• Re: FBI accused of targeting Trump types; agents who served in military

    From The Patriot@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 13 21:51:28 2023
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    More whistleblowers have stepped forward to tell Congress that
    high-ranking FBI officials are targeting agents, specifically former
    military members, for their political beliefs and trying to force
    them out of the bureau.


    Biden will use the power of the US government to crush doddering old fool
    Trump and his gaggle of America hating extremist followers because they are
    all subversives. It will be a great day for freedom when word comes that Trump has died behind bars like the common criminal he's always been.

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  • From L Ron@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 14 02:08:48 2023
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    These people are all lying Trumpswabs. What they're describing is not >happening and has not happened. They are lying.



    641 years behind bars? No, but Trump’s risk of prison is real.

    Of the more than six dozen felonies that Trump is accused of, many often
    result in harsh sentences.
    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election is photographed.

    The indictment against former President Donald Trump charging him by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election, pictured. | Jon Elswick/AP Photo

    By Erica Orden

    08/02/2023 06:37 PM EDT

    Donald Trump now faces 78 felony charges across three criminal cases —
    many of them carrying the potential for hefty prison time.

    If Trump were convicted on all counts and given the maximum statutory
    penalty for each one, he would face a whopping 641 years in prison. And
    that’s not counting additional criminal charges he may face in Georgia,
    where the district attorney in Fulton County may be on the verge of
    indicting him this month.

    But the reality of any prison term that Trump could plausibly receive is
    far more complicated.

    In both state and federal courts, judges have wide latitude in sentencing.
    None of the crimes Trump has been charged with carry a mandatory minimum sentence, and defendants with no prior criminal record — a status that, at least for now, applies to Trump — rarely receive the maximum. And if the 77-year-old former president were convicted of multiple counts within the
    same case, any sentences for those counts might run simultaneously, rather
    than being stacked on top of each other.

    More broadly, sending Trump to prison could raise unprecedented practical
    and legal issues that would be on any judge’s mind. For one thing, there
    is the extraordinary logistical challenge of jailing a former president
    who is entitled to around-the-clock Secret Service protection. For
    another, there is the potential constitutional crisis that could ensue if
    Trump were reelected to the White House in 2024 and then ordered by a
    judge to serve out a prison term.

    Those concerns aside, some of the felonies Trump is accused of —
    particularly in the two federal cases brought by special counsel Jack
    Smith — routinely entail significant sentences. Legal experts anticipate
    that Smith’s team, if they obtain convictions against Trump, will seek substantial prison time in both cases they have brought, one involving his retention of classified documents and the other involving his bid to
    overturn the 2020 election.

    Trump himself has even touted the threat of a significant prison sentence
    in recent fundraising emails, with his campaign and a PAC saying in late
    July, “While my primary opponents continue to take cheap swipes at me as
    the Department of Justice plots ways to throw me in JAIL for up to 561
    YEARS, I am asking YOU to stand with me at this pivotal moment in the election.”

    The charges that might carry the most severe penalties for Trump involve obstruction of justice. In both federal cases, Smith has accused him of violating various provisions of the federal statutes that prohibit
    obstructing official proceedings or obstructing investigations. All of the obstruction charges — which include allegedly impeding the government’s attempts to retrieve the classified documents and disrupting the Jan. 6,
    2021, session of Congress — have a 20-year maximum sentence.

    While Trump’s lack of a criminal record could weigh in favor of a sentence
    much lower than that, prosecutors might argue that so-called aggravating factors — like Trump’s alleged efforts, in both cases, to pressure others
    to commit crimes — support a stiffer term.

    Trump’s willingness, or lack thereof, to accept responsibility if
    convicted also would play a role in a judge’s sentence.
    Politicians react to Trump’s Jan. 6 indictment

    The core charges in the classified documents case — 32 counts of willful retention of national defense information in violation of the Espionage
    Act — also routinely entail significant sentences for people found guilty. Earlier this year, a former Air Force intelligence officer was sentenced
    to three years for retaining various classified documents. In 2021, a West Virginia woman was sentenced to eight years for retaining a single
    National Security Agency record.

    Additional charges in the election-interference case — alleging a
    conspiracy to defraud the United States and a conspiracy to deprive people
    of the right to vote — are less common in this context, so a potential
    sentence is more difficult to predict.

    The case that appears least likely to put Trump away is the prosecution by
    the Manhattan district attorney’s office, which charged Trump with
    falsifying business records in connection with a hush money payment to
    cover up an alleged affair with a porn star.

    In that case, Trump is charged with 34 felony counts under New York law,
    and each count carries a maximum sentence of four years. But legal experts
    say judges seldom sentence first-time offenders to any prison time for
    that crime.

    Trump is set to be arraigned in the election case on Thursday in
    Washington, D.C. He has pleaded not guilty in the other two cases.

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