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On 11/8/2023 8:19 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <upO2N.6$Ck2e.2@fx37.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
says...

On 11/8/2023 7:52 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <753nki1lirikdaij8ernuh3279djudg75r@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 22:11:02 -0800, OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> wrote:

On 11/6/2023 9:00 PM, Governor Swill wrote:

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 08:14:55 -0800, OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> wrote:

On 11/6/2023 7:55 AM, Attila wrote:

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023 07:32:40 -0800, OrigInfoJunkie
<bondrock@att.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<sG72N.368102$w4ec.91059@fx14.iad> wrote:

On 11/6/2023 12:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 07:16:01 -0400, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:

Many do not understand difference between market value and tax assessed
value. In my case, if I had to pay market value on my house, taxes
would be four times as high.

And many others do not understand the difference between market value and the
value-the-owner-wants-it-to-be-when-he-borrows-against-it. >>>>>>>>>>

Which was paid off in full, meaning no crime was comitted. [sic] >>>>>>>>>

A crime was *committed* (not "comitted"). The terms of the loan were better than
what the crook Trump deserved, due to the phony valuation.

Real estate valuation is a nebulous concept and

*Deliberately* faking the valuation isn't nebulous at all. It's fraud. Trump and
his two incompetent dullard sons inflated the value when seeking loans, and
understated the value when seeking property tax relief. It is fraud. >>>>>>

If you told me your school bus on blocks was a million dollar home and I loaned you a
million which you subsequently paid back as agreed, what idiot would complain?

If you knew that the supposed million dollar home was only a broken-down school
bus on blocks, you either wouldn't have lent the money on it at all, or you
would have charged a higher interest rate. Trump cheated his lenders out of
higher profits on their lending. They made some money, but not as much as they
would have if he hadn't engaged in fraud.

It's important to understand New York fraud law. New York law says it's fraud
*even if* no one actually lost money. All that matters is that the fraudsters
deceived the victims due . It is *irrelevant* if the deceived victims "feel"
defrauded.
https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/executive-law/exc-sect-63/

Trump engaged in persistent fraud, and that caused *general* harm to the >>>>> business community in New York.

Ok, so that's a state law specific I didn't know about.

Thanks for the info.

Swill

What a load of bullshit.

No, it's the *law*.

Since when do YOU care about the law?

Always.

The law said Rittenhouse was innocent.

No, it did not. Juries do not find criminal defendants "innocent."

In fact, some jurors initially voted to convict the murdering punk. They later changed their minds and voted to acquit the murdering punk, but they first thought he was guilty.

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On 11/8/2023 3:31 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <ms5okidm84ad9ge4p9itrf60de0osmnn5p@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 14:24:36 -0700, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

In article <i6hnkid25h979h3u894jao2k8fhmfdldou@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...

On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 13:38:10 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

According to Trump, and I don't know for certain if this is true, there is a property next to his
that is worth far more than the Mar A Lago appraisal. The property doesn't have dual water views
and is vacant.
If true, that would be a game changer.

Mar-a-lago is specifically a business property. When Trump cut the deal with the locals
to let him operate that business, they did so with two conditions. Nobody was allowed to
reside there, especially Trump, and the property was not to be developed into residential
housing.

So Trump inflates the value of the place by a factor of ten by pointing out the place
could be used for multi residential housing, which he knows to be false. >>>>
That's fraud.

That's business.

You all act like Trump is the only businessman to use loopholes.

It's fraud because he knows that's a lie. The land *cannot* be used for residential
housing.

Swill

He lives there.

Illegally, of course. He signed a "use agreement" with the city that the place would never be used as a residence.

But the use agreement, which was reviewed by The Times, states that no member
of the club could stay on the property for seven consecutive days a year, and
no more than 21 days a year.

“The significant tax breaks the president received for this arrangement
remain in effect, as does the use agreement,” Mr. Stambaugh wrote.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/us/a-27-year-old-agreement-may-prevent-trump-from-living-at-mar-a-lago.html

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