and as far as 100 miles
On 2023-09-26 21:06, AlleyCat wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 21:57:57 -0500, Unum says...
Sooooo... EVERY destination has to be less than about 90 miles, since NO ONE
wants to see how close to that 100 mile barrier they can get... riiiight?
Where does the article say that 100 miles is the absolute maximum?
'Capable of reaching a speed of 200 mph, it will have a range of 150
miles on a single charge.'
<https://www.futureflight.aero/aircraft-program/joby-evtol#>
Wait... ...I know! You're going to complain about two words: "will
have". Let me help you out:
'Joby Completes Flight of More Than 150 Miles with Electric Vertical
Take-Off Air Taxi'
<https://www.jobyaviation.com/news/joby-completes-flight-of-more-than-150-miles/>
154.6 miles to be exact.
Go back to talking about the weather, uNumbnuts. It's a little harder to make
you look stupid talking about the weather, than it is talking about future EVA
crashes, which WILL happen, and set EVaircraft back a decade.
So IC engine aircraft never crash, do they?
If YOU want to trust your life to a battery-operated flying vehicle... go ahead... just send us video of your experiences.
IC engine aircraft never run out of fuel in flight, do they?
Why not hydrogen-power? I think anyone who can make a turbine run on hydrogen,
has got it made.
1. Turbines are very high maintenance whereas electric motors are not.
2. What is the energy density of hydrogen... ...including the storage
vessel?
That's OPERATIONAL range which means it requires a reserve... ...which the Joby HAS: 50 miles.
As Joby states:
'With a range of up to 100 miles plus energy reserves and a top speed of
200 mph, the Joby aircraft is capable of transporting a pilot and four passengers quickly and quietly with zero operating emissions.'
Dude...
...why the hell can't you just admit you're wrong...
...when you're wrong?
The fact is that ranges with passengers get quoted...
...WITH APPROPRIATE RESERVES.
'100 miles plus energy reserves' matches up perfectly with the fact that:
(new material included, so read it all. I know you will, since your low self- esteem and narcissism will force you to... LOL)
*****
Air Force Receives Its First Electric Air Taxi - Too Bad Most Bases Are Farther
Than 100 Miles Apart
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 21:57:57 -0500, Unum says...
and as far as 100 miles
https://i.imgur.com/yXzkcH7.mp4
https://media.defense.gov/2007/Apr/17/2000790881/-1/-1/0/070417-F-ZZ000-536.JPG
Are they going to use them to go to the local titty bars?
Sooooo... EVERY destination has to be less than about 90 miles, since NO ONE wants to see how close to that 100 mile barrier they can get... riiiight?
Again, I'm all for EVs in any form, though you will NOT catch me in ANY electric aircraft, as long as the PUBLIC taxpayer is not paying for these PRIVATE companies to research and develop their product.
How many of US are going to be using these aircraft, yet, we're supposed to PAY
for them?
Go back to talking about the weather, uNumbnuts. It's a little harder to make you look stupid talking about the weather, than it is talking about future EVA
crashes, which WILL happen, and set EVaircraft back a decade.
If YOU want to trust your life to a battery-operated flying vehicle... go ahead... just send us video of your experiences.
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Busy day... hardly time to write, so there WILL be redundancy and mistakes. But, the main focus is YOUR inability to research what YOU write.
You stop when you've found what you THINK is the only article EVER written, that makes what UNUM said, a lie. I was quoting Unum, quoting the NY Times, which DOES have the updated figures and data on the mileage of the EVa.
Conclusion: you failed once again to refute me, as usual.
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:57:22 -0700, Alan says...
On 2023-09-26 21:06, AlleyCat wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 21:57:57 -0500, Unum says...
Sept. 25, 2023: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/25/business/air-force-joby-electric-air- taxi.html
See the date? Your source has none, but articles listed at the bottom OF your sourced site, does, and shows the mileage update. Read on, idiot.
Sooooo... EVERY destination has to be less than about 90 miles, since NO ONEWhere does the article say that 100 miles is the absolute maximum?
wants to see how close to that 100 mile barrier they can get... riiiight? >>
(right there, mother fucker... LOL... you'll see)
In Unum's source, or in yours?
LOL... you couldn't read the NYTimes article because of the paywall, so you decided to use your own source!! What a fucking putz.
BUT!... I'm so glad you did, because it gave ME the opportunity to show how lazy and unwilling you are to find out the truth, the WHOLE truth, and noting BUT the truth.
I'm sure you scoured the Internet JUST to try to make me look like a liar, when
I was simply replying to what UNUM wrote/quoted.
LOOK at the date of the article.
Sept. 25, 2023: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/25/business/air-force-joby-electric-air- taxi.html
Sept. 25, 2023:
"Joby, which is based in Santa Cruz, Calif., said that its electric aircraft is
substantially quieter than helicopters or planes. Each can carry one pilot and
four passengers and travel as fast as 200 miles per hour AND AS FAR AS 100 MILES, ACCORDING TO THE COMPANY."
What's the date on yours? "Unknown"
https://www.futureflight.aero/aircraft-program/joby-evtol#
https://i.imgur.com/TTWI4kP.png
Annnnd, they didn't list the mileage until the very last paragraph. No date means that have probably updated the mileage for the EVa.
Outdated:
'Capable of reaching a speed of 200 mph, it will have a range of 150
miles on a single charge.'
That's from YOUR source, which has no date, so we can NOT be sure if those numbers are current. We CAN from Unum's source.
<https://www.futureflight.aero/aircraft-program/joby-evtol#>
NOT the source that was used by Unum, you numbskull. Did you not SEE this...
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/25/business/air-force-joby-electric-air- taxi.html
... you fucking idiot, or are you soooooo fucking obsessed with trying to make
yourself look sooooo smart, you FAIL to read what *I'M* replying to?
If you would have bothered to research a little further on YOUR source, you'd have seen subsequent articles listed at the bottom of the page which DO have dates, AND a mileage "update", meaning the mileage estimate figures were probably updated in the model.
You fucking MORON:
I found this: why couldn't YOU have? Oh yeah... so obsessed with being a nerdy
little tattletale prick, you stopped researching after you found OUTDATED data, which makes you a liar.
RANGE LIMIT REBOOT, BUT NO MISSION CHANGE
"Joby's all-electric air taxi, which has room for four passengers plus one pilot, is DESIGNED TO FLY ON TRIPS OF UP TO 100 MILES while producing zero emissions, and at speeds of up to 200 mph. The company will not only mass- produce the aircraft, but it also intends to operate them for commercial air taxi services in cities."
You lazy fuck.
https://www.futureflight.aero/news-article/2023-09-15/jobys-first-evtol-air- taxi-factory-coming-dayton-ohio
https://i.imgur.com/bCbFVGz.png
https://i.imgur.com/ln0yZjF.png
From UNUM'S source:
"Joby, which is based in Santa Cruz, Calif., said that its electric aircraft is
substantially quieter than helicopters or planes. Each can carry one pilot and
four passengers and travel as fast as 200 miles per hour and as far as 100 miles, according to the company."
(turns out I was right... read on)
I have a sneaking suspicion, since YOUR article is not dated and couldn't POSSIBLY be any newer than Unum's article, that they've put the numbers BACK through their models and "adjusted" the max miles, so... you lose again.
I wrote that BEFORE finding updated sources from the website YOU sourced.
Wait... ...I know! You're going to complain about two words: "will
have". Let me help you out:
Yes, WILL have. That's the rub... (see next paragraph)
'Joby Completes Flight of More Than 150 Miles with Electric Vertical
Take-Off Air Taxi'
(giggle... turns out, that is COMPLETELY wrong using OUTDATED data)
If they haven't flown it yet, moron, then it's THEORETICAL mileage. They use MODELS to calculate distance, so when they actually DO fly the EVa, they will get REAL world data(which is ALWAYS different... your mileage may vary???), seeing how the wind will probably be blowing, the barometric pressure might be
higher or lower than what they used in their models. Also rain, humidity... etc.
<https://www.jobyaviation.com/news/joby-completes-flight-of-more-than-150-miles/>
(I know I'm being redundant, but I wrote much of this before I researched further, and found out your numbers were hogwash)
Not the same article as what I derived MY statement from, you stupid fuck. Unum's article is current... yours is not, but if you would have opened that fucking closed and obsessed mind of yours, you would have seen the articles at
the bottom of your sourced website, and seen UPDATED versions.
I find it VERY flattering, that you take time out of your busy schedule, you know... sending telepathic messages to your Russian Sports Officials and all, but, if you're going to refute what I write, do it with the same source, else you're simply being disingenuous, therefore, lying.
My article WAS dated... as you know.
<https://www.jobyaviation.com/news/joby-completes-flight-of-more-than-150-miles/>
Oh I'm totally against EVs. Lithium is a brain altering chemical -- makes >> you nice & docile -- and long term it destroys the kidneys. It's also
water soluble so, exposed to the elements, it's getting into the water
supply. Period.
So how much lithium have had?
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 12:33:37 -0700, Alan says...
Oh I'm totally against EVs. Lithium is a brain altering chemical -- makes >>>> you nice & docile -- and long term it destroys the kidneys. It's also
water soluble so, exposed to the elements, it's getting into the water >>>> supply. Period.
So how much lithium have had?
So how much lithium have had?
https://i.imgur.com/AC4Nu3q.mp4
On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 22:51:22 -0700, Alan says...
My article WAS dated... as you know.
Not the first one you posted, so, no... I do not know.
THIS was the first URL you posted:
https://www.futureflight.aero/aircraft-program/joby-evtol#
No date.
https://i.imgur.com/TTWI4kP.png
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.global-warming/c/j2q6EPOWUns/m/AUFo0sCuAQAJ
3rd line down. THAT is the first site you cited. It was out-of-date AND there was no date on it.
https://i.imgur.com/TTWI4kP.png
The SECOND site you cited was simply out-of-date... by MORE THAN TWO YEARS.
I then smacked your fucking nose, remember?
RANGE LIMIT REBOOT - 100 miles - NO reserve in ANY of the articles cited, mentioned.
Meaning, you made it up.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=do+electric+planes+have+reserve&ia=web
"Not many results contain reserve"
I know, in practice EVAs WILL have a reserve, but NONE of the articles cited about the Joby aircraft, to date, had ANYTHING in them about 100 miles PLUS reserve, so YOU don't know whether the 100 miles already INCLUDES a reserve...
do you?
LOL... get busy. I'll help.
https://www.google.com/search?q=do+electric+planes+have+a+reserve&newwindow=1 &sca_esv=570917586&source=hp&ei=SmgeZbWBA-SHptQPrcC66A4 &iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZR52WqPiuoamuZ8b8cc5lWkIX3Gh_Fj3&ved= 0ahUKEwi1zs_Ws96BAxXkg4kEHS2gDu0Q4dUDCAs&uact=5 &oq=do+electric+planes+have+a+reserve&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IiFkbyBlbGVjdHJpYyBwbGF
uZXMgaGF2ZSBhIHJlc2VydmUyBRAAGKIEMgUQABiiBDIIEAAYiQUYogQyBRAAGKIESO8ZUABYhhRwAH
gAkAEAmAGdAaABgwSqAQMwLjS4AQPIAQD4AQL4AQHCAgUQIRigAQ&sclient=gws-wiz
Just show us where it says the JOBY EVA has a 100 mile range PLUS a reserve.
<https://www.jobyaviation.com/news/joby-completes-flight-of-more-than-150-miles/>
https://images.prismic.io/joby-site/5050a6d9-37ce-41a6-a41a-5edea92bc508 _Screen+Shot+2021-07-27+at+1.31.41+AM_2240x1260.png? auto=compress,format&fit=crop&crop=faces&rect=null&q=80&blend-color=null&blend-
mode=null&w=900&h=562.5&dpr=1
154.6 miles was NOT the value of the flight distance... that was the distance covered in a closed-course-loop (predefined circuit). This is why they don't list the flight distance AS 154.6.
Flying in a circle and at a low altitude, can NOT be compared to flying "out" AND at an altitude better suited for a flight away from base.
I reiterate:
Seeing how the wind will probably be blowing in different directions over the course of the full 100 miles, MOSTLY in a STRAIGHT LINE to destination, not that circle bullshit[1], the barometric pressure might be higher or lower than
what they used in their models. Also rain, humidity... etc.
ALL of the weather and climate variables can come into play on a 100 mile trip
away from base, shortening the expected mileage considerably if the conditions
don't favour the EVA's flight.
[1] "predefined circuit" - LOL... they flew in circles so they wouldn't get too
far away if their modeled mileage figures were wrong. LOL
Flying around in circles in a "closed course"(predefined circuit), is NOT "real-world". It's almost the EXACT same thing as using a model to figure out mileage.
Flying in circles... a true test of flight worthiness..................... NOT!
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