• But Still... US Deficit Skyrockets Thanks To Biden's Massive Government

    From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 12 12:42:50 2023
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    How cute...a "conservative" making believe he's concerned about deficits.

    How cute... a "liberal" making light of deficits, taxing and spending, by projecting towards a "conservative", as if that nullifies the deficit spending by Biden and the Democrats. (see signature)

    Insert "but, but, but Trummmmmp" below:

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    US Deficit Skyrockets Thanks To Biden's Massive Government Spending
    From: Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2023 21:05:02 -0400

    Summary: https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/04/us-deficit-bidenomics-government- spending/

    The federal government's deficit for fiscal year 2023 is set to double
    thanks largely to large amounts of government spending greenlit by the
    Biden administration, according to budget experts surveyed by The
    Washington Post.

    The deficit will most likely reach $2 trillion, doubling from 2022's $1 trillion deficit, because of President Joe Biden's increased government spending on the Inflation Reduction Act, as well as higher Social
    Security payments due to elevated inflation, according to the Post.
    This deficit jump is one of the largest in a time outside of major
    crises such as wars and recessions, and signals a further increase in
    interest rates and more economic difficulties in the near future.

    "A debt growing much faster than the economy will drive up interest
    rates, reduce economic investment, and over time make interest payments
    the largest federal expenditure - risking a federal debt crisis," Brian
    Riedl, an economist at the Manhattan Institute, said, according to the
    Post.

    Explosive piece in the Washington Post (by @JStein_WaPo assisted by @BudgetHawks) showing that the budget deficit is set to to
    $2 trillion this year.

    This is basically unprecedented in U.S. history during relative peace
    and prosperity.https://t.co/Kzfs78J5jr pic.twitter.com/KmZYXi2Emo

    - Brian Riedl(@Brian_Riedl) September 4, 2023

    The recent deficit jump could potentially impact Biden's hopes for re-
    election in 2024, as voters respond to economic difficulties. Biden has
    touted his goal to reduce the deficit in his "Bidenomics" plan, and
    criticized former President Trump for his response to the deficit
    during his time in office, according to a White House press release.

    Biden has repeatedly claimed that his policies reduced the federal
    deficit, but government spending only reduced after COVID-19 related
    spending measures expired following Biden's entrance into office.

    The government has spent $1.61 trillion more than it brought in since
    October 2022, marking a 122% deficit increase, according to the U.S.
    Department of Treasury. If the deficit continues to grow at this pace, Americans will earn an estimated $9,000 less per year in 2049 - a 10%
    decrease - compared to declining debt, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

    "To see this in an economy with low unemployment is truly stunning.
    There's never been anything like it," Jason Furman, former economic
    advisor to the Obama administration, said, according to the Post. "A
    good and strong economy, with no new emergency spending - and yet a
    deficit like this. The fact that it is so big in one year makes you
    think it must be some weird freakish thing going on."

    The Treasury Department did not immediately respond to the Daily Caller
    News Foundation's request for comment.

    Fuck, Joe Biden!

    ===============================================================================

    The Liberal Argument Outline

    1. Use spun facts:

    These can be found on Huffington Post, Daily Kos, MSNBC, and many other liberal sources. What they do is take facts, polls or arguments and add a liberal spin in a weak attempt to make bad news for liberals look good. These are easily debunked and exposed as lies by going to the original source and posting the hard, cold facts with NO spin.

    Note: At this point, you have won. It should never take more than one
    post to win an argument with a liberal. It is recommended that you claim victory and disengage at this point. If you continue, for fun or
    experimental purposes, no further logic will be forthcoming from the
    liberals.

    2. The Next Step For The Liberal Will Be To Attempt To Discredit Your
    Source

    If it is Fox or any perceived "right wing" source, they will refuse to
    believe it. If it is a non-partisan source, they will claim it is right
    wing, if it is a left of center source, they will find another lefty
    source to "prove" you are wrong. They will not discuss the facts
    themselves, as they know they have lost. If you must go down this road
    (there is a high entertainment value), don't allow this diversion. Go
    back to the facts.

    3. The Limbaugh Defense:

    This is one that comes out early and often. Although you know they never listen to Rush Limbaugh and have no idea what he says, they will drag him out and claim you are a Ditto head. This is another diversionary tactic. It has no relevance and is an attempt to change the subject. The more desperate they are, the more childish and ridiculous the reference to Limbaugh becomes: Flush, LimpBag, etc. Ignore this and re-post the facts. DO NOT BE DIVERTED.

    4. The Personal Attack:

    Another common thread. Also designed to divert the lost argument. NEVER give any hint of personal information. Even something as innocuous as "I am a chef".

    They will attempt to engage you and call you a liar to divert attention
    from the original lost argument. Ignore this and re-post the facts yet
    to be refuted.

    5. Name Calling:

    Still another diversion. If you fail to give them any personal information, they will attempt to draw you out to gain more insight into your personal side. Then they will return to step 4. Ignore this.

    6. The Liberal Bat Signal:

    When they find out they are unable to engage
    you, divert you or goad you into a completely irrelevant topic, they
    will send out the Bat Signal. This is where a bunch of Liberals (or
    often, the same one using several names, i.e., Rudy) post a number of
    rapid fire posts congratulating the Liberal on handing you your head on
    a platter. This tactic often works on even the most logical and
    disciplined of us. The urge to rant must be resisted. Your rant will
    supply them with all the personal insight they need to spew hatred and
    personal attacks. The best tactic here is to use the same tactic back at
    them.

    Keep in mind, a Liberal will never admit you have a valid point (Dutch
    did, once), much less that you won a debate. So, the only reasons to
    continue a dialog with a liberal after the initial statement of facts
    that established your victory are for entertainment and educational
    purposes. If you refuse to take the bait and demand the topic remain on
    the original premise, they will eventually just go away and try to find
    someone else that will engage them on their terms.

    Now, go away, Snowflake.

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  • From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 12 12:43:01 2023
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    On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 13:47:36 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...


    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in news:hsKcnXupbIRpjJ34nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com:

    The federal government?s deficit for fiscal year 2023 is set to double thanks largely to large amounts of government spending greenlit by the Biden administration, according to budget experts surveyed by The Washington Post.



    Conservatives pretend to care about the defict.

    How quaint..........

    How quaint... a "liberal" (who we KNOW doesn't care about deficits, because he probably doesn't pat taxes), making light of deficits, taxing and spending, by projecting towards a "conservative", as if that nullifies the deficit spending by Biden and the Democrats. (see signature)

    Insert "but, but, but Trummmmmp" below:

    ______________________________________________________________________________

    =====

    US Deficit Skyrockets Thanks To Biden's Massive Government Spending
    From: Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2023 21:05:02 -0400

    Summary: https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/04/us-deficit-bidenomics-government- spending/

    The federal government's deficit for fiscal year 2023 is set to double
    thanks largely to large amounts of government spending greenlit by the
    Biden administration, according to budget experts surveyed by The
    Washington Post.

    The deficit will most likely reach $2 trillion, doubling from 2022's $1 trillion deficit, because of President Joe Biden's increased government spending on the Inflation Reduction Act, as well as higher Social
    Security payments due to elevated inflation, according to the Post.
    This deficit jump is one of the largest in a time outside of major
    crises such as wars and recessions, and signals a further increase in
    interest rates and more economic difficulties in the near future.

    "A debt growing much faster than the economy will drive up interest
    rates, reduce economic investment, and over time make interest payments
    the largest federal expenditure - risking a federal debt crisis," Brian
    Riedl, an economist at the Manhattan Institute, said, according to the
    Post.

    Explosive piece in the Washington Post (by @JStein_WaPo assisted by @BudgetHawks) showing that the budget deficit is set to to
    $2 trillion this year.

    This is basically unprecedented in U.S. history during relative peace
    and prosperity.https://t.co/Kzfs78J5jr pic.twitter.com/KmZYXi2Emo

    - Brian Riedl(@Brian_Riedl) September 4, 2023

    The recent deficit jump could potentially impact Biden's hopes for re-
    election in 2024, as voters respond to economic difficulties. Biden has
    touted his goal to reduce the deficit in his "Bidenomics" plan, and
    criticized former President Trump for his response to the deficit
    during his time in office, according to a White House press release.

    Biden has repeatedly claimed that his policies reduced the federal
    deficit, but government spending only reduced after COVID-19 related
    spending measures expired following Biden's entrance into office.

    The government has spent $1.61 trillion more than it brought in since
    October 2022, marking a 122% deficit increase, according to the U.S.
    Department of Treasury. If the deficit continues to grow at this pace, Americans will earn an estimated $9,000 less per year in 2049 - a 10%
    decrease - compared to declining debt, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

    "To see this in an economy with low unemployment is truly stunning.
    There's never been anything like it," Jason Furman, former economic
    advisor to the Obama administration, said, according to the Post. "A
    good and strong economy, with no new emergency spending - and yet a
    deficit like this. The fact that it is so big in one year makes you
    think it must be some weird freakish thing going on."

    The Treasury Department did not immediately respond to the Daily Caller
    News Foundation's request for comment.

    Fuck, Joe Biden!

    ===============================================================================

    The Liberal Argument Outline

    1. Use spun facts:

    These can be found on Huffington Post, Daily Kos, MSNBC, and many other liberal sources. What they do is take facts, polls or arguments and add a liberal spin in a weak attempt to make bad news for liberals look good. These are easily debunked and exposed as lies by going to the original source and posting the hard, cold facts with NO spin.

    Note: At this point, you have won. It should never take more than one
    post to win an argument with a liberal. It is recommended that you claim victory and disengage at this point. If you continue, for fun or
    experimental purposes, no further logic will be forthcoming from the
    liberals.

    2. The Next Step For The Liberal Will Be To Attempt To Discredit Your
    Source

    If it is Fox or any perceived "right wing" source, they will refuse to
    believe it. If it is a non-partisan source, they will claim it is right
    wing, if it is a left of center source, they will find another lefty
    source to "prove" you are wrong. They will not discuss the facts
    themselves, as they know they have lost. If you must go down this road
    (there is a high entertainment value), don't allow this diversion. Go
    back to the facts.

    3. The Limbaugh Defense:

    This is one that comes out early and often. Although you know they never listen to Rush Limbaugh and have no idea what he says, they will drag him out and claim you are a Ditto head. This is another diversionary tactic. It has no relevance and is an attempt to change the subject. The more desperate they are, the more childish and ridiculous the reference to Limbaugh becomes: Flush, LimpBag, etc. Ignore this and re-post the facts. DO NOT BE DIVERTED.

    4. The Personal Attack:

    Another common thread. Also designed to divert the lost argument. NEVER give any hint of personal information. Even something as innocuous as "I am a chef".

    They will attempt to engage you and call you a liar to divert attention
    from the original lost argument. Ignore this and re-post the facts yet
    to be refuted.

    5. Name Calling:

    Still another diversion. If you fail to give them any personal information, they will attempt to draw you out to gain more insight into your personal side. Then they will return to step 4. Ignore this.

    6. The Liberal Bat Signal:

    When they find out they are unable to engage
    you, divert you or goad you into a completely irrelevant topic, they
    will send out the Bat Signal. This is where a bunch of Liberals (or
    often, the same one using several names, i.e., Rudy) post a number of
    rapid fire posts congratulating the Liberal on handing you your head on
    a platter. This tactic often works on even the most logical and
    disciplined of us. The urge to rant must be resisted. Your rant will
    supply them with all the personal insight they need to spew hatred and
    personal attacks. The best tactic here is to use the same tactic back at
    them.

    Keep in mind, a Liberal will never admit you have a valid point (Dutch
    did, once), much less that you won a debate. So, the only reasons to
    continue a dialog with a liberal after the initial statement of facts
    that established your victory are for entertainment and educational
    purposes. If you refuse to take the bait and demand the topic remain on
    the original premise, they will eventually just go away and try to find
    someone else that will engage them on their terms.

    Now, go away, Snowflake.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Sep 12 12:28:50 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2023-09-12 10:42, AlleyCat wrote:

    How cute...a "conservative" making believe he's concerned about deficits.

    How cute... a "liberal" making light of deficits, taxing and spending, by projecting towards a "conservative", as if that nullifies the deficit spending
    by Biden and the Democrats. (see signature)

    Insert "but, but, but Trummmmmp" below:

    Dude...

    ...the US federal deficit has been going down since Biden took office.

    These are facts you'll just have to face.

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Sep 13 07:24:40 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 12:28:50 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2023-09-12 10:42, AlleyCat wrote:

    How cute...a "conservative" making believe he's concerned about deficits. >>
    How cute... a "liberal" making light of deficits, taxing and spending, by
    projecting towards a "conservative", as if that nullifies the deficit spending
    by Biden and the Democrats. (see signature)

    Insert "but, but, but Trummmmmp" below:

    Dude...

    ...the US federal deficit has been going down since Biden took office.

    These are facts you'll just have to face.

    It dropped every year under Obama.

    Measured as a percentage of GDP, Clinton actually reduced it.

    Swill
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  • From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 13 12:01:14 2023
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    On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 07:24:40 -0400, Governor Swill says...

    Measured as a percentage of GDP, Clinton actually reduced it.


    Thank you, REPUBLICAN Congress.

    ===============================================================================

    The Liberal Argument Outline

    1. Use spun facts:

    These can be found on Huffington Post, Daily Kos, MSNBC, and many other liberal sources. What they do is take facts, polls or arguments and add a liberal spin in a weak attempt to make bad news for liberals look good. These are easily debunked and exposed as lies by going to the original source and posting the hard, cold facts with NO spin.

    Note: At this point, you have won. It should never take more than one
    post to win an argument with a liberal. It is recommended that you claim victory and disengage at this point. If you continue, for fun or
    experimental purposes, no further logic will be forthcoming from the
    liberals.

    2. The Next Step For The Liberal Will Be To Attempt To Discredit Your
    Source

    If it is Fox or any perceived "right wing" source, they will refuse to
    believe it. If it is a non-partisan source, they will claim it is right
    wing, if it is a left of center source, they will find another lefty
    source to "prove" you are wrong. They will not discuss the facts
    themselves, as they know they have lost. If you must go down this road
    (there is a high entertainment value), don't allow this diversion. Go
    back to the facts.

    3. The Limbaugh Defense:

    This is one that comes out early and often. Although you know they never listen to Rush Limbaugh and have no idea what he says, they will drag him out and claim you are a Ditto head. This is another diversionary tactic. It has no relevance and is an attempt to change the subject. The more desperate they are, the more childish and ridiculous the reference to Limbaugh becomes: Flush, LimpBag, etc. Ignore this and re-post the facts. DO NOT BE DIVERTED.

    4. The Personal Attack:

    Another common thread. Also designed to divert the lost argument. NEVER give any hint of personal information. Even something as innocuous as "I am a chef".

    They will attempt to engage you and call you a liar to divert attention
    from the original lost argument. Ignore this and re-post the facts yet
    to be refuted.

    5. Name Calling:

    Still another diversion. If you fail to give them any personal information, they will attempt to draw you out to gain more insight into your personal side. Then they will return to step 4. Ignore this.

    6. The Liberal Bat Signal:

    When they find out they are unable to engage
    you, divert you or goad you into a completely irrelevant topic, they
    will send out the Bat Signal. This is where a bunch of Liberals (or
    often, the same one using several names, i.e., Rudy) post a number of
    rapid fire posts congratulating the Liberal on handing you your head on
    a platter. This tactic often works on even the most logical and
    disciplined of us. The urge to rant must be resisted. Your rant will
    supply them with all the personal insight they need to spew hatred and
    personal attacks. The best tactic here is to use the same tactic back at
    them.

    Keep in mind, a Liberal will never admit you have a valid point (Dutch
    did, once), much less that you won a debate. So, the only reasons to
    continue a dialog with a liberal after the initial statement of facts
    that established your victory are for entertainment and educational
    purposes. If you refuse to take the bait and demand the topic remain on
    the original premise, they will eventually just go away and try to find
    someone else that will engage them on their terms.

    Now, go away, Snowflake.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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