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The Big Switch theory that the Democrats switched from being the bad guys to the good guys, is a myth. They've ALWAYS been the bad guys, but lied and covered it up well enough to get minorities on their side JUST for votes. Among THOUSANDS of other quotes and actions by the Democrats over the years...

"I'll have those Niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." - Lyndon Baines Johnson(D)

Now... their bad guy image is perking up again, as THEY'RE the ones sacrificing PEOPLE for money. Democrats are the elites (now?) and on the side of Big Pharma. Republicans are NOT innocent here, but to help illustrate what I'm talking about, is this...

Russel Brand:

Out of respect for your show, I've brought some facts.

Maher: (jokingly) You just get the fuck outta here. This is not the place (for facts). We don't really like facts. I love that. I love facts.

Brand: I wouldn't have mentioned it. I'm English, and you know that politeness is our fundamental religion. But they do pertain to this issue. So, man, say something, please.

If they inconvenience you, I'll stop saying them.

The pandemic created at least 40 new pharma billionaires. Pharmaceutical corporations like Moderna and Pfizer made a thousand dollars of profit every second from the COVID-19 vaccine.

More than two thirds of Congress received campaign funding from pharmaceutical companies in the 2020 election. Pfizer chairman Albert Bourla told time magazine in July 2020 that his company was developing a COVID vaccine for the good of humanity, not for money.

And of course, Pfizer made a hundred billion dollars in profit in 2022. And may I just mention, finally, and this is also a fact that you, the American public, funded the development of that.

The German public funded the bioNTech vaccine. When it came to the profits, they took the profits. When it came to the funding, you paid for the funding.

All I'm querying is this. Is if you have an economic system in which pharmaceutical companies benefit hugely from medical emergencies, where a military industrial complex benefits from war, where an energy companies benefit from energy crisis... you are going to generate states of perpetual crisis, but in the interests of ordinary people, separate from the interests of the elite.

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The Liberal Argument Outline

1. Use spun facts:

These can be found on Huffington Post, Daily Kos, MSNBC, and many other liberal sources. What they do is take facts, polls or arguments and add a liberal spin in a weak attempt to make bad news for liberals look good. These are easily debunked and exposed as lies by going to the original source and posting the hard, cold facts with NO spin.

Note: At this point, you have won. It should never take more than one
post to win an argument with a liberal. It is recommended that you claim victory and disengage at this point. If you continue, for fun or
experimental purposes, no further logic will be forthcoming from the
liberals.

2. The Next Step For The Liberal Will Be To Attempt To Discredit Your
Source

If it is Fox or any perceived "right wing" source, they will refuse to
believe it. If it is a non-partisan source, they will claim it is right
wing, if it is a left of center source, they will find another lefty
source to "prove" you are wrong. They will not discuss the facts
themselves, as they know they have lost. If you must go down this road
(there is a high entertainment value), don't allow this diversion. Go
back to the facts.

3. The Limbaugh Defense:

This is one that comes out early and often. Although you know they never listen to Rush Limbaugh and have no idea what he says, they will drag him out and claim you are a Ditto head. This is another diversionary tactic. It has no relevance and is an attempt to change the subject. The more desperate they are, the more childish and ridiculous the reference to Limbaugh becomes: Flush, LimpBag, etc. Ignore this and re-post the facts. DO NOT BE DIVERTED.

4. The Personal Attack:

Another common thread. Also designed to divert the lost argument. NEVER give any hint of personal information. Even something as innocuous as "I am a chef".

They will attempt to engage you and call you a liar to divert attention
from the original lost argument. Ignore this and re-post the facts yet
to be refuted.

5. Name Calling:

Still another diversion. If you fail to give them any personal information, they will attempt to draw you out to gain more insight into your personal side. Then they will return to step 4. Ignore this.

6. The Liberal Bat Signal:

When they find out they are unable to engage
you, divert you or goad you into a completely irrelevant topic, they
will send out the Bat Signal. This is where a bunch of Liberals (or
often, the same one using several names, i.e., Rudy) post a number of
rapid fire posts congratulating the Liberal on handing you your head on
a platter. This tactic often works on even the most logical and
disciplined of us. The urge to rant must be resisted. Your rant will
supply them with all the personal insight they need to spew hatred and
personal attacks. The best tactic here is to use the same tactic back at
them.

Keep in mind, a Liberal will never admit you have a valid point (Dutch
did, once), much less that you won a debate. So, the only reasons to
continue a dialog with a liberal after the initial statement of facts
that established your victory are for entertainment and educational
purposes. If you refuse to take the bait and demand the topic remain on
the original premise, they will eventually just go away and try to find
someone else that will engage them on their terms.

Now, go away, Snowflake.

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