• Re: Arisona

    From Anthony Soprano@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Wed Aug 16 22:03:23 2023
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    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Anthony Soprano on Wed Aug 16 22:31:40 2023
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    On 8/16/2023 10:03 PM, Anthony Soprano wrote:
    A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich.

    You don't know what that means, Trumpswab.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Anthony Soprano on Thu Aug 17 14:56:53 2023
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    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1 @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't know
    is strong. And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the indictments.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Thu Aug 17 11:13:02 2023
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    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:56:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1 >@mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't know >is strong. And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the >indictments.


    Unless it's nothing mor than a political ploy... like the
    impeachments

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Anthony Soprano on Thu Aug 17 12:32:04 2023
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    On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 22:03:23 -0700, Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:
    Indictment #5 coming up

    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.

    You know it isn't going to happen. Arizona doesn't have any pending investigations for
    it. Arizona being mentioned in the Georgia indictment shows the breadth and multi state
    nature of Trump's attempt to overturn the election. This aspect was needed in order to
    prosecute under RICO.

    <https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/is-a-donald-trump-indictment-likely-in-arizona>

    Georgia's RICO is quite broad and so difficult to prosecute. They must be really certain
    of their case to have chosen a RICO prosecution.

    Swill
    --
    Sometimes interviewing a politician is like that awkward moment
    when a zombie looking for brains walks right past you.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Thu Aug 17 12:16:03 2023
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    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:ublcfl$3qfcg$1@dont-email.me...
    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1 @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't know
    is strong.

    Bullshit. They will present anything if they think there is any chance, no matter how remote, they might get an indictment, particularly when
    politically motivated. Then given they are the only ones presenting a case.. it's pretty hard to judge whether the case had any real merits particularly
    if the jury is motivated to find fault.

    And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the
    indictments.

    Well, DUH...

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Thu Aug 17 22:04:39 2023
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    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote in news:r6esdidcu4m804u7g8ckkn871v0qgt9fla@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:56:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in
    news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1
    @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand
    jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't
    know
    is strong. And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the >>indictments.


    Unless it's nothing mor than a political ploy... like the
    impeachments


    Impeachments are political - only removal from office, and maybe not able
    to ever hold office again. but what's coming out now is Criminal -
    possible prison time.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 17 17:20:19 2023
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    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:13:02 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:56:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter ><bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1 >>@mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand jury >>> will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't know >>is strong. And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the >>indictments.


    Unless it's nothing mor than a political ploy... like the
    impeachments

    Clinton's impeachment was a political ploy? Who knew?

    Swill
    --
    Trump is a loser.

    In 2016, the GOP lost two Senate and six House seats.
    In 2018, the GOP lost 41 House seats and control.
    In 2020, the GOP lost the White House and the Senate.
    In 2022, the GOP lost another Senate seat and only gained back 9 House
    seats in a year of rampant inflation, exploding gas prices and record low popularity ratings for the opposition in the White House.
    And almost all of Trump's endorsees lost.
    2021-2022 They lost most of their Special Elections since Jan 06
    2023 They've lost every Special Election since Roe was overturned.
    Trump's favarable is 16 points less than his unfavorable.

    Do you still think Trump is anything but a loser?

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Baxter on Thu Aug 17 22:28:50 2023
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    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:ubm6hv$3u7d3$6@dont-email.me:

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:ublpi6$3shr3$1@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:ublcfl$3qfcg$1@dont-email.me...
    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in
    news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1 @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand
    jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she
    doesn't know is strong.

    Bullshit. They will present anything if they think there is any
    chance, no matter how remote, they might get an indictment,
    particularly when politically motivated. Then given they are the only
    ones presenting a case.. it's pretty hard to judge whether the case
    had any real merits particularly if the jury is motivated to find
    fault.

    And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the
    indictments.

    Well, DUH...



    Scut says that if he were sitting on a Grand Jury, he'd vote for
    ANYTHING the DA asked for as long as he got a ham sandwich for his
    vote.


    DA Mike Schmidt in Portland is getting a lot of flack because he's
    refusing to take cases to the GJ that don't have enough evidence to
    procecute.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Scout on Thu Aug 17 22:21:52 2023
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    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:ublpi6$3shr3$1@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:ublcfl$3qfcg$1@dont-email.me...
    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in
    news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1 @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand
    jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't
    know is strong.

    Bullshit. They will present anything if they think there is any
    chance, no matter how remote, they might get an indictment,
    particularly when politically motivated. Then given they are the only
    ones presenting a case.. it's pretty hard to judge whether the case
    had any real merits particularly if the jury is motivated to find
    fault.

    And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the
    indictments.

    Well, DUH...



    Scut says that if he were sitting on a Grand Jury, he'd vote for ANYTHING
    the DA asked for as long as he got a ham sandwich for his vote.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Aug 17 22:16:25 2023
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    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:uiisdihe9rm7482jp6tr3u11081brnsia0@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 22:03:23 -0700, Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:
    Indictment #5 coming up

    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand
    jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.

    You know it isn't going to happen. Arizona doesn't have any pending investigations for it. Arizona being mentioned in the Georgia
    indictment shows the breadth and multi state nature of Trump's attempt
    to overturn the election. This aspect was needed in order to
    prosecute under RICO.

    <https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/is-a-donald-trump-indictment-lik ely-in-arizona>

    Georgia's RICO is quite broad and so difficult to prosecute. They
    must be really certain of their case to have chosen a RICO
    prosecution.

    ==========
    Arizona AG investigating 2020 alleged fake electors tied to Trump

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-2020-election-alternate- electors-scheme-arizona-investigation/

    ===========
    TUCSON (KVOA) — Attorney General Kris Mayes confirms her office is investigating the fake elector scheme in Arizona after the 2020 Election.

    Mayes gave very few details on the case, saying her office usually
    doesn't provide updates on current investigations.

    Her comments come after it was revealed Arizona is mentioned five times
    in the indictment handed by a Georgia grand jury, accusing the former
    president and other defendants of trying to pressure the Arizona Speaker
    of the House.

    https://www.kvoa.com/townnews/crime/arizona-attorney-general-comments-on- trump-indictment/article_9c754c02-3cb4-11ee-970d-2fcf520ca997.html

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Harlan Banks@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 17 16:12:40 2023
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    On 8/17/2023 10:16 AM, scooter lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:ublcfl$3qfcg$1@dont-email.me...
    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1
    @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


     We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand jury >>> will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't know >> is strong.

    Bullshit. They will present anything if they think there is any chance, no matter how remote, they might get an indictment, particularly when politically
    motivated.

    The indictments against Trump are not politically motivated, scooter.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Thu Aug 17 22:35:38 2023
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    Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:56:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1
    @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand jury >>> will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't know >> is strong. And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the
    indictments.


    Unless it's nothing mor than a political ploy... like the
    impeachments


    Now that Don Thrumper has chickenned out presenting his
    irrefutable evidence, gosh I'm convinced.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.O / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Fri Aug 18 04:43:13 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 22:04:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:r6esdidcu4m804u7g8ckkn871v0qgt9fla@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:56:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in
    news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1
    @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand
    jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't
    know
    is strong. And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the >>>indictments.


    Unless it's nothing mor than a political ploy... like the
    impeachments


    Impeachments are political - only removal from office, and maybe not able
    to ever hold office again. but what's coming out now is Criminal -
    possible prison time.

    Don't hold your breath....

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Aug 18 07:11:14 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:ubm5hm$3u7d3$1@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote in news:r6esdidcu4m804u7g8ckkn871v0qgt9fla@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:56:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in
    news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1
    @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand
    jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't
    know
    is strong. And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the >>>indictments.


    Unless it's nothing mor than a political ploy... like the
    impeachments


    Impeachments are political - only removal from office, and maybe not able
    to ever hold office again. but what's coming out now is Criminal -
    possible prison time.

    Fine.. Is Hillary in Jail? Is Biden?

    Then why should we expect jail time for the same 'crimes' that has already
    been ignored when done by them?

    But then Liberals are great with their double standards, it's the only sort
    of standards they have.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Aug 18 07:14:22 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:ubm6hv$3u7d3$6@dont-email.me...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:ublpi6$3shr3$1@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:ublcfl$3qfcg$1@dont-email.me...
    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in
    news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1 @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand
    jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't
    know is strong.

    Bullshit. They will present anything if they think there is any
    chance, no matter how remote, they might get an indictment,
    particularly when politically motivated. Then given they are the only
    ones presenting a case.. it's pretty hard to judge whether the case
    had any real merits particularly if the jury is motivated to find
    fault.

    And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the
    indictments.

    Well, DUH...



    Scut says that if he were sitting on a Grand Jury, he'd vote for ANYTHING
    the DA asked for as long as he got a ham sandwich for his vote.

    Well considering that a grand jury only needs a super majority and grand
    juries are easy to convince a crime could have taken place.. my vote based
    on the lack of facts probably wouldn't matter.

    Hell, you've already admitted that you know Trump is guilty and even not
    even seen the evidence of lack there of.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri Aug 18 07:19:38 2023
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    Scout wrote:

    Fine.. Is Hillary in Jail? Is Biden?

    Then why should we expect jail time for the same 'crimes' that has
    already been ignored when done by them?

    They also attempted to overthrow the Constitution?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.O / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri Aug 18 15:14:30 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:ubnt17$9esi$1@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:ubm5hm$3u7d3$1@dont-email.me...

    Impeachments are political - only removal from office, and maybe not
    able to ever hold office again. but what's coming out now is
    Criminal - possible prison time.

    Fine.. Is Hillary in Jail? Is Biden?

    Then why should we expect jail time for the same 'crimes' that has
    already been ignored when done by them?

    And what crimes for those? tRump has been indicted 4 times on multiple charges. None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    tRump impeached twice. None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.


    But then Liberals are great with their double standards, it's the only
    sort of standards they have.

    Oh, spare us the bullshit!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Aug 18 11:22:35 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 22:16:25 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >news:uiisdihe9rm7482jp6tr3u11081brnsia0@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 22:03:23 -0700, Anthony Soprano
    <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:
    Indictment #5 coming up

    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand
    jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.

    You know it isn't going to happen. Arizona doesn't have any pending
    investigations for it. Arizona being mentioned in the Georgia
    indictment shows the breadth and multi state nature of Trump's attempt
    to overturn the election. This aspect was needed in order to
    prosecute under RICO.

    <https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/is-a-donald-trump-indictment-likely-in-arizona>

    Georgia's RICO is quite broad and so difficult to prosecute. They
    must be really certain of their case to have chosen a RICO
    prosecution.

    ==========
    Arizona AG investigating 2020 alleged fake electors tied to Trump

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-2020-election-alternate-electors-scheme-arizona-investigation/

    ===========
    TUCSON (KVOA) — Attorney General Kris Mayes confirms her office is >investigating the fake elector scheme in Arizona after the 2020 Election.

    Mayes gave very few details on the case, saying her office usually
    doesn't provide updates on current investigations.

    Her comments come after it was revealed Arizona is mentioned five times
    in the indictment handed by a Georgia grand jury, accusing the former >president and other defendants of trying to pressure the Arizona Speaker
    of the House.

    https://www.kvoa.com/townnews/crime/arizona-attorney-general-comments-on-trump-indictment/article_9c754c02-3cb4-11ee-970d-2fcf520ca997.html


    Well, it seems Arizona has changed its mind and will investigate Thrump™ after all!

    Swill
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 11:16:03 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 04:43:13 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 22:04:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter ><bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:r6esdidcu4m804u7g8ckkn871v0qgt9fla@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:56:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in
    news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1
    @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand
    jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't
    know
    is strong. And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the >>>>indictments.


    Unless it's nothing mor than a political ploy... like the
    impeachments


    Impeachments are political - only removal from office, and maybe not able >>to ever hold office again. but what's coming out now is Criminal - >>possible prison time.

    Don't hold your breath....

    I wish you would.

    Swill
    --
    Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Fri Aug 18 11:18:05 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 22:35:38 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:56:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1 >>> @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand jury >>>> will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't know >>> is strong. And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the
    indictments.


    Unless it's nothing mor than a political ploy... like the
    impeachments


    Now that Don Thrumper has chickenned out presenting his
    irrefutable evidence, gosh I'm convinced.

    He's not? When was this decision taken? I've been looking forward to finally finding out
    about how the election got rigged, what's really going on with global warming and how do
    you make Baked Alaska in Florida!

    Swill
    --
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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 08:38:07 2023
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    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And what crimes for those? tRump has been indicted 4 times on multiple >charges.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    tRump impeached twice.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    Baxter doesn't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri Aug 18 15:15:50 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:ubnt18$9esi$2@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:ubm6hv$3u7d3$6@dont-email.me...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:ublpi6$3shr3$1@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:ublcfl$3qfcg$1@dont-email.me...
    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in
    news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1 @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A
    grand jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she
    doesn't know is strong.

    Bullshit. They will present anything if they think there is any
    chance, no matter how remote, they might get an indictment,
    particularly when politically motivated. Then given they are the
    only ones presenting a case.. it's pretty hard to judge whether the
    case had any real merits particularly if the jury is motivated to
    find fault.

    And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the
    indictments.

    Well, DUH...



    Scut says that if he were sitting on a Grand Jury, he'd vote for
    ANYTHING the DA asked for as long as he got a ham sandwich for his
    vote.

    Well considering that a grand jury only needs a super majority and
    grand juries are easy to convince a crime could have taken place.. my
    vote based on the lack of facts probably wouldn't matter.

    Hell, you've already admitted that you know Trump is guilty and even
    not even seen the evidence of lack there of.



    And you're proclaiming Hillary and Joe Biden guilty without even any indictments against them.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 20:48:19 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in news:j14vditljk16at1te40lf9laehap6oodpn@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuckin g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And what crimes for those? tRump has been indicted 4 times on multiple >>charges.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    tRump impeached twice.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    Baxter doesn't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."


    Let's see - you want Hillary and Joe Biden locked up - but tRump is
    "innocent until proven guilty." And you'll accept NO proof of his guilt no matter how strong.

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 17:26:49 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 07:11:14 -0500, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message >news:ubm5hm$3u7d3$1@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:r6esdidcu4m804u7g8ckkn871v0qgt9fla@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:56:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in
    news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1
    @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand
    jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she doesn't
    know
    is strong. And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the >>>>indictments.


    Unless it's nothing mor than a political ploy... like the
    impeachments


    Impeachments are political - only removal from office, and maybe not able
    to ever hold office again. but what's coming out now is Criminal -
    possible prison time.

    Fine.. Is Hillary in Jail? Is Biden?

    Then why should we expect jail time for the same 'crimes' that has already >been ignored when done by them?

    So Trump has committed all the same crimes Hillary and Joe did but only Hillary and Joe
    deserve to be held responsible for their sins?

    But then Liberals are great with their double standards, it's the only sort >of standards they have.

    Conservatives have no standards at all. They'll lie about anything.

    Swill
    --
    Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit!

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri Aug 18 17:30:40 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 07:14:22 -0500, "Scout" wrote:

    Hell, you've already admitted that you know Trump is guilty and even not
    even seen the evidence of lack there of.

    I love it when you idiots get so flustered you forget how to write!

    Swill
    --
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to klaus.schadenfreude.ZwergentĂ·ter.@g on Fri Aug 18 17:32:46 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:38:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote:

    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And you're proclaiming Hillary and Joe Biden guilty without even any >>indictments against them.

    You're proclaiming Trump guilty with no convictions. What's the
    difference?

    The difference is four indictments (so far), 100 counts (so far), multiple civil suits,
    thousands of provable lies and his own repeated admissions of guilt on several of the
    charges already.

    Swill
    --
    Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit!

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Aug 18 17:34:33 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:22:35 -0400, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 22:16:25 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:uiisdihe9rm7482jp6tr3u11081brnsia0@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 22:03:23 -0700, Anthony Soprano
    <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:
    Indictment #5 coming up

    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A grand
    jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.

    You know it isn't going to happen. Arizona doesn't have any pending
    investigations for it. Arizona being mentioned in the Georgia
    indictment shows the breadth and multi state nature of Trump's attempt
    to overturn the election. This aspect was needed in order to
    prosecute under RICO.

    <https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/is-a-donald-trump-indictment-likely-in-arizona>

    Georgia's RICO is quite broad and so difficult to prosecute. They
    must be really certain of their case to have chosen a RICO
    prosecution.

    ==========
    Arizona AG investigating 2020 alleged fake electors tied to Trump
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-2020-election-alternate-electors-scheme-arizona-investigation/

    ===========
    TUCSON (KVOA) — Attorney General Kris Mayes confirms her office is >>investigating the fake elector scheme in Arizona after the 2020 Election.

    Mayes gave very few details on the case, saying her office usually
    doesn't provide updates on current investigations.

    Her comments come after it was revealed Arizona is mentioned five times
    in the indictment handed by a Georgia grand jury, accusing the former >>president and other defendants of trying to pressure the Arizona Speaker
    of the House.
    https://www.kvoa.com/townnews/crime/arizona-attorney-general-comments-on-trump-indictment/article_9c754c02-3cb4-11ee-970d-2fcf520ca997.html


    Well, it seems Arizona has changed its mind and will investigate Thrump™ after all!

    Hmm . . . I wonder if any other states are going to decide they've had enough of the
    asshole and investigate him too.

    Swill
    --
    Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit!

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 15:50:48 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote in >news:j14vditljk16at1te40lf9laehap6oodpn@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuckin >g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And what crimes for those? tRump has been indicted 4 times on multiple >>>charges.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    tRump impeached twice.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    Baxter doesn't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."


    Let's see - you want Hillary and Joe Biden locked up

    Cite

    - but tRump is "innocent until proven guilty."

    Correct.

    And you'll accept NO proof of his guilt no
    matter how strong.

    Cite.

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  • From Max Boot@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Aug 18 15:35:31 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 8/18/2023 1:48 PM, Baxter wrote:
    KKKlaun SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, lied:


    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And what crimes for those? tRump has been indicted 4 times on multiple
    charges.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    tRump impeached twice.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    Baxter doesn't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."

    That's purely a legal term of art. It means the legal system can't punish him until he has been convicted, i.e. found legally guilty. But we're concerned here with his *factual* guilt. We *know* Trump committed hundreds of felony crimes. We *know* that Trump undertook numerous actions to *steal* an undeserved second term in office, and we *know* that many of those actions constitute felony crimes. Trump is factually guilty. We know this.



    Let's see - you want Hillary and Joe Biden locked up - but tRump is
    "innocent until proven guilty." And you'll accept NO proof of his guilt no matter how strong.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 15:52:29 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
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    [Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza typed:

    On 8/18/2023 1:48 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Klaus, Rudy's master, typed


    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And what crimes for those? tRump has been indicted 4 times on multiple >>>> charges.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    tRump impeached twice.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    Baxter doesn't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."

    That's purely a legal term of art. It means the legal system can't punish him >until he has been convicted, i.e. found legally guilty. But we're concerned >here with his *factual* guilt.

    Poor "Cunt Flaps." He's already expressed his desire to send his
    political enemies to special camps-- or just kill them outright-- so
    we dismiss his opinions as that of a deranged dwarf.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 18 15:53:09 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    [Default] Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:38:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude ><klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote:

    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And you're proclaiming Hillary and Joe Biden guilty without even any >>>indictments against them.

    You're proclaiming Trump guilty with no convictions. What's the
    difference?

    The difference is four indictments (so far), 100 counts (so far), multiple civil suits,
    thousands of provable lies and his own repeated admissions of guilt on several of the
    charges already.

    How many convictions?

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Aug 19 02:25:36 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:psovdi1adh93qv2q1uvb1bkhh92amongag@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:22:35 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:


    Well, it seems Arizona has changed its mind and will investigate
    Thrump™ after all!

    Hmm . . . I wonder if any other states are going to decide they've had
    enough of the asshole and investigate him too.

    ============
    rizona Investigators 'Aggressively' Looking at Top Trump Ally Kelli Ward Source: Rolling Stone

    ARIZONA’S CRIMINAL PROBE into the 2020 fake electors plot is heating up
    and investigators are now asking plenty of questions about a key Donald
    Trump ally involved in it: former state GOP chair Kelli Ward.

    The Arizona probe has been accelerating in the past several weeks, two
    sources familiar with the matter tell Rolling Stone, with prosecutors
    gathering evidence and speaking with individuals with knowledge of how
    the fake electors scheme was carried out in the state. The fake electors
    plot was a core component of the then-president and his aligned lawyers’
    plans to overturn his 2020 election defeat and stop the legitimate
    transfer of power to his Democratic successor Joe Biden.

    The sources add that Ward — once one of the state’s most prominent
    Republicans — and her potential contacts and private activities following Election Day 2020 have been of particular interest to investigators as of
    late. One of these sources describes Arizona investigators as “moving aggressively” on this stage of the inquiry into the state’s pro-Trump
    fake electors, which included Ward, a Trump hardliner and then-chair of
    the Arizona Republican Party.

    Ward did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


    Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/kelli- ward-crosshairs-arizona-fake-electors-investigation-1234808925/

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Max Boot on Sat Aug 19 01:00:26 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 15:35:31 -0700, Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> wrote:

    That's purely a legal term of art. It means the legal system can't punish him >until he has been convicted, i.e. found legally guilty. But we're concerned >here with his *factual* guilt.

    I'm concerned with throwing in the first match.

    Swill
    --
    It wasn't rigged, he's just a loser.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Aug 21 07:39:25 2023
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:ubo1v6$a2uk$5@dont-email.me...
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    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:ublpi6$3shr3$1@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:ublcfl$3qfcg$1@dont-email.me...
    Anthony Soprano <Soprano@new_jersey.invalid> wrote in
    news:kk5o0rF8ktkU1 @mid.individual.net:

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 02:17:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Indictment #5 coming up


    We could convene a grand jury to indict you for something. A
    grand jury
    will indict a ham sandwich.


    That's bullshit.

    First, a DA isn't going to present a case to a GJ that he/she
    doesn't know is strong.

    Bullshit. They will present anything if they think there is any
    chance, no matter how remote, they might get an indictment,
    particularly when politically motivated. Then given they are the
    only ones presenting a case.. it's pretty hard to judge whether the
    case had any real merits particularly if the jury is motivated to
    find fault.

    And then the only cases that make it out of a GJ are the
    indictments.

    Well, DUH...



    Scut says that if he were sitting on a Grand Jury, he'd vote for
    ANYTHING the DA asked for as long as he got a ham sandwich for his
    vote.

    Well considering that a grand jury only needs a super majority and
    grand juries are easy to convince a crime could have taken place.. my
    vote based on the lack of facts probably wouldn't matter.

    Hell, you've already admitted that you know Trump is guilty and even
    not even seen the evidence of lack there of.



    And you're proclaiming Hillary and Joe Biden guilty without even any indictments against them.

    Yes... We know the facts in the matter and anyone even remotely aware of the handling and security of classified materials clearly know they are both
    just as guilty as Trump would be.

    So either they are ALL guilty, or none are..

    You can have one or the other but you can't pick and chose.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Aug 21 07:44:30 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:ubolej$d195$2@dont-email.me...
    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote
    in news:j14vditljk16at1te40lf9laehap6oodpn@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuckin g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And what crimes for those? tRump has been indicted 4 times on multiple >>>charges.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    tRump impeached twice.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    Baxter doesn't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."


    Let's see - you want Hillary and Joe Biden locked up

    Only if Trump is guilty, because if he is.. they are just as guilty.

    - but tRump is
    "innocent until proven guilty." And you'll accept NO proof of his guilt
    no
    matter how strong.

    No, I simply demand you apply the same standard as you would with Hillary
    and Joe.

    So either they all go to jail, or none do.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Aug 21 07:37:54 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:ubo1sl$a2uk$4@dont-email.me...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:ubnt17$9esi$1@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:ubm5hm$3u7d3$1@dont-email.me...

    Impeachments are political - only removal from office, and maybe not
    able to ever hold office again. but what's coming out now is
    Criminal - possible prison time.

    Fine.. Is Hillary in Jail? Is Biden?

    Then why should we expect jail time for the same 'crimes' that has
    already been ignored when done by them?

    And what crimes for those?

    If you are ignorant of her email server and how those classified documents
    were handled, then you have no business even speaking.


    tRump has been indicted 4 times on multiple
    charges. None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    And the very fact there was no such indictment, should clear Trump as his violation was even less than Hillary's and if she wasn't indicted there is
    no reason to hold Trump to a different standard

    Liberals without their double standards would have no standards at all.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 07:43:02 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote
    in message news:j14vditljk16at1te40lf9laehap6oodpn@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com...
    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And what crimes for those? tRump has been indicted 4 times on multiple >>charges.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    tRump impeached twice.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    Baxter doesn't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."

    More like guilty until proven innocent and even then they escaped justice on
    a technically.. such as being innocent...

    What is interesting is how he will excuse the actions of Hillary and Biden.. while at the same time complaining that Trump did the same thing.

    Personally I think they should all go to jail... but since Democrats already set the standard high profile government officials aren't to be held to the standards that apply to the rest of us.. then Trump is just as 'innocent' as Hillary and Joe.

    All or nothing.. you can't pick and chose who the law applies to.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Aug 21 18:14:45 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:uc02ln$1vh3k$5@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:ubo1sl$a2uk$4@dont-email.me...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:ubnt17$9esi$1@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:ubm5hm$3u7d3$1@dont-email.me...

    Impeachments are political - only removal from office, and maybe
    not able to ever hold office again. but what's coming out now is
    Criminal - possible prison time.

    Fine.. Is Hillary in Jail? Is Biden?

    Then why should we expect jail time for the same 'crimes' that has
    already been ignored when done by them?

    And what crimes for those?

    If you are ignorant of her email server and how those classified
    documents were handled, then you have no business even speaking.


    tRump has been indicted 4 times on multiple
    charges. None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    And the very fact there was no such indictment, should clear Trump as
    his violation was even less than Hillary's and if she wasn't indicted



    And why WASN'T Hillary indicted?

    Oh, right.




    Investigation into Hillary Clinton pushed
    by Trump comes up empty after two years
    JANUARY 10, 2020

    ADepartment of Justice investigation into
    former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
    pushed by President Donald Trump is winding
    down, finding nothing of consequence after
    two yearss.
    https://tinyurl.com/r9szewe

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Aug 21 18:16:03 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:uc02lp$1vh3k$7@dont-email.me:



    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
    wrote in message news:j14vditljk16at1te40lf9laehap6oodpn@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksu cking.dwarf.com...
    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And what crimes for those? tRump has been indicted 4 times on
    multiple charges.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    tRump impeached twice.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    Baxter doesn't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."

    More like guilty until proven innocent and even then they escaped
    justice on a technically.. such as being innocent...

    What is interesting is how he will excuse the actions of Hillary and
    Biden..


    What actions of Hillary?

    What actions of Biden?

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue Aug 22 00:09:22 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 18:16:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizon.net> wrote:

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >news:uc02lp$1vh3k$7@dont-email.me:



    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
    wrote in message
    news:j14vditljk16at1te40lf9laehap6oodpn@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksu
    cking.dwarf.com...
    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And what crimes for those? tRump has been indicted 4 times on
    multiple charges.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    tRump impeached twice.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    Baxter doesn't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."

    More like guilty until proven innocent and even then they escaped
    justice on a technically.. such as being innocent...

    What is interesting is how he will excuse the actions of Hillary and
    Biden..


    What actions of Hillary?

    30 years of investigation, usually with a GOP Congress and often with a GOP congress and a
    GOP President. No indictments, no charges, not even when Trump had her investigated.

    What actions of Biden?

    Nothing there either after nearly four years.

    Trump? Within two and a half years, 4 indictments totaling 91 counts and more likely on
    the way.

    Either Republican investigators were incompetent or Trump is guilty, Clinton and Biden not
    so much.

    Swill
    --
    "Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
    - Anthony Scaramucci

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU . . .

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 00:00:15 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 07:44:30 -0500, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message >news:ubolej$d195$2@dont-email.me...
    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote
    in
    news:j14vditljk16at1te40lf9laehap6oodpn@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuckin >> g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    And what crimes for those? tRump has been indicted 4 times on multiple >>>>charges.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    tRump impeached twice.

    No convictions.

    None for Hillary, none for Joe Biden.

    Baxter doesn't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."


    Let's see - you want Hillary and Joe Biden locked up

    Only if Trump is guilty, because if he is.. they are just as guilty.

    - but tRump is
    "innocent until proven guilty." And you'll accept NO proof of his guilt
    no
    matter how strong.

    No, I simply demand you apply the same standard as you would with Hillary
    and Joe.

    So either they all go to jail, or none do.



    So, you'll only send a crook to prison if you can send two innocent people too.

    Swill
    --
    "Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
    - Anthony Scaramucci

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU . . .

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 00:19:07 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 07:39:25 -0500, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:

    Yes... We know the facts in the matter and anyone even remotely aware of the >handling and security of classified materials clearly know they are both
    just as guilty as Trump would be.

    Then why did Trump's own investigation of her come up empty?

    Swill
    --
    "Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
    - Anthony Scaramucci

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU . . .

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 00:18:12 2023
    XPost: or.politics, ca.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 07:37:54 -0500, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    wrote:

    And the very fact there was no such indictment, should clear Trump as his >violation was even less than Hillary's

    *laughs and points*

    He sold nuclear secrets to Saudi Arabia and invasion secrets to Iran.

    Swill
    --
    "Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country."
    - Anthony Scaramucci

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU . . .

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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