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This is about a Gmail Account.
I access this from my Mint-powered computer and my Android 'phone.
On the cellphone there were three messages received from Quora at then of 2020.

I have not been able to delete them.
If I do they pop up again BUT only on the Xiaomi Android-powered cellphone. From webmail on the computer, I deleted every message both in or out.

No difference. They pop up again but only on the 'phone.
It needs fresh minds.
Hence this post.



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pinnerite wrote:

a Gmail Account.

a Gmail account has a number of ways of viewing its email. There's
webmail viewed w/ a device's browser. There's POP which pop can
function to download to the client and then delete what was downloaded
and there's pop which can function to download to the client and NOT
delete was what downloaded. And there's IMAP, or in this case 'gmail' imap.

Most people who want to use multiple clients for a gmail account either
do it w/ browser webmail or imap, but some like to do it w/ some pop
fandango.

We are missing some of the details of how you handle your gmail account
w/ your two devices.

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On 2021-11-02, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

Most people who want to use multiple clients for a gmail account
either do it w/ browser webmail or imap, but some like to do it w/
some pop fandango.

That would be POP3 over SSL:

https://www.andrews-corner.org/mutt.html

Technology of a more ordered time :)

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On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 15:50:54 -0700
Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

pinnerite wrote:

a Gmail Account.

a Gmail account has a number of ways of viewing its email. There's
webmail viewed w/ a device's browser. There's POP which pop can
function to download to the client and then delete what was downloaded
and there's pop which can function to download to the client and NOT
delete was what downloaded. And there's IMAP, or in this case 'gmail' imap.

Most people who want to use multiple clients for a gmail account either
do it w/ browser webmail or imap, but some like to do it w/ some pop fandango.

We are missing some of the details of how you handle your gmail account
w/ your two devices.

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Mike Easter

My gmail account is not a POP account it is an IMAP account.
What is puzzling is that this perpetual returning popup of the three emails only shows up on the Android 'phone.



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pinnerite wrote:

My gmail account is not a POP account it is an IMAP account.
What is puzzling is that this perpetual returning popup of the three emails only shows up on the Android 'phone.

If I'm understanding that the msg/s are deleted at the gmail server,
then I would assume that they are no longer accessible to the android.
It would seem that if you delete (previously IMAP dl/ed) the msg/s at
the android, it wouldn't be able to dl them again.

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On Wed, 03 Nov 2021 16:34:06 -0400, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

pinnerite wrote:

My gmail account is not a POP account it is an IMAP account.
What is puzzling is that this perpetual returning popup of the three emails only shows up on the Android 'phone.

If I'm understanding that the msg/s are deleted at the gmail server,
then I would assume that they are no longer accessible to the android.
It would seem that if you delete (previously IMAP dl/ed) the msg/s at
the android, it wouldn't be able to dl them again.

Is the android system showing msgs in the imap trash folder while the others are
not?

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 13:34:06 -0700
Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

pinnerite wrote:

My gmail account is not a POP account it is an IMAP account.
What is puzzling is that this perpetual returning popup of the three emails only shows up on the Android 'phone.

If I'm understanding that the msg/s are deleted at the gmail server,
then I would assume that they are no longer accessible to the android.
It would seem that if you delete (previously IMAP dl/ed) the msg/s at
the android, it wouldn't be able to dl them again.

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Logic would suggest that having deleted every file/message associated with the particular email address on the gmail webmail page for it would effectively extinguishing them from the gmail server.

The three messages have never reappeared on thunderbird on Linux Mint but refuse to die on the Xaiomi-Android cellphone.

I am wondering if Xaiomi's modifications may be responsible?




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pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> writes:

The three messages have never reappeared on thunderbird on Linux Mint
but refuse to die on the Xaiomi-Android cellphone.

I am wondering if Xaiomi's modifications may be responsible?

One wonders what it is that you use on the phone? The Gmail app? Or
something from Xiaomi? Something else? What?

What if you just wipe data in whatever app you're using on the Xiaomi
phone? May have to add your account again though. Or do that, remove
the Gmail account from the phone and re-add it?

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pinnerite wrote on 3/11/21 9:09 am:

This is about a Gmail Account.
I access this from my Mint-powered computer and my Android 'phone.
On the cellphone there were three messages received from Quora at then of 2020.

I have not been able to delete them.
If I do they pop up again BUT only on the Xiaomi Android-powered cellphone.
From webmail on the computer, I deleted every message both in or out.

No difference. They pop up again but only on the 'phone.
It needs fresh minds.
Hence this post.

When you type "They pop up again but only on the 'phone.", where are
they popping up?? In the 'inbox' or in the 'Trash'??

If they are in the 'Trash' on the phone, is there a 'Compact Folders'
function or similar??

(Just a thought ..... In my SeaMonkey Browser Suite, when I delete
e-mails from the Inbox, they are not really deleted, they are marked as
deleted and disappear from the 'Inbox' listing and appear listed under
the 'Trash' Folder ..... but aren't really deleted until I 'Empty Trash'
and then 'Compact Folders'.)
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 10:03:40 +0200
Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> wrote:

pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> writes:

The three messages have never reappeared on thunderbird on Linux Mint
but refuse to die on the Xaiomi-Android cellphone.

I am wondering if Xaiomi's modifications may be responsible?

One wonders what it is that you use on the phone? The Gmail app? Or
something from Xiaomi? Something else? What?

What if you just wipe data in whatever app you're using on the Xiaomi
phone? May have to add your account again though. Or do that, remove
the Gmail account from the phone and re-add it?

You are correct and indeed I have already tried all that as explained to Daniel earlier.

I had been using the Gmail app on the phone. Yesterday I tried another client but it fails the sign-in (?)


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On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 22:57:51 +1100
Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

pinnerite wrote on 3/11/21 9:09 am:

This is about a Gmail Account.
I access this from my Mint-powered computer and my Android 'phone.
On the cellphone there were three messages received from Quora at then of 2020.

I have not been able to delete them.
If I do they pop up again BUT only on the Xiaomi Android-powered cellphone.
From webmail on the computer, I deleted every message both in or out.

No difference. They pop up again but only on the 'phone.
It needs fresh minds.
Hence this post.

When you type "They pop up again but only on the 'phone.", where are
they popping up?? In the 'inbox' or in the 'Trash'??

The unbox

If they are in the 'Trash' on the phone, is there a 'Compact Folders' function or similar??

There is no Compact Folders on the phone. May not be necessary on solid state storage.

(Just a thought ..... In my SeaMonkey Browser Suite, when I delete
e-mails from the Inbox, they are not really deleted, they are marked as deleted and disappear from the 'Inbox' listing and appear listed under
the 'Trash' Folder ..... but aren't really deleted until I 'Empty Trash'
and then 'Compact Folders'.)

In order to try and pin this down, over the 11 months since this first began, I purged every vestige of files to and from this address and even deleted the client from the phone before restoring it sometime later after I had changed my password fro my
desktop.

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On Wed, 03 Nov 2021 17:31:52 -0400
"David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On Wed, 03 Nov 2021 16:34:06 -0400, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

pinnerite wrote:

My gmail account is not a POP account it is an IMAP account.
What is puzzling is that this perpetual returning popup of the three emails only shows up on the Android 'phone.

If I'm understanding that the msg/s are deleted at the gmail server,
then I would assume that they are no longer accessible to the android.
It would seem that if you delete (previously IMAP dl/ed) the msg/s at
the android, it wouldn't be able to dl them again.

Is the android system showing msgs in the imap trash folder while the others are
not?

Regards, Dave Hodgins

No. There are no messages in/out/trash.drafts or anything else indicated by the Gmail lis of folders and yet the three annoying messages are still on the inbox screen.

I have just instructed the app to move them to 'Trash'. When I checked the folder (all the folders) it was empty and the messages were back!

Regards, Alan

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