• Re: Compare Biden's US debt to Trump's.

    From Trump - Inmate Number P01135809@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 18 01:47:32 2023
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    Feeble old scatterbrain Trump (Inmate Number P01135809) will have spare
    change from his prison laundry duties to get by. He'll be sucking black
    dick too. At his age, he'll probably die in prison.

    Trump’s Total Charges Could Result In More Than 700 Years In Prison.

    Former President Donald Trump has been indicted on 91 federal and state
    charges in total after being indicted for the fourth time Monday in Fulton County, Georgia, facing a range of felony charges that all carry potential prison sentences that add up to a potential maximum sentence of 717.5
    years in prison,



    Manhattan – 136 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with 34 counts of
    falsifying business records in the first degree in his first indictment in Manhattan, stemming from “hush money” payments made during his 2016
    campaign, which as a class “E” felony under New York law carries a maximum four-year prison sentence for each count if convicted.

    Trump could face over 100 years in prison if he were convicted of every
    charge in that case.



    Classified Documents – 450 Years Maximum: Trump faces 40 federal charges
    after being indicted for bringing White House documents back to Mar-A-Lago
    with him and allegedly trying to obstruct the Justice Department’s investigation into them, including 32 counts of willful retention of
    national security documents, six counts related to obstruction and two
    counts for scheme to conceal and making false statements.

    That could result in 450 years maximum imprisonment, based on the willful retention charges each carrying up to 10 years in prison, the obstruction charges carrying potential 20-year penalties and the false statement
    charges carrying potentially five years each.


    Federal Election Investigation – 55 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with
    four felony counts as part of the Justice Department’s investigation into
    his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, including conspiracy to defraud
    the U.S., obstruction, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights, a 19th century law that criminalizes when two
    or more people “conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate” any Americans “in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege”
    they’re afforded under the Constitution or federal law.

    Those charges could result in more than 50 years in prison if Trump were convicted of all counts, based on maximum sentences of five years for conspiracy to defraud, 20 years for each obstruction charge and 10 years
    for conspiracy against rights.



    Fulton County – 76.5 Years Maximum: Trump was indicted on 13 state charges
    in Fulton County for trying to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election—part of 41 total counts brought against 19 defendants—including charges for
    racketeering (known as RICO charges), solicitation of violation of oath by
    a public officer, conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer, conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree, false statements and writings, conspiracy to commit false statements and writings, filing false documents and conspiracy to commit filing false documents.

    Trump could spend more than 70 years in prison if he were convicted on all counts, based on maximum sentences of 20 years for racketeering, three
    years for solicitation (three counts), 2.5 years for conspiracy to
    impersonate a public officer, 7.5 years for forgery conspiracy (two
    counts), five years for false statements (two counts), 2.5 years for
    conspiracy to commit false statements (two counts), 10 years for filing
    false documents and five years for conspiracy to file false documents.

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  • From Trump land@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 18 07:30:46 2023
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    On 17 Nov 2023, "Trump - Inmate Number P01135809"
    <patriot1@protonmail.com> posted some news:uj953j$31g9r$1@dont-email.me:

    Democrats will make fools of themselves again.

    BUFFALO, Iowa — A majority of Iowa's Republican voters say they're
    sticking with former President Donald Trump, even after their popular
    governor said he couldn't win — and endorsed Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

    Trump is so far ahead in Iowa polls that some voters in Buffalo, Iowa, a
    small riverfront community down the Mississippi River from Davenport are starting to feel a bit apathetic about the upcoming caucuses.

    "It just seems like it's a done deal," said John McBride, who was walking
    his two dogs near his house. "It's not even close."

    But Trump's lead is also causing some anxiety among those who worry about
    his general election electability challenges.

    Michelle Stone, 62, sits around a high top table at Judy's Barge Inn, with
    her husband and two friends.

    The retired logistics dispatcher worries about Trump's poor "bedside
    manner" and says Iowa Gov. Kim Reynold's endorsement carries a lot of
    weight with her.

    She likes Trump a lot, but she fears he's too divisive and can't beat
    President Biden in a general election.

    "My heart just tells me that if he...," she said, cautiously, before
    pausing. "We could have a chance to lose. I would love to have him. But sometimes I think, maybe, we need another Republican in there to win."

    Her friend, Darla Chaddock, 61, just doesn't agree.

    She too loves Reynolds, but the retired registered nurse says she's sick
    and tired of career politicians. She insists the country was better off
    under Trump.

    "She's the best for Iowa," Chaddock agreed of Reynolds.

    "I think Trump, being a businessman, is the best for the United States,"
    she added.

    It's a debate that is playing across this hamlet of about 2,000 people
    where the regular trains serve as a soundtrack of the town.

    The community is split between those who love Trump and those who don't, according to Mary Moore, a registered Democrat who serves on the local
    city council.

    "Even in my own family, we've got big Trump supporters," she explained.
    "It's more Trump or anti-Trump than Trump or Biden."

    Moore was leaning toward supporting Tim Scott until he dropped out.


    But she emphasizes those who love Trump, really love him and will go out
    of their way to support him.

    She doesn't think there are nearly enough other voters to stop him from
    winning the Republican nomination.

    "It certainly seems like right now that's who is going to win the
    Republican nomination," she said.

    "But I don't want it."

    She's not alone.

    McBride says he'd pick almost any of the other Republican candidates, but
    the 62-year-old small business owner thinks Trump has the nomination
    wrapped up. He's trying to convince his wife of that as well.

    "My wife was watching the debate and I said, 'honey, why are you wasting
    your time,'" he said. "And she goes well, 'what if Donald Trump has a
    heart attack?' And, I said 'honey, he's not going to have a heart attack.
    He's going to be our nominee.' "

    Around the corner, Joe Bartleson and his wife are also taking a second
    look at DeSantis after the Reynolds endorsement.

    Bartleson, 34, says he's always kind of liked DeSantis.

    "He's kind of like Trump, he says what's on his mind," he said. "That's
    how most working class are. I'm not going to give you a line of bull
    crap."

    But his wife, Alisha Bartleson, 34, says that doesn't mean they're ready
    to support DeSantis.

    She turns to check on her two young daughters on their swing set while her
    son speeds down the slide before sharing the feelings of a lot of people
    here in Buffalo — and in Iowa.

    "Her saying that makes me want to get to know more about him," Alisha
    Bartleson said of Reynolds' endorsement of DeSantis, "but as of right now, Trump will get our vote."

    https://www.npr.org/2023/11/17/1213374716/iowa-voters-apathy-caucus-trump- desantis-reynolds

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