• Copy and Paste

    From philo@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 3 21:05:43 2021
    Ubuntu 20.04.

    I can not use the context menu to paste a copied file to my
    desktop...but I CAN paste it to my Desktop folder.

    What the heck is going on?


    Using both Nemo and Nautilus file managers.


    I can drag and drop to my desktop with no problem but the inability to
    use the context menu seems absurd.

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  • From Jonathan N. Little@21:1/5 to philo on Sun Oct 3 22:28:14 2021
    philo wrote:
    Ubuntu 20.04.

    I can not use the context menu to paste a copied file to my
    desktop...but I CAN paste it to my Desktop folder.

    What the heck is going on?


    Using both Nemo and Nautilus file managers.


    I can drag and drop to my desktop with no problem but the inability to
    use the context menu seems absurd.

    20.04 uses Nautilus by default and Nautilus devs seem to "hate" anything
    on Desktop. If you replace Nautilus desktop with Nemo Desktop You can
    restore our familiar "Desktop". With Nemo Desktop you can open Nemo >
    Edit >Preferences > Context Menus > [add options galore!]

    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to Jonathan N. Little on Mon Oct 4 05:39:23 2021
    On 10/3/21 9:28 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    philo wrote:
    Ubuntu 20.04.

    I can not use the context menu to paste a copied file to my
    desktop...but I CAN paste it to my Desktop folder.

    What the heck is going on?


    Using both Nemo and Nautilus file managers.


    I can drag and drop to my desktop with no problem but the inability to
    use the context menu seems absurd.

    20.04 uses Nautilus by default and Nautilus devs seem to "hate" anything
    on Desktop. If you replace Nautilus desktop with Nemo Desktop You can
    restore our familiar "Desktop". With Nemo Desktop you can open Nemo >
    Edit >Preferences > Context Menus > [add options galore!]




    Thank you for the quick and easy reply.

    Since I already have the file managers "Caja" and "Files" installed, it
    was as simple as just uninstalling "Nautilus."

    Now I'm all set

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to philo on Mon Oct 4 06:01:16 2021
    On 10/4/21 5:39 AM, philo wrote:
    On 10/3/21 9:28 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    philo wrote:
    Ubuntu 20.04.

    I can not use the context menu to paste a copied file to my
    desktop...but I CAN paste it to my Desktop folder.

    What the heck is going on?


    Using both Nemo and Nautilus file managers.


    I can drag and drop to my desktop with no problem but the inability to
    use the context menu seems absurd.

    20.04 uses Nautilus by default and Nautilus devs seem to "hate" anything
    on Desktop. If you replace Nautilus desktop with Nemo Desktop You can
    restore our familiar "Desktop". With Nemo Desktop you can open Nemo >
    Edit >Preferences > Context Menus > [add options galore!]




    Thank you for the quick and easy reply.

    Since I already have the file managers "Caja" and "Files" installed, it
    was as simple as just uninstalling "Nautilus."

    Now I'm all set





    Meant to say I have Caja and Thunar installed.

    BTW: If i access Caja through the "Home" icon on my desktop, I can paste
    to my desktop.

    If I access Caja through the launcher on my panel, I cannot paste to
    desktop.

    I think I will just take the launcher off the panel.

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  • From Jonathan N. Little@21:1/5 to philo on Mon Oct 4 08:04:01 2021
    philo wrote:


    Meant to say I have Caja and Thunar installed.

    BTW: If i access Caja through the "Home" icon on my desktop, I can paste
    to my desktop.

    If I access Caja through the launcher on my panel, I cannot paste to
    desktop.

    I think I will just take the launcher off the panel.



    I've not use Caja, happy with Nemo. Just really don't understand the
    GNOME folks hatred of the Desktop concept which has such a long history
    in computing since the development in GUIs. Yes, feature creep can bloat
    a application but removing a core functionality....


    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to Jonathan N. Little on Mon Oct 4 07:50:54 2021
    On 10/4/21 7:04 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    philo wrote:


    Meant to say I have Caja and Thunar installed.

    BTW: If i access Caja through the "Home" icon on my desktop, I can paste
    to my desktop.

    If I access Caja through the launcher on my panel, I cannot paste to
    desktop.

    I think I will just take the launcher off the panel.



    I've not use Caja, happy with Nemo. Just really don't understand the
    GNOME folks hatred of the Desktop concept which has such a long history
    in computing since the development in GUIs. Yes, feature creep can bloat
    a application but removing a core functionality....





    Well, I've been evaluating Win11 and I think Linux has a long ways to go
    before they screw things up /that/ badly.


    All was seemingly going well until I attached a drive that I wanted to
    recover data from.

    The system hung with the rotating circle so I tried a few more times
    before I realized...without any annunciation it was running CHKDSK /F .

    I returned an hour later and was locked out of my system!!!


    The message said that I had either tried logging in or restarting too
    many times and I needed to leave the machine on for two hours...then try
    again.

    No, one minor Linux "feature" that I did not like is not a major
    disturbance even though I think it's a silly "bug."

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  • From Jonathan N. Little@21:1/5 to philo on Mon Oct 4 15:40:41 2021
    philo wrote:
    On 10/4/21 7:04 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    philo wrote:


    Meant to say I have Caja and Thunar installed.

    BTW: If i access Caja through the "Home" icon on my desktop, I can paste >>> to my desktop.

    If I access Caja through the launcher on my panel, I cannot paste to
    desktop.

    I think I will just take the launcher off the panel.



    I've not use Caja, happy with Nemo. Just really don't understand the
    GNOME folks hatred of the Desktop concept which has such a long history
    in computing since the development in GUIs. Yes, feature creep can bloat
    a application but removing a core functionality....





    Well, I've been evaluating Win11 and I think Linux has a long ways to go before they screw things up /that/ badly.

    Motherboard has TPM 2.0 socket would need to get module
    Drive MBR but could convert to GPT
    CPU on 3rd gen Intel [buzzer]
    Motherboard retail MSI with no "Secure" Boot [buzzer]

    In no rush to upgrade so not on my radar.




    All was seemingly going well until I attached a drive that I wanted to recover data from.

    The system hung with the rotating circle so I tried a few more times
    before I realized...without any annunciation it was running CHKDSK /F .

    I returned an hour later and was locked out of my system!!!


    The message said that I had either tried logging in or restarting too
    many times and I needed to leave the machine on for two hours...then try again.

    Part of MS "nanny-state OS" feature. Dump the MS Account login and use
    Local Account.


    No, one minor Linux "feature" that I did not like is not a major
    disturbance even though I think it's a silly "bug."

    IF only CorelDraw didn't abandon Linux support. Still waiting for
    Inkscape to implement a layer manager as good as CD and this system will
    be converted too.

    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to Jonathan N. Little on Mon Oct 4 15:39:22 2021
    On 10/4/21 2:40 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    philo wrote:
    On 10/4/21 7:04 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    philo wrote:


    Meant to say I have Caja and Thunar installed.

    BTW: If i access Caja through the "Home" icon on my desktop, I can paste >>>> to my desktop.

    If I access Caja through the launcher on my panel, I cannot paste to
    desktop.

    I think I will just take the launcher off the panel.



    I've not use Caja, happy with Nemo. Just really don't understand the
    GNOME folks hatred of the Desktop concept which has such a long history
    in computing since the development in GUIs. Yes, feature creep can bloat >>> a application but removing a core functionality....





    Well, I've been evaluating Win11 and I think Linux has a long ways to go
    before they screw things up /that/ badly.

    Motherboard has TPM 2.0 socket would need to get module
    Drive MBR but could convert to GPT
    CPU on 3rd gen Intel [buzzer]
    Motherboard retail MSI with no "Secure" Boot [buzzer]

    In no rush to upgrade so not on my radar.




    All was seemingly going well until I attached a drive that I wanted to
    recover data from.

    The system hung with the rotating circle so I tried a few more times
    before I realized...without any annunciation it was running CHKDSK /F .

    I returned an hour later and was locked out of my system!!!


    The message said that I had either tried logging in or restarting too
    many times and I needed to leave the machine on for two hours...then try
    again.

    Part of MS "nanny-state OS" feature. Dump the MS Account login and use
    Local Account.


    No, one minor Linux "feature" that I did not like is not a major
    disturbance even though I think it's a silly "bug."

    IF only CorelDraw didn't abandon Linux support. Still waiting for
    Inkscape to implement a layer manager as good as CD and this system will
    be converted too.




    The machine I'm testing Win11 on only has a Gen7 CPU but has everything
    else.

    I can run Win11 on it but it's not officially supported.

    I am not going to get new H/W just so I can run Win11.



    The ten year old+ machines I run Linux on runs it well. One is a quad
    care 3ghz CPU with 16 gigs of RAM but Win11 won't run on it.

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  • From Mike Easter@21:1/5 to Jonathan N. Little on Mon Oct 4 17:10:26 2021
    Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Just really don't understand the
    GNOME folks hatred of the Desktop concept which has such a long history
    in computing since the development in GUIs. Yes, feature creep can bloat
    a application but removing a core functionality....

    Gnome; my least favorite DE, which puts me at odds w/ all of those
    important distro/s for which it is the flagship; but in good company w/
    Linux Mint, which doesn't favor Gnome or its Gnome Shell at all.

    Besides several DEs I favor over Gnome, I also would rather use such as
    a WM like OpenBox, even if I have to use some command line tools to make
    up for minor inconveniences of such as timedatectl for adjusting the tz
    and xkbset for sticky keys.

    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From philo@21:1/5 to Mike Easter on Sat Oct 9 08:49:46 2021
    On 10/4/21 7:10 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
    Jonathan N. Little wrote:
      Just really don't understand the
    GNOME folks hatred of the Desktop concept which has such a long history
    in computing since the development in GUIs. Yes, feature creep can bloat
    a application but removing a core functionality....

    Gnome; my least favorite DE, which puts me at odds w/ all of those
    important distro/s for which it is the flagship; but in good company w/
    Linux Mint, which doesn't favor Gnome or its Gnome Shell at all.

    Besides several DEs I favor over Gnome, I also would rather use such as
    a WM like OpenBox, even if I have to use some command line tools to make
    up for minor inconveniences of such as timedatectl for adjusting the tz
    and xkbset for sticky keys.



    Well. at least it was fixable.


    OT: With Win11, I need to get a 3rd party utility (Winero) to fix things

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