Robert E. Lee was a stone-cold loser - Which is why he's worshiped by r
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Robert E. Lee was a stone-cold loser
No general in U.S. history was defeated as unequivocally and as totally as
Lee. For all his supposed strategic skill, his army was entirely
destroyed. One-quarter of those who served under him were killed, and an additional half were wounded or captured. He was a traitor to the United
States who killed more U.S. soldiers than any other enemy in the nation’s history, for the supremely evil cause of slavery. To boot, he was a cruel enslaver and a promoter of white supremacy until his death.
It is ridiculous that, in the year 2021, these simple truths are in
dispute. But here we are.
As the massive statue of Lee and his horse finally came down this week
from its pedestal in Richmond, former president Donald Trump, the
unquestioned leader of the Republican Party, penned an impassioned defense
of the Confederate commander. It was ugly in its embrace of the themes
that have powered white supremacists for generations. It was also fake
history.
“Robert E. Lee is considered by many Generals to be the greatest
strategist of them all,” Trump wrote. “President Lincoln wanted him to
command the North, in which case the war would have been over in one day. Robert E. Lee instead chose the other side because of his great love of Virginia, and except for Gettysburg, would have won the war. He should be remembered as perhaps the greatest unifying force after the war was over …
“If only we had Robert E. Lee to command our troops in Afghanistan, that disaster would have ended in a complete and total victory many years ago.
What an embarrassment we are suffering because we don’t have the genius of
a Robert E. Lee!”
Crews remove the statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee in Richmond on
Sept. 8. (Steve Helber/AP)
For a point-by-point grading of Trump’s history paper, I checked in with
Ty Seidule, a retired U.S. Army brigadier general and military historian
who is the former head of the U.S. Military Academy history department.
Now at Hamilton College, he’s the author of “Robert E. Lee and Me: A Southerner’s Reckoning With the Myth of the Lost Cause.”
Ty Seidule: What to rename the Army bases that honor Confederate soldiers
Greatest strategist of all? “Well, he’s a loser,” Seidule responded. “He
wasn’t just defeated; his army was destroyed. The idea that he’s the
greatest strategist of all is just ludicrous.”
War would have been over in a day? If it had, Seidule argued, then slavery
may have survived. Emancipation wasn’t U.S. policy until 1863. “So the
fact that Lee was able to keep the war going as long as it did helped add
to the eventual destruction of that which he fought for.”
Lee chose the Confederacy because of his great love of Virginia? Seidule
said Lee was one of eight U.S. Army colonels from Virginia at the time of secession in 1861. The other seven remained loyal to the United States —
as did Virginian Winfield Scott, the U.S. Army’s commander, and 80 percent
of all colonels from the South. “Lee’s the outlier,” Seidule said. That
may be because at that level of Army officers “no one benefited from
slavery more than he did.” Lee ran an enslaved-labor farm — a plantation —
from 1857 to 1860. He wasn’t even a resident of Virginia for most of his
prewar life; Alexandria, his hometown, was part of the District of
Columbia until 1847.
Would have won but for Gettysburg? The day after Gettysburg, Ulysses S.
Grant triumphed at Vicksburg, giving the U.S. Army control of the
Mississippi River and splitting the Confederacy. Lee’s army couldn’t
function without thousands of enslaved people working as servants or in factories and on farms, and after Vicksburg, Seidule said, “they lose all
that enslaved labor” as the U.S. Army pushed into the South.
Greatest unifying force after the war? Grant called Lee’s actions “forced acquiescence” that was “grudging and pernicious.” Though more conciliatory
than others, Lee testified to Congress in 1866 that Black residents
“cannot vote intelligently” and that “it would be better for Virginia if
she could get rid of them.” In 1868, Lee joined in issuing the White
Sulphur Springs manifesto, which argued that Black people had “neither the intelligence nor the qualifications … for political power.” Argued
Seidule: “His idea of reconciliation is only if the White South is given complete political control over Black people.”
Afghanistan would have been a total victory under the “genius” Lee? If the
U.S. military had suffered the same casualty rate in Afghanistan that
Lee’s army did, 200,000 American troops would have been killed, not the
actual 2,400. Some 400,000 would have been injured or captured instead of 20,000 injured.
Opinion by James Hohmann: The Jan. 6 insurrection shows why the Robert E.
Lee statue had to go
“No one has lost more completely in American history than Robert E. Lee,” Seidule said. “There is no general that has been more crushed, more
defeated, at the strategic, tactical, operational level. … How much genius
does it take to lose absolutely and completely?”
Neither Lee nor his statue deserves a pedestal.
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