• Strange icon suddenly appeared

    From Mike Easter@21:1/5 to Michael F. Stemper on Mon Aug 16 09:49:47 2021
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    Earlier today, I logged in to one of my computers and found an icon
    on all workspaces that wasn't there before. It has the text
    "Filesystem root" associated with it, and a picture that looks
    vaguely like a HDD.

    I think it is just a shortcut to the filesystem. You can R click the
    icon and find out about its properties.

    Does anybody have any idea why it would appear overnight or what its
    purpose is? I looked in $HOME/Desktop, and there's nothing there.

    Not every icon on your desktop shows in that view.

    I haven't deleted it because I have no idea whether doing so would
    just delete the icon, or whether it would delete the root
    filesystem.

    Ubuntu 18.04 LTS with the default UI.

    This arch forum discussion of 2017 doesn't answer the qx of why it
    appeared, but it is informative anyway.

    https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=222507

    however, after restarting the system, a directory named "Filesystem
    root" has appeared in the desktop of the GUI




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    Mike Easter

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  • From Michael F. Stemper@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 16 11:33:55 2021
    Earlier today, I logged in to one of my computers and found an
    icon on all workspaces that wasn't there before. It has the text
    "Filesystem root" associated with it, and a picture that looks
    vaguely like a HDD.

    Does anybody have any idea why it would appear overnight or what
    its purpose is? I looked in $HOME/Desktop, and there's nothing
    there.

    I haven't deleted it because I have no idea whether doing so
    would just delete the icon, or whether it would delete the
    root filesystem.

    Ubuntu 18.04 LTS with the default UI.
    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    Isaiah 10:1-2

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  • From Aragorn@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 16 18:55:19 2021
    On 16.08.2021 at 11:33, Michael F. Stemper scribbled:

    I haven't deleted it because I have no idea whether doing so
    would just delete the icon, or whether it would delete the
    root filesystem.

    An unprivileged user does not have the power to delete the root
    filesystem.

    --
    With respect,
    = Aragorn =

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  • From Michael F. Stemper@21:1/5 to Mike Easter on Mon Aug 16 13:13:08 2021
    On 16/08/2021 11.49, Mike Easter wrote:
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    Earlier today, I logged in to one of my computers and found an icon
    on all workspaces that wasn't there before. It has the text
    "Filesystem root" associated with it, and a picture that looks vaguely
    like a HDD.

    I think it is just a shortcut to the filesystem.  You can R click the
    icon and find out about its properties.

    <rant>
    Boy, whoever designed that thing ought to be taken out and shot!

    The "Properties" window got splashed over not just the workspace
    where I opened it, but all workspaces. It prevented me from
    right-clicking on the background to open an Xterm, not just for
    the several minutes it took to run, but until I finally closed it.
    </rant>

    The "Basic" tab reveals:
    Name: Filesystem root
    Type: Folder (inode/directory)
    Contents xxx,xxx items, totalling yy.y GB
    (some contents unreadable)
    Volume: unknown

    Then, some stuff about disk usage, culminating with
    Filesystem type: ext3/ext4

    The "Permissions" tab tells me that
    The permissions of "/" could not be determined.

    Unfortunately, there isn't a tab labelled "Origin" or anything
    even close to it.

    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    If you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much
    more like prunes than rhubarb does.

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  • From Mike Easter@21:1/5 to Mike Easter on Mon Aug 16 10:41:08 2021
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    Earlier today, I logged in to one of my computers and found an icon
    on all workspaces that wasn't there before. It has the text
    "Filesystem root" associated with it, and a picture that looks vaguely
    like a HDD.

    I think it is just a shortcut to the filesystem.  You can R click the
    icon and find out about its properties.

    I read an article about how to create shortcuts (particularly
    graphically) to such as directories and tried to figure out if one could
    do that accidentally.

    This happens to be 20.04 instead of 18.04.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/1232612/how-to-make-a-desktop-shortcuts-on-ubuntu-20-04
    How to make a desktop shortcuts on Ubuntu 20.04?

    I also saw a separate article on Gnome Tweaks, but I don't know if you
    have that installed.

    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Michael F. Stemper@21:1/5 to Aragorn on Mon Aug 16 13:14:52 2021
    On 16/08/2021 11.55, Aragorn wrote:
    On 16.08.2021 at 11:33, Michael F. Stemper scribbled:

    I haven't deleted it because I have no idea whether doing so
    would just delete the icon, or whether it would delete the
    root filesystem.

    An unprivileged user does not have the power to delete the root
    filesystem.

    Yeah, I guess that it'd have to ask me for my password to sudo that
    action, wouldn't it? I'll think about this overnight, so that I can
    convince myself.

    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him talk like Mr. Ed
    by rubbing peanut butter on his gums.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Michael F. Stemper on Mon Aug 16 15:03:31 2021
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 11.49, Mike Easter wrote:
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    Earlier today, I logged in to one of my computers and found an icon
    on all workspaces that wasn't there before. It has the text
    "Filesystem root" associated with it, and a picture that looks
    vaguely like a HDD.

    I think it is just a shortcut to the filesystem. You can R click the
    icon and find out about its properties.

    <rant>
    Boy, whoever designed that thing ought to be taken out and shot!

    The "Properties" window got splashed over not just the workspace
    where I opened it, but all workspaces. It prevented me from
    right-clicking on the background to open an Xterm, not just for
    the several minutes it took to run, but until I finally closed it.
    </rant>

    The "Basic" tab reveals:
    Name: Filesystem root
    Type: Folder (inode/directory)
    Contents xxx,xxx items, totalling yy.y GB
    (some contents unreadable)
    Volume: unknown

    Then, some stuff about disk usage, culminating with
    Filesystem type: ext3/ext4

    The "Permissions" tab tells me that
    The permissions of "/" could not be determined.

    Unfortunately, there isn't a tab labelled "Origin" or anything
    even close to it.


    It could be like the picture here.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/1260097/why-do-i-have-filesystem-root-logo-in-desktop-after-instalation-of-ubuntu-18-0

    https://i.stack.imgur.com/39uy6.png

    Paul

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  • From Michael F. Stemper@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Aug 16 14:27:15 2021
    On 16/08/2021 14.03, Paul wrote:
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 11.49, Mike Easter wrote:
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    Earlier today, I logged in to one of my computers and found an icon
    on all workspaces that wasn't there before. It has the text
    "Filesystem root" associated with it, and a picture that looks
    vaguely like a HDD.


    It could be like the picture here.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/1260097/why-do-i-have-filesystem-root-logo-in-desktop-after-instalation-of-ubuntu-18-0


        https://i.stack.imgur.com/39uy6.png

    Yup, that is exactly what it looks like.


    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    Galatians 3:28

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  • From Mike Easter@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Aug 16 12:24:20 2021
    Paul wrote:
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 11.49, Mike Easter wrote:
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    Earlier today, I logged in to one of my computers and found an icon
    on all workspaces that wasn't there before. It has the text
    "Filesystem root" associated with it, and a picture that looks
    vaguely like a HDD.

    I think it is just a shortcut to the filesystem.  You can R click the
    icon and find out about its properties.

    The "Basic" tab reveals:
     Name:        Filesystem root
     Type:        Folder (inode/directory)
     Contents    xxx,xxx items, totalling yy.y GB
            (some contents unreadable)
     Volume:    unknown

    Then, some stuff about disk usage, culminating with
    Filesystem type: ext3/ext4

    The "Permissions" tab tells me that
     The permissions of "/" could not be determined.

    Unfortunately, there isn't a tab labelled "Origin" or anything
    even close to it.


    It could be like the picture here.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/1260097/why-do-i-have-filesystem-root-logo-in-desktop-after-instalation-of-ubuntu-18-0

    Yeah; I saw that screenshot, but no one answered his qx :-)

    I dl/ed, hashchecked, authenticated, an UbGn 18.04.5 and wrote it to a multiboot Yumi stick and booted it to see if I could figure out a route
    to that icon that would be accidental.

    I was surprised to see that the default Nautilus does NOT show the root filesystem! If I use its Other locations function and open the Computer
    icon, then I'm in the root dir.

    So, a 'filesystem root' shortcut would be a useful addition to the
    desktop, to save a step if one wanted to navigate graphically to the
    various root filesystem dir/s. I do that all the time, but I generally
    use the access to the filesystem in Cinnamon DE Nemo L pane.

    I don't know why Gnome would want to default 'hide' easy access to the filesystem in Nautilus; that seems strange to me.

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    Mike Easter

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  • From Michael F. Stemper@21:1/5 to Mike Easter on Mon Aug 16 14:36:08 2021
    On 16/08/2021 14.24, Mike Easter wrote:
    Paul wrote:
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 11.49, Mike Easter wrote:
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    Earlier today, I logged in to one of my computers and found an icon
    on all workspaces that wasn't there before. It has the text
    "Filesystem root" associated with it, and a picture that looks
    vaguely like a HDD.

    I think it is just a shortcut to the filesystem.  You can R click the >>>> icon and find out about its properties.

    The "Basic" tab reveals:
     Name:        Filesystem root
     Type:        Folder (inode/directory)
     Contents    xxx,xxx items, totalling yy.y GB
            (some contents unreadable)
     Volume:    unknown

    Then, some stuff about disk usage, culminating with
    Filesystem type: ext3/ext4

    The "Permissions" tab tells me that
     The permissions of "/" could not be determined.

    Unfortunately, there isn't a tab labelled "Origin" or anything
    even close to it.


    It could be like the picture here.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/1260097/why-do-i-have-filesystem-root-logo-in-desktop-after-instalation-of-ubuntu-18-0

    Yeah; I saw that screenshot, but no one answered his qx :-)

    I dl/ed, hashchecked, authenticated, an UbGn 18.04.5 and wrote it to a multiboot Yumi stick and booted it to see if I could figure out a route
    to that icon that would be accidental.

    Wow! That's a lot of work. (Or at least it sounds that way to me.)
    Thanks for taking the time.

    So, a 'filesystem root' shortcut would be a useful addition to the
    desktop, to save a step if one wanted to navigate graphically to the
    various root filesystem dir/s.  I do that all the time, but I generally
    use the access to the filesystem in Cinnamon DE Nemo L pane.

    Well, I'm a CLI kind of a guy. I don't ever "navigate graphically"
    except when I'm opening something in one of the LibreOffice programs.

    I don't know why Gnome would want to default 'hide' easy access to the filesystem in Nautilus; that seems strange to me.

    Considering it's the root, discouraging casual access to it sounds like
    a good way to make it a little harder for people to hurt themselves:

    <https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Blinkenlights-original.png>

    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    Galatians 3:28

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  • From Mike Easter@21:1/5 to Michael F. Stemper on Mon Aug 16 12:44:57 2021
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:

    I dl/ed, hashchecked, authenticated, an UbGn 18.04.5 and wrote it to a
    multiboot Yumi stick and booted it to see if I could figure out a
    route to that icon that would be accidental.

    Wow! That's a lot of work. (Or at least it sounds that way to me.)
    Thanks for taking the time.

    Actually, I tho't I already had an 18.04 and I would see what happened
    if I updated it; but since I didn't have one, the most convenient access
    to dl was to the 18.04.5, so I didn't get to update; I was thinking
    maybe something in the update process created your icon.

    Well, I'm a CLI kind of a guy. I don't ever "navigate graphically"
    except when I'm opening something in one of the LibreOffice programs.

    I don't know why Gnome would want to default 'hide' easy access to the
    filesystem in Nautilus; that seems strange to me.

    Considering it's the root, discouraging casual access to it sounds like
    a good way to make it a little harder for people to hurt themselves:

    I don't think one is going to hurt themselves roaming around w/ a
    graphical file manager.

    Command lines are perhaps more dangerous, depending :-)


    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Mike Easter@21:1/5 to Mike Easter on Mon Aug 16 12:54:52 2021
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Command lines are perhaps more dangerous, depending :-)

    An example of the type of platform OS I frequently use is one of an Ub
    based Mint Cinnamon as a live boot w/ persistence which I may use for
    many weeks at a time; functioning just like an install.

    The default mode has no pass for the user/sudo and there are all kinds
    of commands that need to be run in sudo mode.

    Making a sudo mistake can lose weeks of operational OS.

    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Mike Easter@21:1/5 to Mike Easter on Mon Aug 16 12:40:33 2021
    Mike Easter wrote:
    I don't know why Gnome would want to default 'hide' easy access to the filesystem in Nautilus; that seems strange to me

    Aha. I figured out how to add the root filesystem to the L pane in
    Nautilus w/ the 'bookmark' function. That's not so bad.

    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Michael F. Stemper@21:1/5 to Michael F. Stemper on Tue Aug 17 11:58:11 2021
    On 16/08/2021 13.14, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 11.55, Aragorn wrote:
    On 16.08.2021 at 11:33, Michael F. Stemper scribbled:

    I haven't deleted it because I have no idea whether doing so
    would just delete the icon, or whether it would delete the
    root filesystem.

    An unprivileged user does not have the power to delete the root
    filesystem.

    Yeah, I guess that it'd have to ask me for my password to sudo that
    action, wouldn't it? I'll think about this overnight, so that I can
    convince myself.

    All right, I decided that it would be safe to delete this
    mystery icon. Unfortunately, when I right-clicked on it,
    I got a context menu as follows:
    Open
    Open in New Tab
    Open in New Window
    Open With Other Application
    Unmount
    (Cut)
    (Copy)
    (Move to...)
    (Copy to...)
    Resize Icon...
    (Rename...)
    Open in Terminal
    Send to...
    Properties

    (Items in parentheses are grayed out.)

    No option to delete the icon there. I also tried clicking on it and
    then using the Delete key while it was highlighted. That had no
    effect.

    What does one need to do to delete an icon?

    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    If it isn't running programs and it isn't fusing atoms, it's just
    bending space.

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  • From Jonathan N. Little@21:1/5 to Michael F. Stemper on Tue Aug 17 17:25:35 2021
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 13.14, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 11.55, Aragorn wrote:
    On 16.08.2021 at 11:33, Michael F. Stemper scribbled:

    I haven't deleted it because I have no idea whether doing so
    would just delete the icon, or whether it would delete the
    root filesystem.

    An unprivileged user does not have the power to delete the root
    filesystem.

    Yeah, I guess that it'd have to ask me for my password to sudo that
    action, wouldn't it? I'll think about this overnight, so that I can
    convince myself.

    All right, I decided that it would be safe to delete this
    mystery icon. Unfortunately, when I right-clicked on it,
    I got a context menu as follows:
      Open
      Open in New Tab
      Open in New Window
      Open With Other Application
      Unmount
      (Cut)
      (Copy)
      (Move to...)
      (Copy to...)
      Resize Icon...
      (Rename...)
      Open in Terminal
      Send to...
      Properties

    (Items in parentheses are grayed out.)

    No option to delete the icon there. I also tried clicking on it and
    then using the Delete key while it was highlighted. That had no
    effect.

    What does one need to do to delete an icon?

    Open a terminal

    cd Desktop

    ls -la and get the filename of the file

    unlink whatever.desktop

    Frankly I have gotten fed up with GNOME striping out almost all of
    Nautilus's functionality and switched to Nemo.

    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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  • From Michael F. Stemper@21:1/5 to Jonathan N. Little on Wed Aug 18 08:19:59 2021
    On 17/08/2021 16.25, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 13.14, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 11.55, Aragorn wrote:
    On 16.08.2021 at 11:33, Michael F. Stemper scribbled:

    I haven't deleted it because I have no idea whether doing so
    would just delete the icon, or whether it would delete the
    root filesystem.

    An unprivileged user does not have the power to delete the root
    filesystem.

    Yeah, I guess that it'd have to ask me for my password to sudo that
    action, wouldn't it? I'll think about this overnight, so that I can
    convince myself.

    All right, I decided that it would be safe to delete this
    mystery icon. Unfortunately, when I right-clicked on it,
    I got a context menu as follows:


    No option to delete the icon there. I also tried clicking on it and
    then using the Delete key while it was highlighted. That had no
    effect.

    What does one need to do to delete an icon?

    Open a terminal

    cd Desktop

    ls -la and get the filename of the fil

    The fact that this doesn't have a corresponding file in $HOME/Desktop
    has disappeared along the way.

    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
    Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.

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  • From Mike Easter@21:1/5 to Jonathan N. Little on Wed Aug 18 08:55:26 2021
    Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Frankly I have gotten fed up with GNOME striping out almost all of
    Nautilus's functionality and switched to Nemo.

    Of the DEs Cinnamon, XFCE, Mate, KDE, (some WMs), and Gnome, I like
    gnome the least; mostly because it is comparatively 'bloated' in terms
    of resource usage and secondarily because it doesn't provide 'suitable'
    access to its features.

    I should probably use it more and get to know Gnome Tweaks or such.

    The prize winner in that group in terms of accessing its features
    coupled w/ resource 'economy' or efficiency is KDE. It is about the
    same resource-wise as Mate & XFCE but stronger in terms of 'simple'
    accessing of features.

    Still, my everyday driver is Cinnamon, but it isn't as lean as modern KDE.

    I suppose these remarks might start a DE war :-)

    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Mike Easter on Wed Aug 18 10:12:58 2021
    On 8/18/21 08:55, Mike Easter wrote:
    Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Frankly I have gotten fed up with GNOME striping out almost all of
    Nautilus's functionality and switched to Nemo.

    Of the DEs Cinnamon, XFCE, Mate, KDE, (some WMs), and Gnome, I like
    gnome the least; mostly because it is comparatively 'bloated' in terms
    of resource usage and secondarily because it doesn't provide 'suitable' access to its features.

    I should probably use it more and get to know Gnome Tweaks or such.

    The prize winner in that group in terms of accessing its features
    coupled w/ resource 'economy' or efficiency is KDE.  It is about the
    same resource-wise as Mate & XFCE but stronger in terms of 'simple'
    accessing of features.

    Still, my everyday driver is Cinnamon, but it isn't as lean as modern KDE.

    I suppose these remarks might start a DE war :-)

    Everyone is free to use whatever DE they prefer within that distribution. I used old Gnome 2.4 with Mandriva years ago then went
    back to KDE then at 3.8 or something like that. Now I am using KDE's
    Plasma 5 and maybe Plasma 6 next year.

    bliss - boots & runs a Pretty Cool Linux Operating System aka pclinuxos.

    PCLinux forum <https://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php> a rolling distribution with updates every time you turn around,

    --
    bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

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