• Judge rules former President Donald Trump is eligible for Colorado's pr

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    A Denver District Court judge has issued a ruling that former President
    Donald Trump can appear on the Colorado primary ballot. The decision came
    down just before 5 p.m. Friday. At issue was whether he was barred from
    the ballot by a provision of the U.S. Constitution that forbids those who "engaged in insurrection" from holding office.

    Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold released this statement shortly
    after the ruling, "The Court determined that Donald Trump is eligible to
    be placed on the Colorado ballot in the March Presidential Primary. This decision may be appealed. As Secretary of State, I will always ensure that every voter can make their voice heard in free and fair elections."

    Advocates this year have been trying to remove Trump from the ballot in Colorado and other states under Section Three of the 14th Amendment, which
    bars from office those who swore an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution
    and then "engaged in insurrection" against it. The measure has only been
    used a handful of times since the period after the Civil War.

    These are the assholes.

    Petitioners: NORMA ANDERSON, MICHELLE PRIOLA,CLAUDINE CMARADA, KRISTA
    KAFER, KATHI WRIGHT, and CHRISTOPHER CASTILIAN

    https://www.scribd.com/document/685299158/11-17-2023-Final- Order#download&from_embed

    In her decision, Wallace said she found that Trump did in fact "engage in insurrection" on Jan. 6 and rejected his attorneys' arguments that he was simply engaging in free speech. Normally, that would be enough to
    disqualify him under Section 3, but she said she couldn't do so for a presidential candidate.

    Section 3 does not specifically refer to the presidency, as it does
    members of the U.S. Senate or House of Representatives. Instead, the
    clause refers to "elector of President and Vice President," along with
    civil and military offices.

    "Part of the Court's decision is its reluctance to embrace an
    interpretation which would disqualify a presidential candidate without a
    clear, unmistakable indication that such is the intent of Section Three,"
    the judge wrote.

    Closing arguments in the lawsuit, which was filed by the left-leaning
    group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, wrapped up on Wednesday. Sean Grimsley, an attorney for the petitioners, argued that
    Trump engaged in an insurrection by inciting a violent mob to attack the
    U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 to try to stop the peaceful transfer of power. He
    says that makes him ineligible to hold office under the 14th Amendment.
    Trump attorney Scott Gessler says there's no evidence that Trump intended
    to incite violence and violence, he says, doesn't equal an insurrection.

    Gessler said the lawsuit amounts to election interference and is based
    entirely on the Jan. 6 Committee's report which he says is completely one- sided.

    "The petitioners are asking this court to do something that's never been
    done in the history of the United States," Gessler said. "The evidence
    doesn't come close to allowing the court to do it."

    The trial, which ended two weeks ago, included testimony from D.C. riot
    police, rallygoers, constitutional experts, and two members of Congress.

    The Colorado plaintiffs' attorney, Sean Grimsley, told the judge during Wednesday's hearing that the evidence was clear.

    "We are here because, for the first time in our nation's history, the
    president of the United States engaged in an insurrection," he said,
    summing up their case. "Now he wants to be president again. The
    Constitution does not allow that."

    If they can keep Trump off the primary ballot in enough states, advocates
    hope to keep him from getting the needed delegates to secure the
    Republican presidential nomination.

    Regardless of the judge's decision, the case is all but certain to be
    appealed all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Similar lawsuits challenging Trump's ballot eligibility under the 14th Amendment have failed recently in Michigan and Minnesota. The Minnesota
    Supreme Court dodged the question of whether the provision applies to
    Trump, who is so far dominating the Republican presidential primary. It dismissed a lawsuit to toss him off that state's primary ballot by saying
    that political parties can allow whomever they want to qualify for
    primaries. The court left the door open for a general election challenge
    if Trump becomes the GOP nominee. A Michigan judge dismissed another
    lawsuit seeking to bounce Trump from that state's primary ballot with a
    more sweeping ruling. He said whether the provision applies to the former president is a "political question" to be settled by Congress, not judges.
    The liberal group that filed the Michigan case, Free Speech For People,
    said it plans to appeal the decision.

    The Trump campaign has called the lawsuits "election interference" and an "anti-democratic" attempt to stop voters from having the choice they want
    next November.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/judge-rule-donald-trump-eligible- colorado-primary-ballot-lawsuit-trial/

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  • From Owning The MAGAs@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 18 11:12:04 2023
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    Feeble old scatterbrain Trump (Inmate Number P01135809) will have spare
    change from his prison laundry duties to get by. He'll be sucking black
    dick too. At his age, he'll probably die in prison.

    Trump’s Total Charges Could Result In More Than 700 Years In Prison.

    Former President Donald Trump has been indicted on 91 federal and state
    charges in total after being indicted for the fourth time Monday in Fulton County, Georgia, facing a range of felony charges that all carry potential prison sentences that add up to a potential maximum sentence of 717.5
    years in prison,


    Manhattan – 136 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with 34 counts of
    falsifying business records in the first degree in his first indictment in Manhattan, stemming from “hush money” payments made during his 2016
    campaign, which as a class “E” felony under New York law carries a maximum four-year prison sentence for each count if convicted.

    Trump could face over 100 years in prison if he were convicted of every
    charge in that case.


    Classified Documents – 450 Years Maximum: Trump faces 40 federal charges
    after being indicted for bringing White House documents back to Mar-A-Lago
    with him and allegedly trying to obstruct the Justice Department’s investigation into them, including 32 counts of willful retention of
    national security documents, six counts related to obstruction and two
    counts for scheme to conceal and making false statements.

    That could result in 450 years maximum imprisonment, based on the willful retention charges each carrying up to 10 years in prison, the obstruction charges carrying potential 20-year penalties and the false statement
    charges carrying potentially five years each.


    Federal Election Investigation – 55 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with
    four felony counts as part of the Justice Department’s investigation into
    his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, including conspiracy to defraud
    the U.S., obstruction, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights, a 19th century law that criminalizes when two
    or more people “conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate” any Americans “in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege”
    they’re afforded under the Constitution or federal law.

    Those charges could result in more than 50 years in prison if Trump were convicted of all counts, based on maximum sentences of five years for conspiracy to defraud, 20 years for each obstruction charge and 10 years
    for conspiracy against rights.


    Fulton County – 76.5 Years Maximum: Trump was indicted on 13 state charges
    in Fulton County for trying to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election—part of 41 total counts brought against 19 defendants—including charges for
    racketeering (known as RICO charges), solicitation of violation of oath by
    a public officer, conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer, conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree, false statements and writings, conspiracy to commit false statements and writings, filing false documents and conspiracy to commit filing false documents.

    Trump could spend more than 70 years in prison if he were convicted on all counts, based on maximum sentences of 20 years for racketeering, three
    years for solicitation (three counts), 2.5 years for conspiracy to
    impersonate a public officer, 7.5 years for forgery conspiracy (two
    counts), five years for false statements (two counts), 2.5 years for
    conspiracy to commit false statements (two counts), 10 years for filing
    false documents and five years for conspiracy to file false documents.

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