• Now Biden Wants to Deny Your Consumer's Choice in Water Heaters

    From Paul Ragna@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 13 22:31:11 2023
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    This maniac Joe Biden is out of control.
    Welcome to the new communist America.

    "Now Biden Wants to Deny Your Consumer’s Choice in Water Heaters"

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    "President Joe Biden’s proposed energy efficiency standards for water
    heaters, released July 21 by the Energy Department, not only would raise
    the cost of water heaters for consumers but take certain products off the market.

    One popular tankless natural gas water heater, made by Rinnai in Griffin, Georgia, would have to be discontinued. The public has until Sept. 26 to
    file comments.

    Beginning in 2029, the Energy Department’s proposed regulation would set government standards for all types of water heaters, including gas-fired, oil-fired, electric, and instantaneous tankless water heaters.

    The proposed rule would raise standards disproportionately for tankless, gas-fired water heaters to over 91% efficiency. Trouble is, achieving
    this level of efficiency with noncondensing technology is impossible to
    do.

    This change would deprive Americans of a valuable option when it comes to
    water heaters. Consumers could purchase electric tankless water heaters,
    but not the less expensive models heated with natural gas.

    Rinnai, whose products are used all over the world, is headquartered in
    Nagoya, Japan. It set up production in Georgia in 2001 and directly
    employs around 350 in a factory there, benefiting local restaurants and
    small businesses.

    Rinnai is the only company that produces tankless water heaters in the
    United States. Its noncondensing natural gas water heater sells for about $1,100 at Home Depot, compared to $1,800 for a 75-gallon tank.

    The Energy Department’s proposed efficiency standard essentially would
    ban noncondensing, gas-fired, tankless water heaters because the
    technology of heating water with gas reaches its efficiency limit without
    using more expensive “condensing” technology.

    Although noncondensing, gas-fired, tankless water heaters are more
    efficient than water heaters with tanks, the latter aren’t subject to the
    same standard.

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  • From Charlie Glock <"Charlie@21:1/5 to Paul Ragna on Thu Sep 14 11:24:47 2023
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    On 2023-09-13, Paul Ragna <tpragna1900O@gmail.com> wrote:
    This maniac Joe Biden is out of control.
    Welcome to the new communist America.

    "Now Biden Wants to Deny Your ConsumerÂ’s Choice in Water Heaters"

    <https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4182206/posts>
    "President Joe BidenÂ’s proposed energy efficiency standards for water heaters, released July 21 by the Energy Department, not only would raise
    the cost of water heaters for consumers but take certain products off the market.

    One popular tankless natural gas water heater, made by Rinnai in Griffin, Georgia, would have to be discontinued. The public has until Sept. 26 to
    file comments.

    Beginning in 2029, the Energy DepartmentÂ’s proposed regulation would set government standards for all types of water heaters, including gas-fired, oil-fired, electric, and instantaneous tankless water heaters.

    The proposed rule would raise standards disproportionately for tankless, gas-fired water heaters to over 91% efficiency. Trouble is, achieving
    this level of efficiency with noncondensing technology is impossible to
    do.

    This change would deprive Americans of a valuable option when it comes to water heaters. Consumers could purchase electric tankless water heaters,
    but not the less expensive models heated with natural gas.

    Rinnai, whose products are used all over the world, is headquartered in Nagoya, Japan. It set up production in Georgia in 2001 and directly
    employs around 350 in a factory there, benefiting local restaurants and
    small businesses.

    Rinnai is the only company that produces tankless water heaters in the
    United States. Its noncondensing natural gas water heater sells for about $1,100 at Home Depot, compared to $1,800 for a 75-gallon tank.

    The Energy DepartmentÂ’s proposed efficiency standard essentially would
    ban noncondensing, gas-fired, tankless water heaters because the
    technology of heating water with gas reaches its efficiency limit without using more expensive “condensing” technology.

    Although noncondensing, gas-fired, tankless water heaters are more
    efficient than water heaters with tanks, the latter arenÂ’t subject to the same standard.

    It's just another method of controlling the people. The lock downs and masking were nothing more
    than a dry run to see what the elite could get away with. And the sheep lined up.

    --
    Charlie Glock
    "To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
    -- Adolf Hitler

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  • From Johnny@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 09:10:53 2023
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    On 9/13/2023 3:31 PM, fat cocksucker whined:

    This maniac Joe Biden is out of control.
    Welcome to the new communist America.

    "Now Biden Wants to Deny Your Consumer’s Choice in Water Heaters"

    Some years ago, the government took away consumers' choice to buy leaded gasoline, too. You got over it.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Johnny on Fri Sep 15 12:47:14 2023
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    "Johnny" <joannie@invalid.net> wrote in message news:hm%MM.22279$H8td.6103@fx10.iad...
    On 9/13/2023 3:31 PM, fat cocksucker whined:

    This maniac Joe Biden is out of control.
    Welcome to the new communist America.

    "Now Biden Wants to Deny Your Consumer’s Choice in Water Heaters"

    Some years ago, the government took away consumers' choice to buy leaded gasoline, too. You got over it.

    Nope.. still have to add lead additives to the gasoline for certain engines otherwise they will have excessive wear to the valve seats.

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