a2d429be

The Doha Wealth Redistribution Process Moves On https://townhall.com/columnists/davidrothbard/2012/12/14/the-doha-wealth- redistribution-process-moves-on-n1465410

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"There is no doubt, that we need to have a complete transformation... the transformation of the economy, and that includes, of course, the private sector."

A carbon tax will change NOTHING, other than the wealth of politicians and countries who beg us for money. THAT was the purpose of the Paris Accord... the ONLY purpose.

Funny... when the government no longer pays for bogus money-grabbing data, the truth comes out.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running." https://youtu.be/J9Oi7x2OBdI?t=74

"And we're like... the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change..."

AOC's Top Aide Admits Green New Deal About The Economy, Not Climate https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aocs-top-aide-admits-green-new-deal- about-the-economy-not-the-climate

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's chief of staff recently admitted that the Green New Deal was not conceived as an effort to deal with climate change, but instead a "how-do-you-change-the-entire economy thing" a remark likely to fuel Republican claims that the deal is nothing more than a thinly veiled socialist takeover of the U.S. economy. "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all," Saikat Chakrabarti said in May, according to The Washington Post.

*****

UN Official Admits That Climate Change Used As A Ruse To Control The World's Economy http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/diabolical-lie-called-climate-change-used- un-promote-economic-agenda/

*****

"Unequal Distribution of Wealth and Power" Causes Climate Change http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/un-climate-summit-causes-of- climate-change-unequal-distribution-of-wealth-and-power/

*****

U.N. Official Reveals Real Reason Behind Warming Scare http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to- destroy-capitalism/

*****

Another Climate Alarmist Admits Real Motive Behind Warming Scare http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/another-climate-alarmist- admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/

*****

United Nations Official Admits the Purpose of the Global Warming Hoax is to Destroy Capitalism http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/donald-r-may/2015-02- 27/united-nations-official-admits-purpose-global-warming#.V-nGUOM1HmE

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Global Warming/Climate Change Explains EVERYTHING!

Global Warming/Climate Change makes for shorter winters, except for when it makes for longer winters.

Global Warming/Climate Change means less snow, except for when Global Warming/Climate Change means more snow.

And Global Warming/Climate Change causes droughts in California and floods in Texas and Oklahoma and generally makes wet places wetter and dry places dryer, except when it makes wet places drier and dry places wetter, except when none of that changes at all, and then Global Warming/Climate Change explains that too!

And Global Warming/Climate Change causes more hurricanes at the same time as it causes less hurricanes.

Global Warming/Climate Change causes more rain but less water... and less rain but more water?

And Global Warming/Climate Change causes more water vapour in the atmosphere, at the same time it causes less rain... and less water vapour in the atmosphere, when it causes MORE rain?

Global Warming/Climate Change decreases the spread of malaria at the same time as it increases the spread of malaria.

Global Warming/Climate Change makes San Francisco foggier... Global Warming/Climate Change makes San Francisco less foggy.

Global Warming/Climate Change causes duller autumn leaves... Global Warming/Climate Change causes shinier autumn leaves.

Global Warming/Climate Change makes for less salty seas... Global Warming/Climate Change makes for saltier seas.

Global Warming/Climate Change causes the polar ice caps to melt... Global Warming/Climate Change also causes the polar ice caps to freeze.

Global Warming/Climate Change makes the Earth hotter, unless the Earth isn't getting hotter... in which case, Global Warming/Climate Change can explain that too.

What's the problem here? This sounds like the perfect scientific theory. It can explain literally everything including self contradictory things.

This means it's absolutely perfect, doesn't it?

Well no, not according to Karl Popper and the philosophers of science and within the philosophy of science there's something called the demarcation problem... how do you differentiate science from pseudo-science?

The left won't LET you, and brands you a denierrrrrrr(whining).

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