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There Really Was "Collusion" Between The Clinton Campaign And Russia To Create The Steele Dossier

Former Rep. John Ratcliffe, who served as Director of National Intelligence in the Trump administration, told FNC's Maria Bartiromo on "Sunday Morning Futures" that the Durham probe into the origins of the FBI's Trump-Russia collusion investigation will actually reveal that it was the Clinton campaign that colluded with Russians to frame former President Trump.

"As you're finding out, is, there was, of course, no Russian collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia," he said. "But what I did see in intelligence documents, some of which I have now declassified, was that there was collusion involving the Clinton campaign and Russians to create a dossier."

"Everyone associated with the Steele dossier, with its creation, its peddling to the FBI, and its use with by law enforcement authorities against the Trump campaign illegally is in criminal jeopardy right now," he said.


MARIA BARTIROMO, FOX BUSINESS: Thank you for all of your work all of these years, John.

JOHN RATCLIFFE, FORMER U.S. DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: You have been an important part of getting this story out to at least some of the American people.

And I'm glad that the developments that have happened this week, that some of the American people are getting to see some of the information that I saw as the director of national intelligence that was so important.

BARTIROMO: And it was so important for you to get this out.

There is now a third indictment. We will show those three indictments on the screen right now. And then I want to get into the two most important items that you declassified. You declassified these things before the election of 2020.

And you also identified what specifically happened. Let's talk about John... Brennan's notes. And they were handwritten notes. And we're going to show them on the screen right now. Tell me what they said.

RATCLIFFE: Let's start at the beginning. When we talked about this I talked on this show with you about many things as a member of Congress. But when I became the director of national intelligence, I said, listen, I want to see all of the intelligence about this supposed Russian collusion.

And what I found was, and as you're finding out, is, there was, of course, no Russian collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. But what I did see in intelligence documents, some of which I have now declassified, was that there was collusion involving the Clinton campaign and Russians to create a dossier.

And so what John Brennan's notes reveal is, we talk about these indictments. Igor Danchenko is now the third person to be criminally indicted in connection with the Steele dossier for peddling something that was known to be false to the FBI.

But what's important here is, John Brennan's own notes reflect and the other document that I declassified show that our intelligence community and our FBI knew this ahead of time, that Hillary Clinton we had specific intelligence that Hillary Clinton was creating a plan to vilify Donald Trump, to falsely accuse him of ties to Russia.

And the intelligence community and the FBI knew this. And President Obama, Vice President Biden were briefed by John Brennan and James Clapper and Jim Comey in early August of 2016. And John Solomon's earlier point was right. It all should have stopped at that point. Everything related to the Steele dossier was known to be untrue.

But yet it was the predicate for moving forward with an unjust, unfair, and ultimately now, everyone accepts, a criminal, criminally negligent investigation against the Trump campaign. It was a crime to investigate Donald Trump because there was no probable cause, as FBI Director Christopher Wray has admitted under oath. There was no probable cause for those FISA applications, because they used the Steele dossier. And it was phony.

BARTIROMO: So, to underline John Brennan's notes, he has a he says there was an exchange, and it shows us that Hillary Clinton has approved a plan concerning U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russia and tying him to a scandal there.

From then, then you have the CIA telling the FBI this is the second most important document that you declassified. And this is what's called a CIOL. This Is a counterintelligence operational lead. It's the CIA telling the FBI, we have this information. Hillary has cooked up this plan against Donald Trump. You need to investigate it.

Tell me more.

RATCLIFFE: Yes, so why it's unfortunately, what happened there is the CIA, because it can't use our intelligence authorities, under the law, can't be used for domestic purposes, and then because this involved Hillary Clinton's campaign and people associated with it, a referral had to be made to the FBI.

Unfortunately, as you see from that document, the referral went to disgraced FBI agent Peter Strzok, who had, just weeks before receiving that referral, had sent text messages promising to F. Trump, to stop Trump, to make sure Trump would never become president.

So, as you said earlier, the person who was supposed to be investigating the fake Steele dossier before John Durham ever got involved was Peter Strzok. And, instead, what he did was bury that part of it as it related to Hillary Clinton, and instead took a dossier that he knew to be false, used it to get a FISA application that he knew to be illegal, and used it to perpetuate an investigation that went on for four years that misrepresented everything to the American people.

And that's why everyone associated with the Steele dossier, with its creation, its peddling to the FBI, and its use with by law enforcement authorities against the Trump campaign illegally is in criminal jeopardy right now.

BARTIROMO: So, do you think that that is what John Durham is looking at? Do you think we will see potential indictments?

RATCLIFFE: I know that.

Well, I know that. I know that, Maria, because, as you know, many of the documents that John Durham is using are documents that I gave him. So I declassified the documents that we have talked about, but I gave John Durham over 1,000 other documents that have not yet been declassified that I know include intelligence that goes specifically to this criminal activity that would be the basis for further indictments.

And, again, what happened with the Steele dossier, a grand jury is saying, was criminal in nature. And I expect that all of the folks that are involved with creating it and peddling it falsely would be in jeopardy.

And I know that that's what John Durham is looking at. And, as I talked about, this goes to the highest levels of our government and the government agencies involved.

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