• Florida GOP Now On The Warpath Against.....Bad Economic Triggers?

    From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 3 16:02:28 2023
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    On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 17:11:33 +0000, Lee says...

    Some central Florida lawmakers said
    they were considering "all legislative,
    legal and executive options available"

    Why is "all legislative, legal and executive options available", in quotation marks, but the rest below is not?

    to stop business owners in a small
    town from voluntarily displaying
    rainbow decals in their windows

    WHO said that? Where is the tape of someone SAYING that. Post the "letter", if that's what was written, verbatim, of course.

    indicating that they are a "safe
    place" for LGBTQ+ people who feel
    threatened.

    WHO said that, and why isn't, "for LGBTQ+ people who feel threatened" in quotation marks?

    Could it be, that someone ELSE said that, and as usual, you're taking things so fucking far out of context, that it's almost a total fabrication?

    Show us the letter, or video of someone in the GOP, saying ANY of that... THAT which is both in and out of quotation marks.

    Why'd you leave THIS out, liar? Seems to be about ECONOMICS, not anti-LGBQ shit. I left off "T" on purpose. Your Q's don't want them included. You KNOW that, right? ;-)

    Four Republican lawmakers wrote a letter to officials in Mount Dora two weeks ago warning that the new, optional city-sponsored program could put the central Florida community outside Orlando "in the crosshairs of potentially detrimental and absolutely unnecessary economic harm."

    THE LAWMAKERS CITED BOYCOTTS OF BUD LIGHT AND TARGET, which followed the brands' efforts to promote diversity and inclusion of the LGBTQ+ community.

    WHO wants an economic downturn, because YOU want to know where it's safe to suck down a Bud Light AND a dick in the bathrooms... whichever side you may use?

    "Let LGBTQ+ (people) exist and stop politicizing everything!" wrote Eskamani, whose district is in Orlando. "So much manufactured panic from the right. Meanwhile families can't even afford to live in Florida. Focus on that instead."

    If they ruin the economy, no... do NOT leave them exist, where they may have a detriment on the economy.

    The very "businesses" that have the stickers in their windows, MIGHT just be the first ones to feel the impact of an economic downturn BECAUSE of those stickers.

    What, EXACTLY, happens in places where there are no stickers? HOW, exactly, does a business owner know someone is LGBQ? Are they attacked by patrons?

    Tell us... exactly WHAT do these stickers accomplish? YOU would know right? So enlighten us, liberal.

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    White Liberals More Likely To Have A Mental Health Condition

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/22/white-liberals-more-likely- have-mental-health-cond/

    Apr 22, 2021 - Sixty-two percent of Whites who classify themselves as "very liberal" or "liberal" have been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition, as compared to 26% of conservatives and...

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    White Liberals More Likely to Have Mental Health Problems... - Newsmax

    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/white-liberals-mental-health- study/2021/04/20/id/1018293/

    The Pew Study, Which The Washington Free Beacon notes was published last year but only gained attention in a recent article, showed that white liberals of all ages were more likely to be diagnosed with a mental health condition than moderates or conservatives, with the disparity particularly pronounced among those aged 18-29, according to evie...

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    Study: Young White Liberals More Likely to Have Mental Health Problems

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/22/study-young-white-liberals- more-likely-to-have-mental-health-problems/

    Apr 22, 2021 - When sex and age were factors, 56.3 percent of white women between the ages of 18 and 29 and who labeled themselves as "liberal," said they had been given a mental health diagnosis, compared to 27.3 percent of conservatives in the same categories and 28.4 percent of moderates:

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    62% of "liberal" or very "liberal" whites have a mental health condition

    https://www.independentsentinel.com/62-of-liberal-or-very-liberal-whites-have- a-mental-health-condition/

    According to a Pew Research Center survey, 62% percent of Whites who classify themselves as "very liberal" or "liberal" has been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition. Only 26% of conservatives and 20% of moderates have been told they have such a condition, the study found.

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    Pew Study: White Liberals Disproportionately Suffer From Mental Illness...

    https://wibc.com/108211/pew-study-white-liberals-disproportionately-suffer- from-mental-illness/

    White women, ages 18-29, who identified as liberal were given a mental health diagnosis from medical professionals at a rate of 56.3%, as compared to 28.4% in moderates and 27.3% in conservatives. Zach Goldberg, a Ph.D. candidate in political science, consolidated the study's info in a set of visuals and posted them to a thread on Twitter.

    SCIENCE: White Libs More Likely To Have Mental Health Problems

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/white-libs-mental-health/

    Within this demographic, 34 percent of liberals reported having mental health problems, compared with 22 percent of moderates and 16 percent of conservatives. Zach Goldberg, the doctoral...

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    White Liberals Twice as Likely to be Diagnosed with Psychological Problems

    https://www.hennessysview.com/p/psychologic-disorders-white-liberals

    Nearly 1 in 2 (45.9%) of white liberals have been diagnosed with mental health disorders. White liberals of all ages are more than twice as likely as conservatives of any age to suffer from mental health disorders. White liberals are almost twice as likely as non-white liberals to be diagnosed with mental health problems.

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    6 Reasons Why Liberalism IS A Mental Disorder (LOL) - The Political Insider

    https://thepoliticalinsider.com/6-reasons-why-liberalism-can-be-considered-a- mental-disorder/

    In 2005, Michael Savage famously wrote a book titled, Liberalism is a Mental Disorder, the subject of which is self-explanatory. Additionally, Dr. Lyle Rossiter, a board-certified clinical psychologist, wrote a book in which he diagnosed the ideology of the left as a tangible mental illness.

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    Personality Traits, Mental Illness, and Ideology

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unique-everybody- else/202103/personality-traits-mental-illness-and-ideology

    specifically, surveys on the " big five " traits of extraversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness, neuroticism, and openness to experience have found that people identifying as politically...

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    Study claims over 50% of liberal women under 30 have mental health...

    https://theliberal.ie/study-claims-over-50-of-liberal-women-under-30-have- mental-health-issues-men-and-women-with-liberal-views-more-likely-to-be- mentally-unwell/

    Study claims over 50% of liberal women under 30 have mental health issues, men and women with liberal views more likely to be mentally unwell April 24, 2021 - 12:01 Gerard Clarke Irish News

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  • From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 3 19:11:08 2023
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    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:40:33 -0500, super70s says...

    Because that's how the four Florida lawmakers put it in their letter, dipshit.

    No proof, means it's a lie.

    Give us the EXACT quotes and/or dialogue or transcript, else it's just more made "out-of-context" bullshit.

    "... to ensure it never causes any financial harm."

    Thank you. You've been most help... PROVING MY POINT.

    So, no... they did not SAY or write all of the following: "'all legislative, legal and executive options available' TO STOP BUSINESS OWNERS IN A SMALL TOWN FROM VOLUNTARILY DISPLAYING RAINBOW DECALS IN THEIR WINDOWS INDICATING THAT THEY ARE A 'SAFE PLACE' FOR LGBTQ+ PEOPLE WHO FEEL THREATENED.

    The writer of the article said that. You don't seem to understand... I am NOT interested in what was said in the letter... I'm interested in what was NOT said, and "Some central Florida lawmakers said they were considering 'all legislative, legal and executive options available' to stop business owners in a small town from voluntarily displaying rainbow decals in their windows indicating that they are a 'safe place' for LGBTQ+ people who feel threatened", was NOT what was said in the letter, you gay fuck.

    Lee posts articles from far-left winger sites that take PARTIAL quotes and put words AROUND those quotes, to make it look as if what was written, is what was actually said, when it was not.

    So... "Some central Florida lawmakers" did NOT "say", like the write said. The writer said. Do you understand now, stupid.

    I COULD NOT care less, even if the lawmakers HAD said what the writers said they said, since i agree with them... it's the LYING and DISINGENUOUSNESS of these pansy-ass pussy soy-drinking writers, who make things seem far worse than they really are, by lying and obfuscating the truth.

    If you don't GET that, I'm not surprised, given your adolescent/juvenile-like thinking. Everything is so cut and dried and black and white with you idiot liberals.

    You believing the article, because they said something against Republicans, is all you fucking care about. You don't give a shit whether it's true or not, because your liberalism won't let you see the truth or the other side of an issue.

    If YOU want to keep believing in fake news, even when it bites yu on the ass and makes you look stupid... that's YOUR fucking liberal problem.

    I'll be here to straighten out your fucking lies... every time.

    Again... it wasn't the topic I was interested in... it's you liberals' bullshit lying and making shit up out of half-truths.

    But, thanks again for posting the letter... you helped me out tremendously, proving my point, and since I know I didn't NEED to read it, I never looked for it. I KNEW what was in it, so I had NO intention of looking it up, but thanks again.

    I can tell when you lying fucks are lying, by the way the articles are written. Quotes attributed to no one in particular... quotation marks on just a few words, meaning what was in the article was never said, in THAT context or verbatim.

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    Psychologists Identify Why Usenet Idiots Believe Fake News


    Thought processes and belief systems that people develop early in life to help protect against the anxiety and stress of an uncertain world may help explain why some individuals fall victim to what has come to be known as fake news, but psychologists can offer some strategies to defend against it, according to a series of presentations at the annual convention of the American Psychological Association.

    "At its core is the need for the brain to receive confirming information that harmonizes with an individual's existing views and beliefs," said Mark Whitmore, PhD, assistant professor of management and information systems at Kent State University's College of Business Administration. "In fact, one could say the brain is hardwired to accept, reject, misremember or distort information based on whether it is viewed as accepting of or threatening to existing beliefs."

    The key to people's accepting fake news as true, despite evidence to the contrary, is a phenomenon known as confirmation bias, or the tendency for people to seek and accept information that confirms their existing beliefs while rejecting or ignoring that which contradicts those beliefs, he said.

    Many of these beliefs and biases are formed early in life when children begin to distinguish between fantasy and reality, according to Eve Whitmore, PhD, a developmental psychologist with Western Reserve Psychological Associates in Stow, Ohio, who also presented at the session. Some of these beliefs can be based in fantasy, and that can lead to what she calls nonsensical thinking.

    "From the beginning, parents reinforce to their children the skill of pretending in order to cope with the realities inherent in culture and society," she said. "Children's learning about make-believe and mastery of it becomes the basis for more complex forms of self-deception and illusion into adulthood."

    Parents commonly encourage young children to engage in pretend play. Through this pretend play, children often practice little life scenarios, like playing house, that help to reinforce cultural norms and beliefs and aid in assimilation as they age. The flip side is that children also learn that sometimes it's OK to make believe things are true, even though they know they are not, according to Eve Whitmore.

    In adolescence, people develop critical thinking skills and some begin to question what they were taught as children, perhaps religious beliefs or even the belief that authority figures such as parents or even the government leaders are always right. But going against one's parents' beliefs can cause friction within the family, and, despite evidence to the contrary, some are willing to rationalize those false beliefs in order to avoid upsetting their parents, she said.

    It may begin as a conscious decision, but as rationalization piles on top of rationalization over the years, these processes can become unconscious. As people reach adulthood, many of these false beliefs and biases formed as children, instead of being given a good critical examination, are simply accepted and continue to influence how a person perceives his or her world, according to Mark Whitmore.

    "In this way, childhood beliefs persevere throughout a person's life and serve as a framework for processing information in adulthood," he said. "In attempting to confirm preconceived ideas, a person may resort to both fiction and reality in order to preserve these beliefs."

    The rise of the Internet and social media has only compounded the problem of fake news, according to Mark Whitmore, upending the traditional news model where an individual receives from a small number of outlets.

    "In today's media environment, the channels are multiple, and the messages are often simultaneous and contradictory," he said. "The receiver is often faced with paradoxical and seemingly absurd messages. It becomes easier to cling to a simple fiction than a complicated reality."

    Psychology offers a few evidence-based strategies for defending against the pull of fake news, according to Mark Whitmore. One key to avoiding the pull of confirmation bias is reducing the anxiety that makes it so appealing.

    "One positive defense strategy is humor. Watching late night comedy or political satire, while not actually altering or changing the source of the stressor, can help reduce the stress and anxiety associated with it," he said. "Another is sublimation, where you channel your negative feelings into something positive, such as running for office, marching in a protest or volunteering for a social cause."

    He also recommends that people cultivate an open mind by deliberately exposing themselves to different points of view. This can help them moderate their viewpoints and make them less extreme, he said.

    Critical thinking is also key. People must learn to question what they are told and this should begin in childhood, said Mark Whitmore.

    "Developing a greater degree of skepticism in children, by encouraging them to ask why and to question, diminishes confirmation bias," he said. "All of these strategies have substantial research supporting their beneficial effects."

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  • From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 3 19:48:21 2023
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    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:40:33 -0500, super70s says...

    Why is "all legislative, legal and executive options available", in quotation marks, but the rest below is not?

    to stop business owners in a small
    town from voluntarily displaying
    rainbow decals in their windows


    Because that's how the four Florida lawmakers put it in their letter, dipshit.

    Nope.

    https://imgur.com/5UJwLft.jpg
    https://imgur.com/plWxn1e.jpg
    https://imgur.com/bHuKUAJ.jpg

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    White Liberals More Likely To Have A Mental Health Condition

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/apr/22/white-liberals-more-likely- have-mental-health-cond/

    Apr 22, 2021 - Sixty-two percent of Whites who classify themselves as "very liberal" or "liberal" have been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition, as compared to 26% of conservatives and...

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    White Liberals More Likely to Have Mental Health Problems... - Newsmax

    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/white-liberals-mental-health- study/2021/04/20/id/1018293/

    The Pew Study, Which The Washington Free Beacon notes was published last year but only gained attention in a recent article, showed that white liberals of all ages were more likely to be diagnosed with a mental health condition than moderates or conservatives, with the disparity particularly pronounced among those aged 18-29, according to evie...

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    Study: Young White Liberals More Likely to Have Mental Health Problems

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/22/study-young-white-liberals- more-likely-to-have-mental-health-problems/

    Apr 22, 2021 - When sex and age were factors, 56.3 percent of white women between the ages of 18 and 29 and who labeled themselves as "liberal," said they had been given a mental health diagnosis, compared to 27.3 percent of conservatives in the same categories and 28.4 percent of moderates:

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    62% of "liberal" or very "liberal" whites have a mental health condition

    https://www.independentsentinel.com/62-of-liberal-or-very-liberal-whites-have- a-mental-health-condition/

    According to a Pew Research Center survey, 62% percent of Whites who classify themselves as "very liberal" or "liberal" has been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition. Only 26% of conservatives and 20% of moderates have been told they have such a condition, the study found.

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    Pew Study: White Liberals Disproportionately Suffer From Mental Illness...

    https://wibc.com/108211/pew-study-white-liberals-disproportionately-suffer- from-mental-illness/

    White women, ages 18-29, who identified as liberal were given a mental health diagnosis from medical professionals at a rate of 56.3%, as compared to 28.4% in moderates and 27.3% in conservatives. Zach Goldberg, a Ph.D. candidate in political science, consolidated the study's info in a set of visuals and posted them to a thread on Twitter.

    SCIENCE: White Libs More Likely To Have Mental Health Problems

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/white-libs-mental-health/

    Within this demographic, 34 percent of liberals reported having mental health problems, compared with 22 percent of moderates and 16 percent of conservatives. Zach Goldberg, the doctoral...

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    White Liberals Twice as Likely to be Diagnosed with Psychological Problems

    https://www.hennessysview.com/p/psychologic-disorders-white-liberals

    Nearly 1 in 2 (45.9%) of white liberals have been diagnosed with mental health disorders. White liberals of all ages are more than twice as likely as conservatives of any age to suffer from mental health disorders. White liberals are almost twice as likely as non-white liberals to be diagnosed with mental health problems.

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    6 Reasons Why Liberalism IS A Mental Disorder (LOL) - The Political Insider

    https://thepoliticalinsider.com/6-reasons-why-liberalism-can-be-considered-a- mental-disorder/

    In 2005, Michael Savage famously wrote a book titled, Liberalism is a Mental Disorder, the subject of which is self-explanatory. Additionally, Dr. Lyle Rossiter, a board-certified clinical psychologist, wrote a book in which he diagnosed the ideology of the left as a tangible mental illness.

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    Personality Traits, Mental Illness, and Ideology

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unique-everybody- else/202103/personality-traits-mental-illness-and-ideology

    specifically, surveys on the " big five " traits of extraversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness, neuroticism, and openness to experience have found that people identifying as politically...

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    Study claims over 50% of liberal women under 30 have mental health...

    https://theliberal.ie/study-claims-over-50-of-liberal-women-under-30-have- mental-health-issues-men-and-women-with-liberal-views-more-likely-to-be- mentally-unwell/

    Study claims over 50% of liberal women under 30 have mental health issues, men and women with liberal views more likely to be mentally unwell April 24, 2021 - 12:01 Gerard Clarke Irish News

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sun Sep 3 20:16:46 2023
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    On 2023-09-04 00:11:08 +0000, AlleyCat said:

    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:40:33 -0500, super70s says...

    Because that's how the four Florida lawmakers put it in their letter, dipshit.

    No proof, means it's a lie.

    Give us the EXACT quotes and/or dialogue or transcript, else it's just more made "out-of-context" bullshit.

    "... to ensure it never causes any financial harm."

    Thank you. You've been most help... PROVING MY POINT.

    I proved you were a raging dipshit with just a little Google searching.

    But everybody knows that anyway.

    So, no... they did not SAY or write all of the following: "'all legislative, legal and executive options available' TO STOP BUSINESS OWNERS IN A SMALL TOWN
    FROM VOLUNTARILY DISPLAYING RAINBOW DECALS IN THEIR WINDOWS INDICATING THAT THEY ARE A 'SAFE PLACE' FOR LGBTQ+ PEOPLE WHO FEEL THREATENED.

    The writer of the article said that. You don't seem to understand... I am NOT interested in what was said in the letter...

    Haven't you made a big enough jackass out of yourself in front of God
    and everybody in one 24 hr. period?

    I'm interested in what was NOT said,

    The letter DOESN'T say a lot of things, but it DOES say what you were
    so certain it didn't say in black and white.

    Argue until your face turns blue but you can't weasel your way out of this one.

    Dipshit.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Sep 4 10:10:36 2023
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    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 16:02:28 -0500, AlleyCat <al@aohell.com> wrote:


    On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 17:11:33 +0000, Lee says...

    Some central Florida lawmakers said
    they were considering "all legislative,
    legal and executive options available"

    Why is "all legislative, legal and executive options available", in quotation >marks, but the rest below is not?

    to stop business owners in a small
    town from voluntarily displaying
    rainbow decals in their windows

    WHO said that? Where is the tape of someone SAYING that. Post the "letter", if >that's what was written, verbatim, of course.


    You want Lying Lee to tell the truth? Good luck

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  • From Eunice Wunderlich@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Sep 4 10:22:31 2023
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    On 9/3/2023 2:02 PM, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 17:11:33 +0000, Lee says...

    Some central Florida lawmakers said
    they were considering "all legislative,
    legal and executive options available"

    Why is "all legislative, legal and executive options available", in quotation marks, but the rest below is not?

    to stop business owners in a small
    town from voluntarily displaying
    rainbow decals in their windows

    WHO said that?

    Dennis Baxley, Keith Truenow, Taylor Yarkosky and Stan McClain said it, you stupid lying zero-achieving cocksucker.

    Where is the tape of someone SAYING that. Post the "letter", if
    that's what was written, verbatim, of course.

    It's right here, you stupid lying zero-achieving cocksucker:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=859893805506618&set=a.418316702997666

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Sep 4 10:22:09 2023
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    On 9/3/2023 5:11 PM, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:40:33 -0500, super70s says...

    Because that's how the four Florida lawmakers put it in their letter, dipshit.

    No proof, means it's a lie.

    Proof, means you're a lying zero-achieving cocksucker.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=859893805506618&set=a.418316702997666

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Sep 4 13:33:06 2023
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    On 2023-09-03 20:11, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:40:33 -0500, super70s says...

    Because that's how the four Florida lawmakers put it in their letter, dipshit.

    No proof, means it's a lie.

    Give us the EXACT quotes and/or dialogue or transcript, else it's just more made "out-of-context" bullshit.

    Done.


    "... to ensure it never causes any financial harm."

    Thank you. You've been most help... PROVING MY POINT.

    The part of that sentence YOU left out:

    'permanently address this matter'

    'Our job as the leaders of this county is to "get it right" for ALL
    people in Lake County. That being said, please be assured that we are considering all legislative, legal and executive options available to us
    to quickly and permanently address this matter to ensure it never causes
    any financial harm to any business in this county.'

    Where "this matter" means the Safe Place Initiative.

    And more telling:

    'We simply won't stand for any policy that leads to divisive and unsafe conditions for the residents of our great county. This absolutely goes
    against all the Constitutional, BIBLICAL, Law and Order principles that
    this country was founded on and still continue to make this country
    great today, where deployed...

    How does it go against the US constitution for private businesses to
    indicate their willingness to help their fellow citizens?

    How does that go against "Law and Order"?

    Answer to both: it doesn't.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Sep 4 13:28:25 2023
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    On 2023-09-03 17:02, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 17:11:33 +0000, Lee says...

    Some central Florida lawmakers said
    they were considering "all legislative,
    legal and executive options available"

    Why is "all legislative, legal and executive options available", in quotation marks, but the rest below is not?

    Because the quoted portion is verbatim and the rest is paraphrased, you simpleton.


    to stop business owners in a small
    town from voluntarily displaying
    rainbow decals in their windows

    WHO said that? Where is the tape of someone SAYING that. Post the "letter", if
    that's what was written, verbatim, of course.

    Done:

    August 21, 2023
    City of Mount Dora
    510 N Baker Street
    Mount Dora, FL 32757

    It has come to our attention that action was taken by the Mount Dora
    City Council last week to create a "Safe Place" program specific to the
    LBGTQ+ community. Let us be clear by saying, this is extremely
    concerning to the folks in Lake County on many levels! Could you please
    tell us what specifically has transpired in the City of Mount Dora to
    lead to such action being needed by your council? Do we have specific
    reports and/or incidents happening on a regular basis? We are confident
    that the answer is no! In fact, we had to go back over 12 years to find
    reports in your area regarding any such bigotry, prejudice, or outright
    hate crimes being reported.

    We believe that you are putting the City of Mount Dora in the crosshairs
    of potentially detrimental, and absolutely unnecessary, economic harm.
    In light of what we have seen around this country in regards to the
    pushback and unprecedented financial harm to long standing American made companies such as Anheuser-Busch and Target Corporation, this local
    "Safe Place" program is negligent, irresponsible and divisive at best.
    You are picking winners and losers in your city with this program and alienating otherwise friendly businesses and residents from one another
    on the basis of their participation, or lack thereof, in this virtue
    signaling program. Furthermore, in regards to the outcome on public
    safety, we believe you are in fact creating a less safe environment in
    Mount Dora, contrary to the intentions you proclaim.

    We will be addressing this matter tomorrow at the Lake County Delegation meeting beginning at 9:00 AM in Leesburg at the Venetian Center. We respectfully ask you to attend and explain your actions here and the
    thinking behind it. We apologize for sending this letter on the eve of
    the meeting but this whole matter has emerged fairly quickly. Our job as
    the leaders of this county is to "get it right" for ALL people in Lake
    County. That being said, please be assured that we are considering all legislative, legal and executive options available to us to quickly and permanently address this matter to ensure it never causes any financial
    harm to any business in this county. We simply won't stand for any
    policy that leads to divisive and unsafe conditions for the residents of
    our great county This absolutely goes against all the Constitutional,
    Biblical, Law and Order principles that this country was founded
    on and still continue to make this country great today, where deployed...

    Thank you very much and may God Bless Lake County!

    Respectfully,

    The Lake County Legislative Delegation

    Senator Dennis Baxley, Chairman
    Representative Keith Truenow
    Representative Taylor Yarkosky
    Representative Stan McClain


    indicating that they are a "safe
    place" for LGBTQ+ people who feel
    threatened.

    WHO said that, and why isn't, "for LGBTQ+ people who feel threatened" in quotation marks?

    Because those asshats were referring to a particular program created by
    the city, and you can read about that program here:

    <https://ci.mount-dora.fl.us/1458/Safe-Place-Report-Anti-LGBTQHate-Crimes>


    Could it be, that someone ELSE said that, and as usual, you're taking things so
    fucking far out of context, that it's almost a total fabrication?

    Show us the letter, or video of someone in the GOP, saying ANY of that... THAT
    which is both in and out of quotation marks.

    Done.

    Tell us... exactly WHAT do these stickers accomplish? YOU would know right? So
    enlighten us, liberal.

    'The mission of the Safe Place Initiative is to provide the community
    with easily accessible safety information and safe places throughout the
    city they can turn to if they are the victims of an anti-LGBTQ+ or other
    hate crimes.'

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Sep 4 13:36:47 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2023-09-03 20:48, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:40:33 -0500, super70s says...

    Why is "all legislative, legal and executive options available", in
    quotation marks, but the rest below is not?

    to stop business owners in a small
    town from voluntarily displaying
    rainbow decals in their windows


    Because that's how the four Florida lawmakers put it in their letter, dipshit.

    Nope.

    Yup.

    'It has come to our attention that action was taken by the Mount Dora
    City Council last week to create a "Safe Place" program specific to the
    LBGTQ+ community.'


    https://imgur.com/5UJwLft.jpg
    https://imgur.com/plWxn1e.jpg
    https://imgur.com/bHuKUAJ.jpg

    Irrelevant.

    The letter states the name of the initiative to which they're opposed
    and the initiative is about voluntarily displaying a rainbow decal:

    'Through the Safe Place Initiative, the MDPD will provide decals to City facilities, local businesses and other organizations for those entities
    to post as a symbol of safety for the victims of an anti-LGBTQ+ or other
    hate crimes.

    Anyone who seeks solace in a Safe Place location can be assured that if
    they are the victim of a crime, police will promptly be called. '

    <https://ci.mount-dora.fl.us/1458/Safe-Place-Report-Anti-LGBTQHate-Crimes>

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  • From Greg Abbott@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 4 11:38:30 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 9/4/2023 10:36 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-03 20:48, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 17:40:33 -0500,  super70s says...

    Why is "all legislative, legal and executive options available", in
    quotation marks, but the rest below is not?

    to stop business owners in a small
    town from voluntarily displaying
    rainbow decals in their windows


    Because that's how the four Florida lawmakers put it in their letter, dipshit.

    Nope.

    Yup.

    'It has come to our attention that action was taken by the Mount Dora City Council last week to create a "Safe Place" program specific to the LBGTQ+ community.'


    https://imgur.com/5UJwLft.jpg
    https://imgur.com/plWxn1e.jpg
    https://imgur.com/bHuKUAJ.jpg

    Irrelevant.

    The mental defective AlleyPussyBitch, the narcissist, aka Neutered Pussy — *NOT*
    a three letter athlete, was *NEVER* a bouncer, *NEVER* a golf pro, *NEVER* a lifeguard, *NEVER* dunked a basketball, and has *NEVER* been laid, but just a pole-puffing no-fight squat-to-piss shrieking estrogen-oozing fairy — is being
    *completely* dishonest above. The letter that he found, and that I found, is an *image*. He tried to search for text in a fucking *image*, and of *course* the text wasn't found...because it's a fucking image that is not searchable. So big fucking deal that his search expressions weren't found.

    Does the mental defective AlleyPussyBitch, the narcissist, aka Neutered Pussy, really think we're going to fall for that shit?


    The letter states the name of the initiative to which they're opposed and the initiative is about voluntarily displaying a rainbow decal:

    'Through the Safe Place Initiative, the MDPD will provide decals to City facilities, local businesses and other organizations for those entities to post as a symbol of safety for the victims of an anti-LGBTQ+ or other hate crimes.

    Anyone who seeks solace in a Safe Place location can be assured that if they are the victim of a crime, police will promptly be called. '

    <https://ci.mount-dora.fl.us/1458/Safe-Place-Report-Anti-LGBTQHate-Crimes>

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Greg Abbott on Mon Sep 4 17:48:47 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 11:38:30 -0700, Greg Abbott <governor.wheelchair@texas.gov> wrote:

    https://imgur.com/5UJwLft.jpg
    https://imgur.com/plWxn1e.jpg
    https://imgur.com/bHuKUAJ.jpg

    Irrelevant.


    Does the mental defective AlleyPussyBitch, the narcissist, aka Neutered Pussy, >really think we're going to fall for that shit?

    If he does, he must be awfully stupid.

    Swill
    --
    It’s OK to not immediately know how a person identifies
    or who they are attracted to, and still be kind to them.
    It’s OK to accept someone as different,
    even if you don’t fully understand it.

    Except for Nazis.

    Dead Nazi slut - https://tinyurl.com/msjfres9
    Handsome young Nazi looking for slut - https://tinyurl.com/225cj6r9

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! FARTHER! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU . . .

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 4 17:54:16 2023
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 13:28:25 -0400, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2023-09-03 17:02, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 03 Sep 2023 17:11:33 +0000, Lee says...

    Some central Florida lawmakers said
    they were considering "all legislative,
    legal and executive options available"

    Why is "all legislative, legal and executive options available", in quotation
    marks, but the rest below is not?

    Because the quoted portion is verbatim and the rest is paraphrased, you >simpleton.


    to stop business owners in a small
    town from voluntarily displaying
    rainbow decals in their windows

    WHO said that? Where is the tape of someone SAYING that. Post the "letter", if
    that's what was written, verbatim, of course.

    Done:

    August 21, 2023
    City of Mount Dora
    510 N Baker Street
    Mount Dora, FL 32757

    It has come to our attention
    <snip>

    All that shit because some businesses want to display rainbows?

    Those people can't find any more serious civic issues than that to worry about.

    WHO said that, and why isn't, "for LGBTQ+ people who feel threatened" in
    quotation marks?

    Because those asshats were referring to a particular program created by
    the city, and you can read about that program here:

    <https://ci.mount-dora.fl.us/1458/Safe-Place-Report-Anti-LGBTQHate-Crimes>


    Could it be, that someone ELSE said that, and as usual, you're taking things so
    fucking far out of context, that it's almost a total fabrication?

    Show us the letter, or video of someone in the GOP, saying ANY of that... THAT
    which is both in and out of quotation marks.

    Done.

    Tell us... exactly WHAT do these stickers accomplish? YOU would know right? So
    enlighten us, liberal.

    'The mission of the Safe Place Initiative is to provide the community
    with easily accessible safety information and safe places throughout the
    city they can turn to if they are the victims of an anti-LGBTQ+ or other
    hate crimes.'

    Swill
    --
    It’s OK to not immediately know how a person identifies
    or who they are attracted to, and still be kind to them.
    It’s OK to accept someone as different,
    even if you don’t fully understand it.

    Except for Nazis.

    Dead Nazi slut - https://tinyurl.com/msjfres9
    Handsome young Nazi looking for slut - https://tinyurl.com/225cj6r9

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! FARTHER! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU . . .

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 4 20:17:56 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.liberalism, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics

    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 23:51:40 -0500, super70s says...

    Here it is for everyone again, since you refuse to admit you ran your
    mouth before you had the facts and made a big fool out of yourself:

    Post it as many times as you like... it still doesn't prove what was in Lee's original article wasn't bullshit MADE UP by the author of the article and NOT in the letter.

    The letter did NOT include 99% of what was in the article. They took snippets and surrounded it with THEIR take on what's going on.

    Original:

    Some central Florida lawmakers said they were considering "all legislative, legal and executive options available" to stop business owners in a small
    town from voluntarily displaying rainbow decals in their windows indicating that they are a "safe place" for LGBTQ+ people who feel threatened.

    250 characters, of which 48 were actual quotes from the letter. 99.808% was written by the authors of the article trying to make it seem as if those legislators wrote it themselves.

    They did not. Would you like me to continue? You won't like the results. The more characters, the higher number that were NOT written by these men.

    YOU proved my point by pointing me to the letter, which shows that the legislators NEVER said, "they were considering (how) to stop business owners in a small town from voluntarily displaying rainbow decals in their windows indicating that they are a "safe place" for LGBTQ+ people who feel
    threatened."

    THAT was what the author of the article put in and used or paraphrased one little snippet.

    You STILL don't get it. I wasn't arguing intent. I was merely pointing out that all of Lee's articles have authors that do this.

    In THIS case, the author made it seem they were homophobic, when in reality, they were looking out for the city's best interests, ECONOMICALLY, because they KNOW, that putting up those stickers are going to make people... GOOD people, think that the place is a "gay" district.

    I'm sorry you live in that gay world, where you feel slighted, picked one and isolated, but THAT'S what and how the majority of the WORLD'S people think and feel... this is NOT an American thing.

    Out of 8 billion people, YOU are the IMMENSE minority. Even you pets, the Muslims hate you and your ilk. How come you never complain about them? They want to KILL people like you, and you're fucking worried a few stickers MIGHT inconvenience gays, somehow?

    How?

    HOW are these stickers going to make your life sooooooo much better? Will you not go into a restaurant or bar that doesn't have a sticker?

    HETEROPHOBE!


    STILL can't understand why liberal Democrats are so in love with Muslims.

    Muslims are against abortion.

    Muslims are against contraception.

    Muslims are against pre-marital sex.

    Muslims are FOR killing homosexuals.

    Muslims are FOR treating women as slaves and chattel.

    Muslims are FOR their old men raping little boys.

    So, if Muslims hold these ideals, why do you Democrats LOVE Muslims, but hate Christians? See [1].

    Muslims HATE you.

    Am I leaving anything else out that you just LOVE about Muslims?

    [1] Oh yeah... Obama is a Muslim, so all is forgiven?

    http://i.imgur.com/uWvhO3t.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/khtGp9x.jpg

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Sep 5 02:07:20 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.liberalism, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics

    On 2023-09-04 21:17, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 3 Sep 2023 23:51:40 -0500, super70s says...

    Here it is for everyone again, since you refuse to admit you ran your
    mouth before you had the facts and made a big fool out of yourself:

    Post it as many times as you like... it still doesn't prove what was in Lee's original article wasn't bullshit MADE UP by the author of the article and NOT in the letter.

    The letter did NOT include 99% of what was in the article. They took snippets and surrounded it with THEIR take on what's going on.

    Original:

    Some central Florida lawmakers said they were considering "all legislative, legal and executive options available" to stop business owners in a small town from voluntarily displaying rainbow decals in their windows indicating that they are a "safe place" for LGBTQ+ people who feel threatened.

    250 characters, of which 48 were actual quotes from the letter. 99.808% was written by the authors of the article trying to make it seem as if those legislators wrote it themselves.

    And the rest of which are made accurate by the fact that the letter
    identifies the initiative they're trying to stop: the Safe Space initiative.

    An initiative to have businesses who are willing to voluntarily display
    such decals for the purpose stated in the paragraph.

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